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To not help my neighbor

344 replies

boxonthehill · 12/09/2021 09:35

My neighbour is elderly (I'm positively youthful at 40). I moved in just before lockdown and we've got quite close - I take her meals and get a bit of shopping in and since lockdown has ended she's been coming in once a week for her tea and to watch eastenders. She's quite hard work but sweet enough and I'm not working at the moment due to ill health so it makes me feel like I'm useful in some way. All good so far.

She's got 2 adult sons and a daughter who live in different parts of town about 15 minutes away. They all work full time but all drive including her son in law. The boys wives don't drive, one works and one is a SAHM with 2 kids at school and near a bus route.

So... neighbour has been taken in to hospital with heart problems and they discovered she has blood clots. They've told her she needs to be injected every day at home. They won't send someone out and although they could do it for her in hospital she'd have to travel in every day for this (40 minute bus drive).

She's asked me to do it and says im the only one - children won't because they're too busy.

I feel really uncomfortable with this. To begin with I had very unsteady hands. Can hold a pen and knife and fork etc but couldn't thread a needle or accurately use tweezers. I have no medical training (although they say this isn't needed at all). Im quite squeamish (I know that's a silly reason).

I suppose overall I feel like it's too much pressure. If I got it wrong I'd feel terrible. I feel like I have no business injecting this elderly woman whom I'm no relation to! It all feels really wrong somehow. I think the children (I say children, they're all 30s/40s) should make a rota and do it themselves.

Am I unreasonable to say no? My second worry is that she'll ask me to accompany her on the bus to the hospital each day which I also don't want to do because of my own health problems that she's not aware of.

How do I handle this?!

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Goshitstricky · 12/09/2021 10:29

You sound lovely and you've obviously been a big supporter to her recently, however I can't stress enough how easy it is to find yourself as her carer without even realising before you have hospitals/drs/social workers contacting you about her.
I work on social care and see it over and over, a neighbour who has been friendly and supportive being drawn in to becoming official carers.
She has family that either must help or arrange a suitable alternative.

I would be firm but kind and state your boundaries, you're happy to have her in for tea etc but you will not be taking on any medical responsibilities.

boxonthehill · 12/09/2021 10:29

@Howshouldibehave

It was on a text so I said "what with my shaky hands?!" Thinking that would remind her that I'm not the person for the job. But she came back and said that she'd asked the kids, they'd said too busy, she couldn't travel to hospital every day and I was the only one. I haven't replied to that text

When did she send it? Please reply NOW saying you can’t. Don’t leave it a minute longer with her assuming you’ll do it.

‘That’s a shame that not one of them is able to help, but that’s not something I will be able to commit to.’

Right, I'm on it! Wanted to get a sense of if I was being a cow but apparently I'm not so I'll message her now
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Gingernaut · 12/09/2021 10:31

Isn't this a job for the district nurses?

Where I live, this is the sort of thing they do, along with insulin injections and catheter checks.

Howshouldibehave · 12/09/2021 10:31

Right, I'm on it! Wanted to get a sense of if I was being a cow but apparently I'm not so I'll message her now

Good for you-you are definitely not being a cow!

The thing is with regular commitments like this is you will end up being pushed into a carer role, which rather than being something people are grateful for, becomes expected. Then, it’s very difficult to step back from.

DowntonCrabby · 12/09/2021 10:33

You are not being at all unreasonable, her family need to pull their socks up. Poor lady.

Kiitos · 12/09/2021 10:35

@fuckoffImcounting

You will be on a slippery slope to being her carer if her DC know you will step in.
Exactly this
boxonthehill · 12/09/2021 10:35

The other problem is I do hope to get back to work in the next 18 months or so. I know the injections won't be going on that long but as pp have said, if I'm dragged in to a carer role it will be hard to step back.

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SpiderinaWingMirror · 12/09/2021 10:36

Say no. Else before you know it, you will be like my lovely neighbours who ended up sitting next to very elderly neighbour, watching her pass away whilst her kids were "too busy". Mind you, they were rubbish at saying no generally and would be at the door for hours with salesmen. And in deed JW.

ImFree2doasiwant · 12/09/2021 10:37

There's no reason she can't do this herself. Thousands of people do, every day! Shaky hands aren't really relevant (hers I mean) when it cones to injecting into a fatty area surely? I didn't like doing it, but needs must.

