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Ex-MIL demanding “her” clothes back for DD

257 replies

TheyreOnlyClothes · 15/08/2021 13:07

Situation: Split with now ExH in 2017 due to his violence and control, share a 7yo DD.

Due to his own circumstances and DDs medical needs he has contact with DD at his parents, EOW for 1 night.

She obviously has clothes at both homes, and I’ve never been bothered about whats at Ex-Hs/Ex-PILs and whats here as long as she has enough of everything. Occasionally ExH will text me and ask me to send some extra leggings or tshirts or dresses etc. because he’s running short there, similarly I will text him. If she has a growth spurt we’ll both agree to buy things, so I might get dresses and tshirts and ExH will get leggings/trousers and jumpers (we both shop at different places so DD gets the chance to mix and match stuff depending on her mood). For each house we buy our own pants, socks and vests. Shoes go between houses but she does have things like wellies at both homes.

We didn’t get on as a couple, no matter what he did I’m not totally blameless so I am prepared to work at a co-parenting relationship, which I feel we have. We have both agreed that as long as she has clothes and toys at both homes things can move between them – both homes have a 1 in 1 out policy so if she brings something from ExHs to here, she takes something from here back to ExHs and vice versa.

Ex-MIL has sent me a long ranting text asking for all the clothes back shes bought for DD over the last few years, accused me of selling them to “profit from her son” and told me if I don’t hand them all over she is taking me to the small claims court for reimbursement before taking me to the family courts for full custody.

I’ve replied saying that when DD grows out of clothes both me and ExH sell the old ones to replace with new things, I have no idea which clothes she bought for DD as things go between homes but if DDs wardrobe there was running short of things I could sort out a bag of clothes to send with DD next time she’s there to keep there.

She’s replied “see you in court”

What I’ve replied is genuinely the truth, I have no idea who bought what clothes. There’s probably things I or my parents bought for DD at their house and the same with ExHs and Ex-PILs stuff here, I don’t care who bought it or where it is as long as DDs happy, clothed and got toys to play with. Similarly the other parents in DDs class swap things between us as some of the children can decide suddenly they love their friends jumper from none uniform day so we swap things around, so theres a chance that something ExH/Ex-PILs bought is actually being worn by one of the other girls in DDs class – I know for example there’s a jumper DD has and loves that was bought for her friend at school by her grandparents but she hated it so swapped it with DD for one she preferred I did buy the jumper she swapped though as I remember buying it (the school actually encourage this set up rather than clothes sitting unworn in wardrobes until they get thrown away).

So AIBU? And if she does take me to small claims will she win? I admit I sell old clothes on ebay and/or facebook to get some money back to get replacements and I maybe sell them before DD grows out of them fully so I can replace with a bigger size but I’ve never tried to profit from the arrangement. ExH pays maintenance but Ex-PILs think it’s too much so that’s the only reason I can think Ex-MIL is behaving like this.

OP posts:
Mallo11 · 15/08/2021 13:38

‘See you in court!’ Grin
Sounds like she’s been watching too many 80s American dramas, it’s the kind of line I imagine being uttered by a woman in massive shoulderpads with a feathery perm to one of her 6 ex-husbands

Really like the pass-ag thumbs up emoji as a reply 👍

godmum56 · 15/08/2021 13:39

yep. do not reply or engage, just send to ex H with a pleasant message asking him to deal with it.

Fdksyihfd · 15/08/2021 13:39

How bizarre; I thought you were going to say that she’d been asking for the odd outfit she’d bought recently so that your DD could wear it at hers. How on earth could she prove what she’s bought and what you have etc and you get so little for second hand clothes that it’s hardly profiting!
I don’t think you should stop sending your DD there though or say that your ex can’t; I think that’s making it unfair on your DD. Block your mil and just speak to your ex

Notaroadrunner · 15/08/2021 13:40

Don't respond again. Block her. The only person you need contact with is your ex.

Purpletomato · 15/08/2021 13:40

She's an idiot. They were gifts. Totally up to you if you sold them, binned them, gave to a friend, sent to charity shop or used to line a dog bed or make dusters!

