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Ex-MIL demanding “her” clothes back for DD

257 replies

TheyreOnlyClothes · 15/08/2021 13:07

Situation: Split with now ExH in 2017 due to his violence and control, share a 7yo DD.

Due to his own circumstances and DDs medical needs he has contact with DD at his parents, EOW for 1 night.

She obviously has clothes at both homes, and I’ve never been bothered about whats at Ex-Hs/Ex-PILs and whats here as long as she has enough of everything. Occasionally ExH will text me and ask me to send some extra leggings or tshirts or dresses etc. because he’s running short there, similarly I will text him. If she has a growth spurt we’ll both agree to buy things, so I might get dresses and tshirts and ExH will get leggings/trousers and jumpers (we both shop at different places so DD gets the chance to mix and match stuff depending on her mood). For each house we buy our own pants, socks and vests. Shoes go between houses but she does have things like wellies at both homes.

We didn’t get on as a couple, no matter what he did I’m not totally blameless so I am prepared to work at a co-parenting relationship, which I feel we have. We have both agreed that as long as she has clothes and toys at both homes things can move between them – both homes have a 1 in 1 out policy so if she brings something from ExHs to here, she takes something from here back to ExHs and vice versa.

Ex-MIL has sent me a long ranting text asking for all the clothes back shes bought for DD over the last few years, accused me of selling them to “profit from her son” and told me if I don’t hand them all over she is taking me to the small claims court for reimbursement before taking me to the family courts for full custody.

I’ve replied saying that when DD grows out of clothes both me and ExH sell the old ones to replace with new things, I have no idea which clothes she bought for DD as things go between homes but if DDs wardrobe there was running short of things I could sort out a bag of clothes to send with DD next time she’s there to keep there.

She’s replied “see you in court”

What I’ve replied is genuinely the truth, I have no idea who bought what clothes. There’s probably things I or my parents bought for DD at their house and the same with ExHs and Ex-PILs stuff here, I don’t care who bought it or where it is as long as DDs happy, clothed and got toys to play with. Similarly the other parents in DDs class swap things between us as some of the children can decide suddenly they love their friends jumper from none uniform day so we swap things around, so theres a chance that something ExH/Ex-PILs bought is actually being worn by one of the other girls in DDs class – I know for example there’s a jumper DD has and loves that was bought for her friend at school by her grandparents but she hated it so swapped it with DD for one she preferred I did buy the jumper she swapped though as I remember buying it (the school actually encourage this set up rather than clothes sitting unworn in wardrobes until they get thrown away).

So AIBU? And if she does take me to small claims will she win? I admit I sell old clothes on ebay and/or facebook to get some money back to get replacements and I maybe sell them before DD grows out of them fully so I can replace with a bigger size but I’ve never tried to profit from the arrangement. ExH pays maintenance but Ex-PILs think it’s too much so that’s the only reason I can think Ex-MIL is behaving like this.

OP posts:
GetTaeFuck · 15/08/2021 13:09

She’s a fucking idiot.

Ignore.

ThreeLittleDots · 15/08/2021 13:10

No judge would permit this idiocy in any court

timeisnotaline · 15/08/2021 13:10

Tell her good luck. She would need some acknowledgment they were never a gift. so she’d have to stand up and say I never ever gave my grandchild clothes, I only ever lent them and that should have been obvious despite not having said, texted, or emailed anything to that effect to my son’s ex partner.

But you might have to watch for her taking clothes you’ve bought your ds? Keep an eye on that one in one out policy.

Somanysocks · 15/08/2021 13:11

I would imagine she would get nowhere.

Oogachuckachopsy · 15/08/2021 13:11

Ignore it. If she wants to waste her money and take you to court, let her try. They’ll try to force mediation anyway and she’ll soon lose interest. She sounds like a maniac.

Mynameisthecatwhogotthecream · 15/08/2021 13:11

I would forward the message onto your ex and ask if he knows anything about it, let him deal with it. His response will let you know if he has got anything to do with it

iklboo · 15/08/2021 13:11

'Looking forward to it, love'

RonObvious · 15/08/2021 13:12

WTF? I can imagine someone being a bit miffed at you selling clothes they had bought (although that’s perfectly reasonable for you to do), but to threaten court? Seriously?

luciasanta · 15/08/2021 13:15

YANBU of course- what horrible messages Angry

Wombat64 · 15/08/2021 13:15

Yep, bat it over to your ex.

