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Regret having children?

371 replies

PumpkinKlNG · 15/08/2021 19:15

Is it ever ok to admit you regret having children? (Not to them of course) people say you never regret having a child but aibu to think that isn’t true?

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Graphista · 01/09/2021 11:58

I think it's more common than we realise and is largely due to patriarchal/societal pressure on women to have children

It's gradually becoming more socially accepted to be child free by choice, I have a few friends who've made this choice.

I also have a few who while they haven't said so I suspect don't particularly enjoy motherhood.

Giving up a baby for adoption is less socially acceptable in the Uk too I think. I think while we wouldn't want to go back to the bad old days of pressuring people into giving up babies for adoption we do need to pull it back from where it is at the moment

People can't help how they feel, and it's one of those experiences you don't really "get" until you're i. It so I suspect a number of people once they're parents are like "I never thought it'd be this hard"

I think also people don't have the support networks we used to and the experience with babies and young children before having our own children due to being in larger families etc

I'm the eldest of 3 my parents are the eldest of 5 and 6 each and my grandparents were each one of more than 10 dc

I grew up looking after little kids from a fairly young age and then was a babysitter and nanny before having dd so I had some idea of looking after children but being a parent is another step up.

Elkey · 01/09/2021 12:14

[quote LlamaTime]@Elkey I don't think it's "poor children" - you can love your children with all your heart and be the best parent to them whilst knowing that if you had your time again you wouldn't have any. It's poor mothers rather than poor children.[/quote]
No, there was a poster who wants to leave their child on the first page, and others who identified. It must be awful to feel that way, and I've never experienced it myself, but still, that's dreadfully sad for the children. I think my having sympathy for such children isn't wrong.

Elkey · 01/09/2021 12:15

@lookatmoiploise

Where did I shame women? Again, I don't think having sympathy for unwanted children is controversial.

georgarina · 01/09/2021 12:16

I've always wanted kids and a family. I've always loved the busy messy chaos of it. Besides always naturally wanting kids, two things played into it: I had a lot of hands-on experience looking after much younger siblings as a child/early teenager, which I loved, and I was taken away from my family as a teenager into a house with just one parent, and wasn't allowed to see my siblings for years, and the loneliness was crushing. I remember it being physically painful.

So besides naturally wanting kids, having a family in general has always been a blessing to me and better than the alternative.

I am also a single working parent with childcare and not a lot of support, so it's not 'easy.' But I didn't expect or want it to be.

LookAtMoiPloise · 01/09/2021 12:28

[quote Elkey]@lookatmoiploise

Where did I shame women? Again, I don't think having sympathy for unwanted children is controversial.[/quote]
Well all this 'poor poor children' stuff is obviously going to make those who have shared their feelings feel bad, isn't it? Hmm

CasaBonita · 01/09/2021 12:32

For the first 3 years I had profound feelings of regret. However, my son was a real handful.

As he's gotten older the feelings of regret have lessened and overall I'm glad I had him as the good times outweigh the bad.

But I do find myself thinking about how many years I have left until he is no longer reliant on me!

I also stopped at one child because I found the whole thing so very hard and had no desire to go back there again.

Gemzee · 01/09/2021 12:36

I find parenting hard, my sons 3. He is getting easier as time goes on though. I don't regret having him but I do miss my child free life that looking back was so so easy and fun.

MorriseysGladioli · 01/09/2021 12:37

Wanting a child doesn't automatically tie in with being a fabulous mother, so there is that..

mugcupwhatever · 01/09/2021 12:39

@LookAtMoiPloise why is it forbidden to make someone feel bad? People feel bad from time to time and sometimes rightly so.
If you have a child, you have to rise to the challenge and do your best. It's OK to say something is hard or harder than you expected, but regret is a strong statement and also a very sad one IMHO

MorriseysGladioli · 01/09/2021 12:42

It's actually ok to say whatever you want.
It cuts both ways.

cherrytree975 · 01/09/2021 12:48

I was on the fence about having children, but decided to go for it because I didn’t want to miss out on what is (in my opinion) one of the great life experiences. There have been huge highs and many lows but overall I’m very glad I did have a child and wouldn’t turn back time given the choice. If we hadn’t done it I know I’d always have been wondering “what if” and I couldn’t have lived like that.