FairFuming · 15/08/2021 13:44

Seems your ex's whole family is a waste of bloody space. Is the contact court ordered? I'd be thinking about reducing it a bit if it's not.

katemuff · 15/08/2021 13:45

Send her an application to Judge Rinder 😂😂😂😂😂

memberofthewedding · 15/08/2021 13:45

Letter before action from your solicitor (or can do yourself) threatening to remove the one night contact due to unfitness on the part of the grandparent.

TheyreOnlyClothes · 15/08/2021 13:46

@FairFuming

Seems your ex's whole family is a waste of bloody space. Is the contact court ordered? I'd be thinking about reducing it a bit if it's not.
Yes sadly CAO in place that wasn't actually needed as ExH and I had agreed contact between us but he took me to court anyway and got exactly what he asked for/we'd agreed Hmm
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Winemewhynot · 15/08/2021 13:46

What an absolute joy she is! Love a passive aggressive thumbs up or the judge ringer application form 😂 he would rip her a new one!

Don’t let it get to you though OP, you’ve done nothing wrong.

pussycatlickinglollyices · 15/08/2021 13:50

Surely she didn't give the clothes to you, they were for/to your DD...so therefore she needs to take your DD to the small claims court?

Not sure a court case "Granny v 7yo" will get her far...

How will exbatshitMIL explain this to your DD when she finds out that Granny is trying to take you to court for some second hand clothes that have been chucked/traded up?

Kithic · 15/08/2021 13:53

@Sirzy

“Dear Judge. My granddaughter is wearing clothes I purchased for her. Please make this stop” Grin
Too right

She’s replied “see you in court”
at which you just laughed??

MrsN85 · 15/08/2021 13:53

She sounds like a treat! Bless you dealing with that. She will probably get laughed out of court! Hope you're ok.

Knittedfairies · 15/08/2021 13:56

What a fool. I'd be tempted to text back 'Tell me where and when and I'll be there'

Sexnotgender · 15/08/2021 13:59

Block her. Ignore and block.

No judge in the land would entertain this lunacy. Let her waste her time and money if she wants.

gogohm · 15/08/2021 14:00

It will get thrown out and the administration team there will have a laugh at her expense. She would have to prove that she firstly bought the items (does she have receipts still?), then lent you the items for use with your dd - if it was a pram that was handed down for instance there is a case for reasonable expectation it would be offered back rather than sold but clothes , no. Hopefully her son can make her see sense. Perhaps it's time to talk to your ex about alternative arrangements! My friends dd has medical needs so her ex stays at the family home on contact nights and she stays at her dp's, works really well for them they didn't work as a couple but coparent far better and respect each other

Winniewonka · 15/08/2021 14:03

Wow! The Apple doesn't fall far from the Tree! I know you won't as you probably want to keep things on an even keel but I would be tempted to send her message saying " Looking forward to seeing your humiliation in court!"

1forAll74 · 15/08/2021 14:04

You are dealing with people, who have degenerated into a pathetic way of thinking, and your MIL, has lost the plot, if she thinks that she can takes some action, regarding a child's clothes being returned to her. She sounds bitter and rather deluded.

ParistoLondon · 15/08/2021 14:07

Your ex mil is a fool. Any judge will tell her to do one. In nicer, more professional terms. You must be delighted she's your EX mil. What an idiot.

ParistoLondon · 15/08/2021 14:08

@katemuff

Send her an application to Judge Rinder 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 OP, please do this.
pictish · 15/08/2021 14:09

Oh ignore her…or send back the thumbs up. What a twat she is. I’m laughing…but I’m sure it’s not funny for you. See you in court. Aye ok then.

isthisareverse · 15/08/2021 14:09

Don't lower yourself by sending any kind of reply longer than 👍 .

Dartsplayer · 15/08/2021 14:10

She's utterly batshit. I would block her and tell your ExH that communication is via him in future as you seem to be able to co-parent quite well given previous circumstances

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 15/08/2021 14:10

Hahahaha - good luck to her then! I know there are some loony judges and judgements out there but they're not going to hand over full custody to this particular grade A twat, when you and your Ex are managing to co-parent your DD quite successfully, over, of all things, outgrown clothes!

MilduraS · 15/08/2021 14:10

You could walk into a court room completely unprepared and still come out a winner on this one. Ex-MIL is nuts. Keep the communication between you and EX-DH and ignore anything you receive from her.

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