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I'm not wrong to park here am I?

214 replies

figwine · 22/08/2021 21:20

I have a horrible steep driveway that I never use. Instead I park across its dropped kerb, therefore taking up no more space than if I parked on it. Opposite my house and my neighbour's, which both have drives, there is a row of 4 houses which have no drives, though the end two have garages behind them that are quite tricky to get to so they often park on 'my' side. Usually this is no problem as there's a house next to me on the corner that is side on and has its own drive round the corner, so along its side there is parking for about 4 cars before you get to my dropped kerb.

Nonetheless, sometimes I get home and someone is parked in 'my' space. Don't know who usually as I only know 2 of the cars opposite and 1 never parks in my space and the other does occasionally. So often I'm not sure who it is - may be nothing to do with the 4 houses or just a visitor. Next to my drive is my front garden along which 2 cars can park, so if the dropped kerb space is taken I go there - actually prefer it as slightly nearer my front door! I also park the other side of my dropped kerb, so not in front of my house, if I need to - if all 3 other places have gone. None of that is ever a problem and I'm at my dropped kerb about 80% of the time I'd say.

After those 2 spaces my neighbour's dropped kerb begins. It's a weird one as it's not a traditional vertical drive that goes down towards their house but instead it goes along the front so it's wider than it's long and not very deep. It has to be accessed sideways on. So because the dropped kerb is a lot longer than average, if there's nowhere else I park on the half of it nearest to my house, They have a sign in the window saying 'no parking' but I ignore that as it's not enforceable as far as I'm aware. Anyway, doing that has never caused a problem - though it's only an occasional thing anyway. As an additional complication they are often away and it's not unusual for days or even weeks to go by without me seeing their car at all.

Anyway, yesterday I got back from holiday and there were no spaces apart from one that was further down their dropped kerb than I would normally go. I went there because there was no other room and I didn't even know when they would be back. When I got in my car this morning there was a note asking me to move as 'it's a drive' - there was someone across my drive, which they must have seen, at that very moment, but that's just how it goes sometimes. I was also told they had to carry shopping down the street. Now they had parked in front of my house (a car had moved between me parking and them arriving) so they would have carried the shopping about 30 paces, which I quite often have to do.

WIBU to park there? I would only ever do it if no other option (I'm pretty sure I've done it before but moved before they got back), but should I leave their space empty when there is nowhere else? Surely it's first come first served in this situation?

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MordredsOrrery · 22/08/2021 22:13

YABU, along with all the other people who park over the dropped curb, for parking in over a dropped curb and in front of someone else's driveway.

YABU for caring about how you're supposed to get on your drive if someone else is parked in front of it but not giving a fig about how your neighbour is supposed to get on their drive when you've parked in front of it.

YABU for not really caring if YABU or not.

Y specifically and additionally ABU for no diagram.

That's a heck of a lot of unreasonable for one thread.

PuppyMonkey · 22/08/2021 22:14

Stop replying to posts and do a diagram

figwine · 22/08/2021 22:16

But you have started a culture of bad parking!

No, I haven't. People across the way have garages and don't use them. Another family has a very large drive, 3 cars and 1 is often parked on the road...I may be part of such a culture but I haven't started it and I didn't think it was a massive deal. I shrug and go elsewhere when mine is blocked and this very rarely involved my neighbour. I don't like signs, notes and awkward drives.

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BrilliantBetty · 22/08/2021 22:21

You shouldn't be parking over any dropped curb. Your neighbours or your own. Unless in an emergency situation.

At least you know now and can now sort out your drive / park on your driveway.

SleeplessWB · 22/08/2021 22:21

Doesn't everyone in towns park over their own dropped kerb? On our Victorian street most houses have room for one car on the drive and then park their other car / visitors' cars across their own dropped kerb - we wouldn't all fit on the road if we didn't!

Supertree · 22/08/2021 22:22

Yeah you shouldn’t park across their dropped kerb just because somebody has parked in front of yours. I park in front of my own all the time though. My neighbours have obviously realised we don’t use the drive so they also sometimes park across it but I don’t care because I don’t use the drive. I don’t understand why it’s a problem to park across the dropped kerb according to previous posters here? If we didn’t park there, other people would keep it clear so we’d take up extra room. The gradient between the road and our drive is so steep that the car drags along the ground, so nobody in a wheelchair is going to travel down there either. A neighbour had to have a sideways winding ramp put into it so that he could get from the road to the house in a wheelchair. I assume that the previous owners had a big SUV type car which was higher off the ground, but it’s unusable for any other type of car.

Viviennemary · 22/08/2021 22:22

You need to use your drive. Of course you cant park over somebody's dropped kerb.

bubblebath62636 · 22/08/2021 22:23

We have a drive, it's bloody awkward to get on and off but we use it because it makes sense.

Op use your drive stop being silly and using dropped kerbs etc.

Imnothereforthedrama · 22/08/2021 22:24

All I can say is I’m glad I don’t live on your street with all this parking across driveway and blocked curbs and also no diagram either .

