9st 12lb at 5’4” and size 4-6?

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Do they mean US size 6? The lady is in Wales.
I’m only 2 inches shorter and weigh 9st 6lb and wear size 10-12.
Well done to her for losing the weight though. Just confused by her clothing size.
uk.yahoo.com/news/22-stone-size-26-mum-060002422.html

Yeah of she's sporty that sounds about right, at 60kg doing 2 spin classes a day plus a competitive sport I was a size 6 at 5ft2.

I'm now getting back in to sport a lot more and I weigh 75kg I fit in to a 10-12. 10 is tight 12 is loose.

All depends on muscle.mass and how you are put together to be honest.

The Mail article about the Canadian woman is inconsistent:

Headline: Isabelle now weighs just 124lbs and has forged a new career as a nutrition coach
Text: In just ten months, Isabelle lost a whopping 80lbs and today weighs just 144lbs, fitting into a size two dress.

Well, which is it - 10 st 4 or 8 st 8? It doesn't really matter because there's no doubt she's at a healthy weight and she looks fantastic. But it indicates to me the numbers in the article, including the dress size, can probably be taken with a pinch of salt.

Not everyone needs skin removal and it doesn't look like she's had it
Her Instagram has a whole story about how she flew to the Dominican Republic for a tummy tuck and boob job. Which wasn’t mentioned in the news story. Misleading people who’ve dieted and are wondering why they don’t look like that.

@Blueleah "Exactly. At 144lb she can’t be a UK size 2. Or even a US size 2 which is a UK size 6. A 10 stone woman of average height is not going to be a UK size 6."

100% this.

But also for arguments sake. I'm the same height as this woman and a little but heavier.

I bought a size 8 top the other day. M&S so total vanity sizing and it's a stretchy fabric.

But it's a size 8 - which were the DF writing an article about me would of course have put "she's a size 8" and totally ignore the fact there's not a chance in hell I'd ever fit into a "real" size 8.

Chances are there are size 6s somewhere I could squeeze into even if it looked a hot mess.

I realise that doesn't make me a size 6 at all. But a shitty newspaper would ignore that fact.

@Blueleah

Not everyone needs skin removal and it doesn't look like she's had it Her Instagram has a whole story about how she flew to the Dominican Republic for a tummy tuck and boob job. Which wasn’t mentioned in the news story. Misleading people who’ve dieted and are wondering why they don’t look like that.

Fair enough. Interesting to know that a tummy tuck doesn't remove crepey skin after weight loss. To be fair, do people really think that dieting would make them look like someone else though? She's 23, has a beautiful body shape, and is extremely pretty. Most women know that losing weight isn't going to turn them into her, its just about being healthier and happier with yourself (if your weight stops you feeling this of course).

At 5 ft 4.5 ivv B weighed same as her and was a generous 10 and small 12 on bottom. But she might weigh less re bones etc

@Blueleah

Surely a quick glance in the mirror will make it less obvious No if you suffer from body dysmorphia, low self esteem, anorexia, bulimia, or a variety of other mental conditions. They’re saying she was a size 12 before. That makes a lot of size 12 women feel bad about themselves.

Newspapers shouldn't lie about these things, but I also don't think the media should be held responsible for people's mental illnesses. It's not the journalist's fault if you have body dysmorphia, anorexia, etc.

[quote wetpants]@5128gap She’s a hard taskmaster but following her does bring results. I started with her 20 min workouts and did those alone in the beginning.
Lifting weights give me the euphoria for the day which I never got when I tried to kill myself with cardio.[/quote]
Don't you have to buy a lot of weights though? I'd be scared of ending up like the poster who has weights at home, but never uses them.
I'm intrigued about weight lifting and euphoria though.

I think it was me with the weights.

I don’t get euphoria from physically lifting the weights, but I do fell good when I hit a new personal best.

For example, when I started, one goal was to deadlift 110 Kg. More than double my body weight. When I did, it gave me a mental, rather than physical high. A sense of achievement.

@Gwenhwyfar Argos have some very affordable dumbbells, you’d only need two different sets to start with. There’s also adjustable dumbbell sets which take very little floor space but they do cost quite a bit.

You could start without any dumbells though, just doing compound exercises at first will give you an excellent workout and will build muscle. If you’re a weakling like I was, lunges and squats are tough as it is without any added weights.

Also order a resistance band from Amazon and that too will keep you going until you’re sure you’ll be wanting to invest into dumbbells.

Thanks wetpans. I may give that Caroline a look.

Whole thing very wierd. I weighed 9st11 at the beginning of 2020 and at 5ft5, this put me at a size 12, felt that I was edging towards a 14 on my bottom half. I'm now 8st12 (8st11) occasionally and I'm just heading towards a size 10. My top half is small and I can even get in an 8 sometimes, but my bottom half is bigger. At 8st I was a isze 8/10, to be a 6, I would have to have been 7st and even then wouldn't have managed it cause of my hips.