LlamaTime · 01/09/2021 12:51

@MorriseysGladioli @Elkey Of course it's ok to say what you want, and also not wrong to have sympathy for the children - my point was rather than such sympathy is not needed. As long as the children don't know that the parents regret them and are loved and looked after, they are not missing anything compared to children who are not regretted, and so require no sympathy.

Posts on here vary in degree of regret - most seem to be along the lines of 'would not wish away my current DC, but regret having children in general and wouldn't if I had my life again'. This seems perfectly compatible with raising happy, loved children who aren't missing out and aren't the objects of sympathy.

Elkey · 01/09/2021 12:52

@lookatmoiploise

Still, sympathy for those children is what I felt and what I shared... on an online forum for discussion. Again, it's hardly controversial and I don't think I was cruel or insulting. A range of views is to be expected, and my view is that children whose mothers would like to walk out of their lives are deserving of sympathy.

EdgeOfACoin · 01/09/2021 12:54

There are constantly threads on Mumsnet about women who regret having children. Likewise, a quick Google search brings up lots of articles. For a 'taboo' subject it generates a lot of discussion.

Believe me, I received the message loud and clear - children wreck your body and your mental health, destroy your social life and wreak havoc on your career. They're boring and tedious as young children; nightmares as teenagers. I spent my entire twenties and most of my thirties definitely Not Having Children. I even looked into childfree forums online for a while, until I worked out that spending my time moaning about 'breeders' was not a particularly fulfilling way to spend a childfree existence.

However, it gets to a point where you recognise that soon it will no longer be your choice whether or not to have children, and delaying the decision becomes an active choice not to have them. DH and I spent a long time pondering the question. We finally decided to go for it, and I'm fortunate enough to be pregnant in my late thirties. There were lots of factors that swung my decision, including the fact that most people I know appear to like their kids and enjoy being around them, in spite of the hardships. And that having children is a long-term thing.

Maybe I am hopelessly naive, but honestly, I don't have a rose-tinted view of parenthood. The constant complaints from parents put me off the idea for many, many years. I'm surprised by the number of people on here who say they feel as though they have been misled about the miseries of parenthood.

Elkey · 01/09/2021 12:57

[quote LlamaTime]**@MorriseysGladioli* @Elkey* Of course it's ok to say what you want, and also not wrong to have sympathy for the children - my point was rather than such sympathy is not needed. As long as the children don't know that the parents regret them and are loved and looked after, they are not missing anything compared to children who are not regretted, and so require no sympathy.

Posts on here vary in degree of regret - most seem to be along the lines of 'would not wish away my current DC, but regret having children in general and wouldn't if I had my life again'. This seems perfectly compatible with raising happy, loved children who aren't missing out and aren't the objects of sympathy.[/quote]
Yeah, I mean the children of parents who would like to give them up. I find that sad and I feel sorry for the children. The children can be very lucky in other ways, but a loving mother who wouldn't want to be without you is pretty important. A loving dad too whilst we're at it, though not having that is very common and also very sad.

VanGoSunflowers · 01/09/2021 12:59

I love my DS but I do not love being a mum.
It’s a hard thing to admit because there isn’t much you can do about it after the fact! He is still a toddler though so praying for it to get easier!

WombatChocolate · 01/09/2021 13:04

I don’t think many of the parents who regret having chosen to have kids want to walk out on them.
It is possible to feel regret, but also love and to want to give your children the very best.
I think wanting to walk out on your children is a totally different area to regret. And not loving them is again something totally different.

Classica · 01/09/2021 13:06

There are constantly threads on Mumsnet about women who regret having children. Likewise, a quick Google search brings up lots of articles. For a 'taboo' subject it generates a lot of discussion.

Key point being that most of the discussion is under online anonymity. So yeah, it is taboo.