Sounds like she may be descending into mental health problems. She can take you to court but all you'd have to do is explain the situation and let them see you're behaving reasonably. It's a civil matter, so not needing anything like a solicitor. Will cost her money...

Theunamedcat · 15/08/2021 13:17

Get your ex involved and block her from your phone be polite to him and ask if he can shine a light on this situation because as far as your aware he was buying her clothes? Suggest anything she buys be labeled from now on and returned to her when she has grown out or that she no longer buys clothing as she clearly finds it distressing

trevthecat · 15/08/2021 13:19

Hahahahaha would love to see this on judge rinder 🤣

Cuddlyrottweiler · 15/08/2021 13:21

I think I'd send something along the lines of "mine and Exs setup of buying clothes and toys for DD is working really well for her and I feel like we have a good co-parenting relationship. If there's clothes at your house that you want keeping there, then don't send them to my house. But don't try to disrupt DDs routine and take me to court over some tops because it won't benefit anyone, certainly not DD."

And I think I'd send something similar to ex aswell. You seem to have a really good set up from the circumstances. If his mum starts shit stirring it's only going to damage her and her sons relationship with DD.

CagneyNYPD · 15/08/2021 13:21

Forward her messages onto your ex with a "I'm sending these to you so that we have full and clear transparency between us. I will no longer communicate with dd's grandmother as our communication regarding DD is sufficient. I'm happy to continue the clothing arrangements that we have for DD between ourselves. If this no longer suits you, feel free to get back to me with another plan".

Send the messages and then block your ex mil on all forms of communication. This woman has no need to contact you. Keep all communication regarding DD strictly between yourself and her other parent.

TerribleCustomerCervix · 15/08/2021 13:22

The only appropriate response to that text is the laughing-crying emoji 😂

From what I’ve heard, judges across any courts or tribunals don’t look kindly on anyone using them as a means to settle old scores or generally just to annoy other people.

I wouldn’t worry, let her crack on.

Justilou1 · 15/08/2021 13:22

Only one answer will do

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TheyreOnlyClothes · 15/08/2021 13:25

Have forwarded onto ExH and asked if he has a problem with our current arrangement will see what he replies.

OP posts:
Sirzy · 15/08/2021 13:27

“Dear Judge. My granddaughter is wearing clothes I purchased for her. Please make this stop” Grin

TheyreOnlyClothes · 15/08/2021 13:29

@Sirzy

“Dear Judge. My granddaughter is wearing clothes I purchased for her. Please make this stop” Grin
I laughed a bit too much here Grin
OP posts:
MagnoliaBeige · 15/08/2021 13:29

I’d reply “Yes, see you there” then block her.

MagnoliaBeige · 15/08/2021 13:30

@Justilou1

Only one answer will do

👍

I changed my mind, a million % this - cannot beat the passive aggressive thumbs up!!
Laquila · 15/08/2021 13:30

That is bananas 😳 thank God she's your EX-mil!!

MadMadMadamMim · 15/08/2021 13:31

I'd forward to your ex with DD will no longer be allowed to stay at your mother's house due to her threats towards me. How DARE she threaten to go for full custody and take my daughter away from me? She clearly has mental health issues and this is no longer a suitable place for DD to spend 1 night per fortnight. Please go back to court and suggest another venue that you could see DD in for your access. Until then she will not be seeing your mother.

I would seriously cut all ties. How fucking dare she threaten to take your daughter away? She must be insane! No court in the world would give her custody.

Jillish · 15/08/2021 13:33

I would reply ‘yes ok good luck with that. Please refrain from buying anything for DD in future so this doesn’t happen again’

Whyo · 15/08/2021 13:35

OP at small claims she has to basis of the claim in law. She’s gifted these items to your daughter it’s thereafter entirely up to the guardian what happens to them so don’t worry at all re that side.

You want to think very carefully how you react now to set boundaries in place to how theyre going to treat you for the rest of your daughters childhood. She, over nothing, just threatened to sue you and take your child away. Make it clear if she ever thinks to speak to you like that again you will be cutting contact completely vile abusive woman.