At 8st I was a isze 8/10, to be a 6, I would have to have been 7st and even then wouldn't have managed it cause of my hips.

Yet I am an easy 6 on the bottom at 8st7 and only an inch taller. Unless I shop in Next or M&S, I couldn’t ever be a 4 because the circumference of my pelvis won’t allow it.

Proportions, frame size, and muscle mass all vary and you can’t really judge what is credible for somebody else based solely on what size you are at a given weight.

Genuine question. Why are so many people obsessed with proclaiming a particular clothing size as a badge of achievement?

Surely everyone knows clothing sizes are relative. They differ according to the stores. Some are vanity, some have changed over time as people have become more overweight.

I might be an 8, I might be a 10, I really don't care which. What I do know is that I am totally unbothered by whatever the size is as long as it fits.

In my 20s at my thinnest and fittest (running up and down mountains, climbing several times a week etc). I was 10st and size 8-10 at 5ft8.

Same here in my early 20s. I lost 7 stone in a year and weighed 10 stone 8lbs, I was a size 10 at 5ft7 and I was super fit and healthy. I doubt I’d ever be able to get any smaller than that really, I looked tiny.

Everyone has a different body shape so if you’re naturally more of a ‘boy shape’ you will inevitably be a smaller dress size than someone who is a pear or hourglass.

Unbelievably ( or maybe not in todays messed up sizing world) clothes I regularly wear vary from a size 10 to 20. I ha e some swing style coats that are loose fitting in a 10, some shirts from Matalan that I wear open with a long cami underneath in a 20 and everything else in between.
Mostly I buy 14 or 16.
However I dont care what size it us as long as it looks fab on me.

@Gennever

Genuine question. Why are so many people obsessed with proclaiming a particular clothing size as a badge of achievement?

Surely everyone knows clothing sizes are relative. They differ according to the stores. Some are vanity, some have changed over time as people have become more overweight.

I might be an 8, I might be a 10, I really don't care which. What I do know is that I am totally unbothered by whatever the size is as long as it fits.

Weird, isn’t it? But it’s why vanity sizing has become so prevalent I guess. My wardrobe contains every size between 10 and 16 and they all fit.

I think they’re both American sizes (in the headline) so the whole thing is…? It’s like how the DM often use dollars or Fahrenheit.

For example, it says online the average British woman is 5’5” (same height as this woman), 11 stone and a size 16 (yes, there is going to be a LOT of variety, but that’s average). So if you weigh 22 stone… that’s not a UK size 26. It’s maybe a 30-32? Rhetorically, people would not react well to a size larger than the 20’s. Anywhere in the 20’s, yes, she may be obese or even morbidly obese, but if you said she was above size 30, that would be “different.” Somehow less acceptable because it’s so much rarer. And size 6 just sounds smaller (they always seem to try to make it something less than 10 in these articles), but yes, definitely a US size because if 11 stone is a size 16 than 9.8 stone isn’t going to be a 6.
uk.fashionnetwork.com/news/Average-british-woman-is-5ft-5-weighs-11st-and-wears-size-16-according-to-report,805699.html

Gennever

Genuine question. Why are so many people obsessed with proclaiming a particular clothing size as a badge of achievement?

I don’t think I’ve ever proclaimed my clothes size (in real life). For the purpose of challenging the size proclaimed by the article I have mentioned it in this thread. The article itself is proclaiming it as a badge of achievement and a lot of posters have questioned it. I don’t think of it as an achievement. I’m not actively trying to lose weight. I just know what physical weight/size I was when I was able to fit into a size 8 and I was two stones lighter and two inches shorter than the “size 4-6” lady in the article. They really didn’t need to mention her clothes size, but people can more easily visualise a drop from size 22 to size 4-6 better than they can visualise a drop in terms of actual weight, so I am sure that is why they included it.

@Gennever

Genuine question. Why are so many people obsessed with proclaiming a particular clothing size as a badge of achievement?

Surely everyone knows clothing sizes are relative. They differ according to the stores. Some are vanity, some have changed over time as people have become more overweight.

I might be an 8, I might be a 10, I really don't care which. What I do know is that I am totally unbothered by whatever the size is as long as it fits.

You might not be bothered about being an 8 now, but if you were previously a 20 it might mean more to you. It's also a way (however flawed) of describing your size that is more meaningful than giving your weight, because weight without height doesn't mean anything.

To be fair it is a badge of achievement not to be overweight when a) most people are b) unless you’re genetically blessed it takes a great deal of effort not to be and c) the way we live etc is set up to make us fat-it’s almost inevitable that the majority will be, unless they pay close attention