PolytheneRam · 12/09/2021 10:38

Why can't she do it herself?

OrtolanVeil · 12/09/2021 10:39

3 adult kids 15 mins away? They are going to have to get used to finding time for her tbh. Even if they just do once a fortnight each that'd surely help. Unless it has to be at a specific and inconvenient time each day? (Still think you are absolutely right not to do it, op).

boxonthehill · 12/09/2021 10:40

I don't know about timings for the injections. I'd kind of assumed that kind of thing would be at a similar time each day but I don't actually know.

I've sent the text!

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mouse70 · 12/09/2021 10:41

No do not do this. One step too far.

ZenNudist · 12/09/2021 10:42

Good for you. What did you say?

It gets on my nerves when people are so selfish they would rather let a neighbour do caring responsibilities

Marmelace · 12/09/2021 10:45

Ffs not everyone can inject themselves, I have neuropathy and when it flares I am unable to use my hands hence my son has to administer my jabs. And for op you shouldn't have to do this, totally unfair to put the responsibility onto you. They will send someone to do it for her if no one else can. Has she been assessed for other needs to keep her living at home? You are a wonderful person ❤

PyjamaFan · 12/09/2021 10:46

YANBU at all. I wouldn't agree to this either. And asking you to do something every day is far too much for a neighbour.

nokidshere · 12/09/2021 10:46

Kids are at school 8.45-3.30. That leaves a lot of ‘day’! How sad that her grown children couldn’t rally round to pop round to their mum after work/school each day on a rota.

My almost 80yr old mother has 3 children, 8 grandchildren and 6 great grandchildren all living within 10 minutes of her (I'm not one of them). They don't see her because of problems of her (mums) own making and they wouldn't do this either.

Just because someone is old doesn't mean they have been a nice person in their lives and her children might have very good reason for not seeing her.

And given the amount of times people on here are advised to go 'no contact' there will be lots of other people in the same boat.

OP someone from the surgery should be able to go to her house and do it.

Loudestcat14 · 12/09/2021 10:46

OP, if her family are too busy and a community nurse can't come out daily, she and her family will have to cover the cost of a private nurse/carer to come in. They must realise how unreasonable it is to pass the responsibility to administer a medical procedure on to a neighbour, so stick to your guns.

diddl · 12/09/2021 10:47

I don't blame you for saying no Op.

Equally, no matter how easy they are to administer, I don't see why her kids or their spouses should have to do it either.

If she can't do it herself, there should be provision imo without her having to look to family/neighbours.

ShingleBeach · 12/09/2021 10:50

Just be very clear.

“So sorry you are ill. Just to let you know I really won’t be able to take on helping with the injections. I don’t feel comfortable being involved in anything to do with medication. Also due to my own health issues I can’t commit to any regular support. I want to be clear so that other suitable support can be put in place if needed. Looking forward to you being able to come home, xx”

Totally ridiculous that you are off work due to health but would use energy on bus rides if 40 mins each way to support someone else’s health needs.

boxonthehill · 12/09/2021 10:52

I said "these injections are playing on my mind as I really can't do them - my shaky hands plus feel too nervous. Make sure they know at the hospital you don't have anyone and insist on a nurse to come"

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boxonthehill · 12/09/2021 10:52

I did also say around that but that I hope she feels better soon, thinking of her etc!

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boxonthehill · 12/09/2021 10:54

@nokidshere

Kids are at school 8.45-3.30. That leaves a lot of ‘day’! How sad that her grown children couldn’t rally round to pop round to their mum after work/school each day on a rota.

My almost 80yr old mother has 3 children, 8 grandchildren and 6 great grandchildren all living within 10 minutes of her (I'm not one of them). They don't see her because of problems of her (mums) own making and they wouldn't do this either.

Just because someone is old doesn't mean they have been a nice person in their lives and her children might have very good reason for not seeing her.

And given the amount of times people on here are advised to go 'no contact' there will be lots of other people in the same boat.

OP someone from the surgery should be able to go to her house and do it.

Yes I suppose you never know all the ins and outs.
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blueskytoday06 · 12/09/2021 10:54

Probably less about the injection and more about seeing someone every day.

Oldraver · 12/09/2021 10:54

You only have her word that she had asked her kids, there was a touch if emotional blackmail in her text so that would immediately put me in 'don't trust their word' territory

She probably had it in her head you will do it and she doesn't have to bother her 'too busy' family

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