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I'm not wrong to park here am I?

214 replies

figwine · 22/08/2021 21:20

I have a horrible steep driveway that I never use. Instead I park across its dropped kerb, therefore taking up no more space than if I parked on it. Opposite my house and my neighbour's, which both have drives, there is a row of 4 houses which have no drives, though the end two have garages behind them that are quite tricky to get to so they often park on 'my' side. Usually this is no problem as there's a house next to me on the corner that is side on and has its own drive round the corner, so along its side there is parking for about 4 cars before you get to my dropped kerb.

Nonetheless, sometimes I get home and someone is parked in 'my' space. Don't know who usually as I only know 2 of the cars opposite and 1 never parks in my space and the other does occasionally. So often I'm not sure who it is - may be nothing to do with the 4 houses or just a visitor. Next to my drive is my front garden along which 2 cars can park, so if the dropped kerb space is taken I go there - actually prefer it as slightly nearer my front door! I also park the other side of my dropped kerb, so not in front of my house, if I need to - if all 3 other places have gone. None of that is ever a problem and I'm at my dropped kerb about 80% of the time I'd say.

After those 2 spaces my neighbour's dropped kerb begins. It's a weird one as it's not a traditional vertical drive that goes down towards their house but instead it goes along the front so it's wider than it's long and not very deep. It has to be accessed sideways on. So because the dropped kerb is a lot longer than average, if there's nowhere else I park on the half of it nearest to my house, They have a sign in the window saying 'no parking' but I ignore that as it's not enforceable as far as I'm aware. Anyway, doing that has never caused a problem - though it's only an occasional thing anyway. As an additional complication they are often away and it's not unusual for days or even weeks to go by without me seeing their car at all.

Anyway, yesterday I got back from holiday and there were no spaces apart from one that was further down their dropped kerb than I would normally go. I went there because there was no other room and I didn't even know when they would be back. When I got in my car this morning there was a note asking me to move as 'it's a drive' - there was someone across my drive, which they must have seen, at that very moment, but that's just how it goes sometimes. I was also told they had to carry shopping down the street. Now they had parked in front of my house (a car had moved between me parking and them arriving) so they would have carried the shopping about 30 paces, which I quite often have to do.

WIBU to park there? I would only ever do it if no other option (I'm pretty sure I've done it before but moved before they got back), but should I leave their space empty when there is nowhere else? Surely it's first come first served in this situation?

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Sliceofcherrypie · 22/08/2021 21:48

So if I get back and there is nowhere else to park I need to leave their whole dropped kerb free (about 2 car lengths) and drive around looking for another space - would be in another street. Despite there being quite a high chance they won't even be back for days?
Yes!!! No parking over dropped kerbs! Grin

User57327259 · 22/08/2021 21:49

OP have some manners. You should not block anyone in or out of their driveway.

You said your drive is too steep. You should try to think of a way to solve that and not block driveways of the neighbours

figwine · 22/08/2021 21:49

@Fiddliestofsticks

Stop parking across any part of your neighbours dropped kerb. It doesn't matter if they're in or not. Stop being a dick.

If you cant find a space then that's your problem. It is not your neighbours. They have a drive they are happy to use and you are making that regularly difficult and now you made it impossible for them to access their own land!

Stop doing it. Why do some people behave like such entitled, selfish treats.

Calm down - I don't think I'm a dick here and they can still access the drive when I park on the end closest to me - it's a long dropped kerb that isn't all needed to access it. Sorry, i should have made that clearer. Also, they don't always park on it and sometimes use the road, and they have two vehicles, though the second isn't often here (even less often than the first), but when it is they are taking up a lot of room as it's bigger than average.
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Fiddliestofsticks · 22/08/2021 21:50

@figwine

So if I get back and there is nowhere else to park I need to leave their whole dropped kerb free (about 2 car lengths) and drive around looking for another space - would be in another street. Despite there being quite a high chance they won't even be back for days?
Yes.

The council approved that dropped kerb. They put it in ti prevent anyone restricting access on or off that property.
You dont get to park there just because you dont want to walk.

You have your own drive. Use it. If someone has blocked it then you need to find an actual free space. You cannot just pass the problem on by blocking someone else's drive.

Do you really not see that? Your access is blocked and your solution is to block someone else. you're basically saying, "I am more important. I do not want to walk. I will park here and block their access to their drive and they can go and look for another space on another street, because I am just more important than they are."

MyDcAreMarvel · 22/08/2021 21:50

You can’t parked across your own dropped kerb either.

Nicknacky · 22/08/2021 21:50

Why are you in “shock, shaking”?

Yet you tell someone else to calm down….

mrsm43s · 22/08/2021 21:51

No, you shouldn't park over a dropped kerb, your own or anyone else's.

Just because someone else parked illegally over your dropped kerb, it doesn't give you the right to park illegally over another person's dropped kerb.

Your best bet would be to park on your drive - that it what it is there for. If someone is blocking your access, leave a note on their car (or go and speak to them in person if you know who they are), and park your car somewhere legal while you wait for the person obstructing access to your drive to move.

