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AIBU?

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To think that he should just take his key with him, and that him being locked out is not my fault?

182 replies

PODSNAPPERER · 06/09/2021 21:03

I have a lodger.

Said lodger is a bit odd about taking things with him when he leaves the house, such as his phone, his keys, a shopping list, anything.

I work nights (from home) and as such am often asleep at odd times during the day when most people are up.

Some time ago I was asleep, lodger went out, I got up and also went out. When I got back he said he had to walk to my Mum's to get her spare key because I'd locked him out, and that he didn't know I was going out so hadn't taken his key. I said 'But you didn't know I was staying in either, so why wouldn't you have your key with you?'

If he goes shopping he often comes back without things as he couldn't find them. We do our own shopping separately as a rule but now and again will offer to pick up things for the other. In the past he's brought me sweet chilli sauce instead of hot chilli sauce, and a bag of lettuce instead of a bag of stir fry because he didn't take his glasses with him so couldn't see what the label said.

When I asked why he wouldn't take his glasses shopping he said because he knows where all his own things are and what they look like so it isn't usually a problem. He says things as to why he doesn't take his phone and keys like 'no pockets in summer' (!).

I've often rang him when he's gone out, for whatever reason and he's not got his 'phone. Odd, but fair enough, up to him however he will then complain if I've tried to ring/message him to say 'I'm going x do you want anything' or 'I'm going to the pub/event/whatever do you want to come?' and he's missed the message.

Anyway today I start work at 20:15.
I woke at 1900 from my nap and decided to go for a quick run, having not been able to earlier because It's so hot.

Lodger is out with the dog (she's my dog but he walks her often just because he likes to, fine).

I get back at about 19:40, and lock the door behind me as I am going in the shower. Lodger still not back.

When I go back downstairs he's in and he's LIVID with me. I also have a message on my phone to the lines of 'Why the fuck did I lock the door, he's had to go all the way to my Mum's for her spare key and he was already hot and bothered and had been out longer than he wanted and I shouldn't have locked the door etc etc'

I ignored the msg and said 'Lodger, if you go out, you take your key with you, it is not my fault if you choose not to.' I also reminded him that if we're both in and I go out for a run, I always ask do I need my key-It's nicer to not have to carry my key, sure but if I need it, if he may go out, I'll take it, we have to be responsible for these things.

'You only think of yourself! You don't think of anyone else! You knew I was out so you should have waited until I get back!'

'I didn't know you didn't have your key. You're a grown man, I am not responsible for your locking yourself out.'

'You're selfish! I never take my key!'

'You should! Adults have house keys for a reason! I couldn't have waited, I had limited time before starting work. You need to take your key with you if you're going out'.

'Well I never will!'
'Stop whinging then!'

AIBU?

Happy to be told so, honestly I just cannot get my head around him thinking it is a good idea to go out without one?

And he absolutely had his pockets in his trousers. He should have locked the door while leaving the house anyway, IMO as I was in bed and anyone could have walked in.

Let me have it MN. :)

OP posts:
timeisnotaline · 06/09/2021 22:50

Huh??? Hey lodger, here’s the deal. You have a key, you should expect to need it to get in the house every single time you go out unless we have had an explicit conversation otherwise. I’m not your concierge. You have a phone, if you miss a message or call because you don’t have it with you that is the choice you made and I’m not responsibke.

Bloody hell.

Igmum · 06/09/2021 22:53

YANBU. But if he's normally fine and a decent lodger I'd get a key safe fitted. Very useful generally and should solve this issue

Dixiechickonhols · 06/09/2021 22:57

If you otherwise get on well can you say to him you are annoyed by keys. You’ll be taking spare key off mum and he needs to take his key. Buy him a man bag for Xmas.

Boatonthehorizon · 06/09/2021 23:03

Key safe on an elastic spring? Would he remember the combination?

ElizabethTudor · 06/09/2021 23:03

he had gone out leaving me in bed (back bedroom, upstairs) and the house unlocked

Why the fuck did I lock the door?

Going out and leaving the door unlocked, and the tone of his message to you, are both unacceptable.
YA definitely NBU.

I’d be having serious words with him.
Take a fucking key with you, or fuck off.