AramintaLee · 22/08/2021 22:24

I don't have a drive and parking on my road is a nightmare as every neighbour seems to have more than once car (I often have to park three or four streets away at times and I don't think I've ever been able to park outside my own house) You are so lucky to have a drive and I would be livid if someone parked in front of it. My answer would not be to do the same thing to one of my neighbours because it is a dick move. I would be knocking on doors trying to find out who had parked there and got them to move so you can park on your own drive.

Imnothereforthedrama · 22/08/2021 22:25

Dropped kerb not blocked curb Grin

RubyFowler · 22/08/2021 22:27

Some drives are really terrible to use, especially if designed for cars which were much smaller than todays to be fair. And not everyone has the funds or potential to do anything about it. So I don't think its a problem that the OP parks over their own dropped kerb.
However it is unreasonable to park over the neighbours, who do use their driveway, but I think the OP has got that message now.

MordredsOrrery · 22/08/2021 22:27

I don’t understand why it’s a problem to park across the dropped kerb according to previous posters here?

Because dropped curbs provide a safe and level crossing point for pedestrians. This is especially important for people using wheelchairs, people who struggle with uneven ground/steps, people pushing buggies/prams, etc. They also provide a little extra visibility when checking for vehicles before crossing, which sounds extra important wherever OP lives since everybody apparently parks their car on the street rather than their drive.

figwine · 22/08/2021 22:29

I don't think a diagram would change anything - it's pretty unanimous and people would hate me even more for a shit diagram, which I would undoubtedly do.

The drive is so steep - you have to reverse on, which is fine normally and with other drives (before someone accuses me of not being able to reverse), but coming off it makes the clutch stink (someone told me that was the smell - like burning, sorry if that's wrong) and it's like sitting on a rollercoaster - I hate it. Also, the road is quite tight and if people park right up to the dropped kerb, which they do/did, it's so hard to get on or off it. Honestly, it's better if I'm on the road and it means I actually need less space. My house is a lot lower than the houses on the other side and than my neighbour's on the same side. I'm not sure how it could be levelled but I've no money to do anything like that anyway.

OP posts:
RainbowMum11 · 22/08/2021 22:29

Suspecting a bit of a reverse here, but will RTFT anyway

Lairymary · 22/08/2021 22:29

You seem to have set a precedent that your drive doesn't get used so to everyone else "it's ok to start to park across it as no one will mind" Learn how to park on your drive, I assume your are nervous of reversing on to the road on a slope?? (Without seeing a picture it's hard to see why you have an issue). Start reversing up(?) your drive when you get home so it's easier to leave. If it's a long one then park at the bottom so it's obvious that you are now using it and hopefully no one will be silly enough to block you. PLEASE use your drive, it's rather infuriating that you felt the need to post this when you are completely BU and have a perfectly useable driveway that a lot of folks would jump at the chance of owning. You're coming across as a bit lame.

Hercisback · 22/08/2021 22:29

Why don't you park on your drive?

Not using a garage is normal. Most garages wouldn't fit a modern car in.

Maddison12 · 22/08/2021 22:30

Alright, Jesus... 'outrageously disgusting...' slightly ott for the circumstances.

The irony of you saying this when you also said that you were 'shocked and shaking' at the fact you couldn't block someone's drive is really making me laugh🤣

Hercisback · 22/08/2021 22:31

Cross posts.

You need to learn how to drive on and off your drive without making the clutch stink.

lottiegarbanzo · 22/08/2021 22:32

I cannot bear this 'but I was inconvenienced, so that made it fine for me to inconvenience someone else, (even if I broke the law / rules / normal standards of behaviour)', false logic.

No it doesn't. No it didn't. You are not the exception.

You may not park across your neighbour's dropped curb, unless they say you can.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 22/08/2021 22:33

Having a drive (with a dropped kerb) gives you the privilege (assuming no miscreants) of always having access to it, across a section of the public road that would otherwise probably be available for anybody to park in, if your drive were not there.

I suppose part of the thinking is that, the more people have their own off-road parking, the more freely the traffic can flow, as instead of a car blocking that section of road for hours, days, weeks at a time, there will only be a car crossing it for 10 seconds at a time.

To be honest, if you never ever use your drive, and thus play your part in reducing the amount of vehicles blocking (parked on) the road, I don't see why your unrequired exclusive drive access should then become your exclusive parking space. Ideally, the kerb should be returned to normal height (unless strategically helpful for wheelchair users and pushchairs) and the space become another standard first-come-first-served parking space - for the use of you or any other motorist.

Percie · 22/08/2021 22:33

Sorry @hercisback but I have to know - Cabin Pressure reference?

Lairymary · 22/08/2021 22:33

Ah just seen your update. Still, just requires some patience and carefull manoeuvring and you will get used to it. Or just move house!!

Summerfun54321 · 22/08/2021 22:34

I got a parking ticket before for parking across my own dropped kerb when a housemate parked badly so I couldn’t park on the drive. It was 2am and I left a note on my windscreen saying why I’d parked like that and that I’d move it in the morning. Parking warden didn’t give a shit, I still got a ticket by the time I went to move my car the next day. Moral of the story, park where you’re meant to as no one cares about your explanation or reasoning.

Hercisback · 22/08/2021 22:34

@Percie Unintentionally but yes.

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