Lucyccfc68 · 22/08/2021 21:51

Of someone is blocking your drive, ask them to move and park on your own drive. It’s really not that difficult - don’t block someone else’s drive because you can’t be arsed parking on your own.

Smidge001 · 22/08/2021 21:51

@figwine

So if I get back and there is nowhere else to park I need to leave their whole dropped kerb free (about 2 car lengths) and drive around looking for another space - would be in another street. Despite there being quite a high chance they won't even be back for days?
Yes
Fiddliestofsticks · 22/08/2021 21:52

It doesn't matter if you think they can manage if you park over some of it.

You are making it more awkward for them to manoeuvre. They might be able to get past, but it will be harder.

You cannot park across any part of a dropped kerb

How old are you? Have you only just started driving? Because I dont understand why you find this so hard to understand?

JurassicPark101 · 22/08/2021 21:52

You shouldn’t park across someone’s dropped kerb even if you don’t think they’ll be back for days. Surely this is pretty basic stuff? The police won’t generally attend unless your car is preventing someone from leaving their drive but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to do it!

Would you park across anyone’s drive if you were in a road you didn’t know? Or is it just limited to your road? I thought it was just people being cheeky fuckers who park across my drive, I didn’t realise people actually thought it was totally acceptable!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 22/08/2021 21:53

I'm sure I've read on here several times that you can park across a dropped kerb as long as no one's parked on the drive

You CAN do it and the police can't technically do you for it if there's no car in the driveway, but it's an odd legal loophole that just about all reasonable people consider to be outrageously disgusting behaviour if you exploit it.

GinIronic · 22/08/2021 21:53

Sort your drive out so that you can use it.

FuzzyPuffling · 22/08/2021 21:53

I didn't vote as I lost the will to live before I got anywhere near the end of your essay.

HotToddyColdSauvignon · 22/08/2021 21:53

You’re in shock??Hmm

Also. Diagram?!

Also. Stop parking like a tw@t

HermioneKipper · 22/08/2021 21:54

Nope can’t park across any dropped kerb. What if they got back and wanted to park and you’re blocking their access? They’ve paid for a dropped kerb and you can’t block any part of it.

I don’t understand why you can’t just park on your own drive. Just get it sorted out

DuckDuckGooses · 22/08/2021 21:54

Can you get your driveway changed at all to make it easier to park on? I'd be annoyed if I happened to be your neighbour having my dropped kerb blocked when your drive is empty. Just because you're happy to park over your dropped kerb (so clearly others do the same) doesn't mean your neighbours feel the same SmileDefinitely isn't advised to ever park over a dropped kerb!

figwine · 22/08/2021 21:54

@SoundBar

YABU to have a drive and not use it. Parking on the kerb is an obstruction for pedestrians and traffic. Get it landscaped so it's level with the street and has steps down to the house.
I don't park on the kerb or pavement. I park next to the dropped kerb and don't block the pavement at all. I don't fully understand your second sentence but I'm pretty sure it can't be done/I can't afford it and anyway it wouldn't solve the obstructing the traffic issue as there would be the other 4 cars parked on the road after mine. It's not a busy street anyway.
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HermioneKipper · 22/08/2021 21:54

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

I'm sure I've read on here several times that you can park across a dropped kerb as long as no one's parked on the drive

You CAN do it and the police can't technically do you for it if there's no car in the driveway, but it's an odd legal loophole that just about all reasonable people consider to be outrageously disgusting behaviour if you exploit it.

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melj1213 · 22/08/2021 21:55

YABU

Stop parking over dropped kerbs, whether they are your own or anyone else's

dementedpixie · 22/08/2021 21:55

Rule 243

DO NOTstop or park:

  • near a school entrance
  • anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Service
  • sat or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
  • on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing
  • opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
  • near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
  • opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
  • where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
  • where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
  • in front of an entrance to a property
  • on a bend
  • where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities

*exceptwhen forced to do so by stationary traffic.

figwine · 22/08/2021 21:56

OddBoots

Well I couldn't use my drive if someone was parked across the entrance to it, could I?

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Mumontour85 · 22/08/2021 21:56

I thought dropped kerbs were fair game unless there are lines??
If parking there is not ok, no one can park at bottom of your driveway either... it may be a hassle but if there are no street spaces available then it's not like you're without an option to park somewhere.

Blindstupid · 22/08/2021 21:56

disney .. I assume your first sentence should be can’t? …. Also, you’re wrong, you actually can’t park across your own dropped kerb bizarrely 🤷🏼‍♀️

OP … from the Highway Code you must not park ‘where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles.
In front of an entrance to a property.’ You really need to learn to park on your own drive, it’s ridiculous that you can’t!

dementedpixie · 22/08/2021 21:56

@Disneycharacter

You can park across any dropped curb provided there is no car in the driveway as you are then obstructing the highway. ie the parked car can not access the road if it is in the driveway. It's super frowned upon though and you are likely to have a very irate neighbour or homeowner.

As it's your own driveway, of course you can park on your dropped curb. You are obstructing no one. Bit silly though to be scared of parking in your drive. Handbrake on and into gear. It won't roll anywhere.

I don't think this is true. You are also blocking wheelchair users from using the dropped kerb