Kite22 · 06/09/2021 23:04

@Elieza

Buy a bit of string. Or ribbon or thonging. Whatever.

Present to the lodger with the comment “tie this to your key securely and hang it round you neck when you go out so you can’t lose it. You do not need pockets.

Do not go out again without locking the door behind you whether I am in or out.

My insurance is invalidated if the door is unlocked. Whether I am in or out. If you cannot do this I will have to ask you to leave”.

Next time he does it he’s out on his ear.

This ^

Obviously I'd have no sympathy with any adult who chooses to leave the house without a key then being locked out, but the bigger issue here is that he is leaving your home unlocked when you are out, or when you are asleep (in truth, even if you are in the house and awake, most of us don't leave our doors open).
Anyone can get locked out on a rare occasion when having a bad day, but that isn't what is happening here. Your lodger is choosing to leave your house insecure.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 06/09/2021 23:08

How did he lock the door on his way out if he didn't take his key?

Regardless he sounds an absolute twat give him his notice.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 06/09/2021 23:11

And you didn't chuck him out for leaving your home insecure and your personal safety at risk?

Are you a doormat?

AttaGirrrrl · 06/09/2021 23:15

100% YANBU! This has got to be a first?

To think that he should just take his key with him, and that him being locked out is not my fault?
FibroidFanny · 06/09/2021 23:17

Not really, it happens from time to time

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/09/2021 23:19

Can’t believe the cheek of him!

It’s your house and he is your lodger. He doesn’t get to make rules for you, or have a go at you. You set the house rules for him.

He needs to be told in no uncertain terms to take his key with him every single time. Next time he fails to do so, he’s out on his ear (i probably wouldn’t give him that one chance tbh!)

Leaving the house unlocked is dangerous . And having a go at you is bizarre.

memberofthewedding · 06/09/2021 23:20

How does he lock the door after himself if he does not have a key?

MrsMcGarry · 06/09/2021 23:24

So you are totally not being unreasonable. But if you want to find a solution rather than Chuck him out because he won’t change, get a key safe. He can pay for it.

You can then leave a spare key in the safe that only you both know the code to, and always have the door locked

paisley256 · 06/09/2021 23:27

It sounds like he wants you to be his mum

SeriouslyISuppose · 06/09/2021 23:38

Regardless of his inability to put a key in his pocket, why on earth does he think it’s remotely acceptable to swear at his landlady like that?

Darbysmama · 06/09/2021 23:40

@memberofthewedding typically you can twist the lock knob on the inside of the door, then simply shut it behind you as you leave.

LivingOnAnIsland · 06/09/2021 23:43

a bag of lettuce instead of a bag of stir fry because he didn't take his glasses with him so couldn't see what the label said

had me sniggering into my cocoa

Nat6999 · 06/09/2021 23:47

Put his key on a long string & make him wear it round his neck or on a long chain attached to his bag Roy Cropper style.

Vitcserum · 06/09/2021 23:51

1000% not being unreasonable!!
He needs to buy himself a bum bag… there’s loads of them in stores at the moment - they’re all the rage!

ClemDanFango · 06/09/2021 23:53

He sounds like an entitled absolute fucking twat. If he wants a mummy he needs to bugger off back home to his mummy.

BlackberrySky · 06/09/2021 23:54

Good grief, my ten year old is capable of taking his own key with him. You are living with an utter arse. Get rid.

Topseyt · 07/09/2021 00:28

I just couldn't be arsed with this shit at all and would be giving him notice to leave. He doesn't respect your house and your property.

BudrosBudrosGalli · 07/09/2021 02:51

If a lodger spoke to me this way, they'd be kicked out. Zero tolerance for such an entitled and shitty attitude.

Bogeyes · 07/09/2021 03:56

Your lodger thinks you are his mummy

OurMamInHavianas · 07/09/2021 04:09

Nothing about this is normal.
Not taking a key.
Expecting you and your mother to pick up the slack.
Leaving the house unlocked.
Buying the wrong stuff for you at the supermarket because he “didn’t take his glasses”.
The angry messages when you don’t pander to his incompetence.

It sounds like an abusive relationship. And he’s only your lodger.

Do you really need his money? Or can you find a better lodger?