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Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum · 26/08/2021 13:04

I made a thread a couple of weeks back about me visiting the butcher in a supermarket near me and the young guy serving me saying that to his colleague in his local language (I live abroad)
He assumed I was on holiday and didn’t understand the language, I did. I was with my toddler daughter and was so humiliated and upset, I cried in the car on the way home.
Later, I sent a complaint to the head of the shop. They’ve now got back to me properly. Apparently they were able to discover who it was by speaking to other staff and he admitted it and was reprimanded, which resulted in him being fired and is now finishing his contract, so is still there legally.
I feel angry still that he was able to make me feel that humiliated, I was worried I’d possibly misheard part of it or got it wrong. Now he’s admitted it, I’m glad he’s lost his job and someone who deserves it can fill his place.
Do you think the supermarket did enough? It’s unlikely I’ll go back, which is a shame as it’s the main supermarket for special bits where we are.

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MissMaple82 · 26/08/2021 13:13

I think they have done more than enough. I would of thought a written warning would of been acceptable. I suspect he was probably mortified once he found out you speak the language and understood every word. He's an idiot but you need to get over it and move on

Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum · 26/08/2021 13:14

@BrimFullOfAsher I’m not judging them, you’re right, there’s not really much they can do, I just don’t feel comfortable going back there, at least until he’s gone.

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Winemewhynot · 26/08/2021 13:15

What else would you have them do? Have him hung drawn and quartered?

A man lost his job over a silly comment made in jest not intended for your eyes and you’re still not happy? Confused

bruffin · 26/08/2021 13:15

Were you looking for compensation as well?

EverybodyIsInteresting · 26/08/2021 13:15

you’re right, there’s not really much they can do

Firing him isn't 'much'?.

What would be enough for you?

Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum · 26/08/2021 13:15

@MissMaple82 I don’t think a written warning would have been acceptable, not the way he was, deliberately laughing and thinking he was funny. It was cruel, humiliating and uncalled for.

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MrsTulipTattsyrup · 26/08/2021 13:15

[quote Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum]@PermanentTemporary I guess I feel more upset that he definitely said it, I was hoping I was wrong. I feel upset still and crap about myself but also angry.
I know, there’s not much else they could do, I was checking really if this would be similar procedure in the U.K.[/quote]
I think in the UK the store would have sent you a letter of apology and a voucher, and the butcher would in all likelihood have kept his job.

Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum · 26/08/2021 13:16

@EverybodyIsInteresting Much more they can do I meant.

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pinganail · 26/08/2021 13:16

Did you think they might/should have offered you some gift vouchers to spend in store?

Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum · 26/08/2021 13:17

@Winemewhynot Read the original thread, it wasn’t that way at all.

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Balonzette · 26/08/2021 13:18

Do you think they have done enough?! He's lost his job! What more do you want - a prison sentence?

Not being harsh, and what he did was shitty, but losing your job is massively serious, life affecting and really severe punishment. Which he deserved but you know. It's enough.

AuntieMarys · 26/08/2021 13:18

Serves him right

Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum · 26/08/2021 13:18

@pinganail No, I think I want an apology if that makes sense or just to know why me, why he does that. I hope he understands that it’s humiliating and upsetting, I hope he gives a shit and doesn’t make someone else feel like that.

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EverybodyIsInteresting · 26/08/2021 13:19

My question still stands. You don't seem to think that's enough.

What would be enough for you?

What he did was dreadful, but he's lost his job because of it. You seem to still have issues with the store despite that being, imo, the absolute most they could have done. What else needs to be done to make you think the store has done enough?

AvonCallingBarksdale · 26/08/2021 13:19

Good grief. I haven’t read the other thread but what on earth else would you expect them to do Confused
I would have been tempted to call him out on it there and then too - but appreciate not everyone would feel able to.

girlmom21 · 26/08/2021 13:19

I can't believe you're glad he was fired. Yes it was a shitty thing to say/way to behave but Jesus, this is a mans livelihood.

A formal warning and maybe some additional training dependant on the size of the business would have been enough.

ChaToilLeam · 26/08/2021 13:19

Yes, they did enough. Try to put it behind you now. What more could they do, put his head on a stick behind the counter?

LivingDeadGirlUK · 26/08/2021 13:20

You did the right thing OP in reporting it. They have also done the right thing in firing him. They can't have staff who behave the way he did, even if he thought you would not understand he obviously didn't care about speaking that way in front of other staff and potentially other locals who would. Hopefully he's learned a valuable lesson.

Motnight · 26/08/2021 13:20

@StarryStarrySocks

What he said was unacceptable and he was rightly reprimanded. But I can't imagine being "glad" that someone had lost his job because of me.
StarryStarrySocks, the guy lost his job because he chose to make completely offensive remarks. Not because of Op.
Kidsdontknowwhatswrongwithmum · 26/08/2021 13:20

@Balonzette He was new and worked at other places, his colleagues identified who it was immediately. I imagine he has form for this. Remembering the way he was and the way he made me feel..deliberately..speaking loudly in front of me and laughing, I don’t feel sorry.

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essentialhealing · 26/08/2021 13:20

He's been fired and is also finishing his contract?

I would have thought that he would have left immediately if fired

Shirleyphallus · 26/08/2021 13:20

@StarryStarrySocks

What he said was unacceptable and he was rightly reprimanded. But I can't imagine being "glad" that someone had lost his job because of me.
I agree with this. I think firing him was unnecessary and a formal warning on file / disciplinary and apology would have been fine.
NCforsafety · 26/08/2021 13:21

@Winemewhynot

What else would you have them do? Have him hung drawn and quartered?

A man lost his job over a silly comment made in jest not intended for your eyes and you’re still not happy? Confused

This.

He made a shitty comment and in return you get him fired in a global pandemic where he probably won't find work again and you are glad.

Let's hope he hasn't got a family to support hey.

Samafe · 26/08/2021 13:21

@girlmom21

I can't believe you're glad he was fired. Yes it was a shitty thing to say/way to behave but Jesus, this is a mans livelihood.

A formal warning and maybe some additional training dependant on the size of the business would have been enough.

This.
DrSbaitso · 26/08/2021 13:22

They can't force him to apologise to you, it's not school. They can say that they won't accept it, which they have done by firing him.

I think you were very brave and got the best possible result from the company. If he decides to contact you himself to apologise, perhaps by asking them to pass the message on, then obviously that's brilliant, but they can't force it.

Give it a bit of time for him to disappear and then go back. And don't let a silly twat ruin your self esteem.