Elkey · 01/09/2021 13:07

@WombatChocolate

I don’t think many of the parents who regret having chosen to have kids want to walk out on them. It is possible to feel regret, but also love and to want to give your children the very best. I think wanting to walk out on your children is a totally different area to regret. And not loving them is again something totally different.
Agreed. I'm specifically feeling sympathy for the children of those who DO want to walk out on them.
yourdadsunclesfriend · 01/09/2021 13:12

I always tell me kids how much I despise them and how they ruined my body forever. In fact, I tried to sell them to get money for plastic surgery but they're so ugly and rat-looking nobody wanted them :( anyway, now I'm happily childless and rich! Doctors say by 20245 I will look 10 again! Enjoy your wine!!

mugcupwhatever · 01/09/2021 13:19

@Classica I think taboo is not the right word to use in this context. Taboo means something that's culturally or socially forbidden to do or to talk about..
I don't think its wrong to talk about feelings like this or any feelings at all, but to regret parenthood and to talk about it openly with your full name would seriously hurt the mental health of your child.
I believe most people struggling with this are probably good parents and would have the common sense to never let their child know their true feelings on the subject.

WombatChocolate · 01/09/2021 13:31

When people feel regret about having children, it’s often a generalised thing too, rather than about their specific children. They aren’t saying ‘I wish I had different children to the ones I had’.

People can yearn for their child free lives of before or find all kinds of aspects of parenting difficult or almost impossible. Quite often, this doesn’t relate to the specific child but the issue of being a parent and the responsibility and tasks that come with it. They can dislike and wish they hadn’t got into all this, whilst at the same time loving their children dearly.

Sometimes, it is the specific situation and specific children which makes parents regret being parents. Some children have such intensive needs or disabilities which will never reduce as the children become older, that every single aspect of life is taken over. People mention relationships breaking down and no life outside the home being possible. Regret might well be felt then.

Or is regret the right word? In this scenario, people can be resigned to the situation…totally worn down and ruined by it, but not regretting either their child or them being a parent.

It’s a funny one. It’s different to regretting eating a bar of chocolate, or spending money on a new house because the consequence of becoming a parent is another human being. Until they are there with their own little personality, we cannot imagine them or love or dislike them. Once they are there and you are a parent, there is no stopping being one. You can’t diet to lose the chocolate weight or sell the hosue you regretted. Being a parent is so final and forever….moreso I think for women. Very few women have left their children through choice and have zero contact now. More men seem to. So I think people don’t usually regret the individuals which now exist (unless you have Kevin….who has read We Need to Talk About Kevin) but it’s about themselves and the impact on themselves…which is clearly tied up with having had children.

amusedbush · 01/09/2021 13:35

My mum told me straight-up (and more than once, from a young age) that if she could go back in time, she would never have had children.

When I was a bit older, maybe 20, she told me that she only had me and my brother so that my dad wouldn't leave her because he desperately wanted kids. When I told her that I didn't want children she said, "good, it's shit".

Honestly, I didn't have a great childhood and was recently diagnosed in my 30s with an attachment disorder but her brutal honesty helped me make the decision that I don't want children. I'm neurodivergent and struggle to navigate life myself so I already worry that parenthood would overwhelm me. To be frank, there are times I wish I hadn't got my (much adored!) dog because of how trapped I am as a dog owner so the thought of having a child sends me into a tailspin.

I'd rather wake up at 50 regretting not having kids than have one now and spend the next 20 years feeling how my mum felt toward me.

Blahblah2muchinfo · 01/09/2021 14:04

Bit of a tangent but I'm confused why there are multiple people commenting who
A. Don't have DC or SDC
B. Claim to not want any DC/have never wanted any DC

Why are these people on Mumsnet? Am I missing something fundamental?

To answer the original question, I don't regret my DS at all. But I am happy to stop at one DC as I can see how I'd regret having more DC as it seems stressful and expensive.

Classica · 01/09/2021 14:05

Why are these people on Mumsnet? Am I missing something fundamental?

Clearly.