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Am I really a bully?! Should I give them the money?

255 replies

Charitytat · 13/08/2021 16:49

Sorry this is long and sounds very petty, but it's more indicative of a bigger picture and related to my relationship with my parents, which I struggle with. Happy to be told AIBU but please be kind 😬 as my anxiety is making this all very upsetting.

For several years I've enjoyed nosying around car boots and charity shops for bargains, and sometimes make a bit of spending money doing this. My parents started doing the same thing a few years ago and do regular car boots. These now take up most weekends and when they visit they want to spend all day in charity shops. They are very grabby and competitive. I don't resent this but it means it usually trumps anything else and it's getting wearing.

On a recent visit we'd been in a shop about an hour. It was lunch, I was worried about the dog, dad was bored. He asked me to get mum. She was looking at something, asked me about it, and I said I didn't really like it although to be fair I didn't really look properly. I then asked if we could go as both dad and I were waiting. She ended up not buying it but bought other things.

Mum had googled stuff on her phone and told me to go back to the shop to buy some (horrendous) tea pots. A couple of days later I popped in, couldn't find the teapots (secretly relieved) but saw the thing mum was looking at, had another look and googled it. It turned out to be worth a fair bit of money, so I bought it.

I told them about it and after mum found out what it was worth she was upset and quiet. Dad then said I had been horrible to mum and called me a bully, and that I made mum not buy it in the shop. He is really angry and has said I must give half the money to mum. This is despite him wanting to leave and asking me to get mum. Mum is her own entity and could have googled it, but in their heads I am now mean for buying it and turning a profit. If I had bought the teapot that would have been fine, but this item is apparently not fine. If someone else had bought clearly they wouldn't think badly of that person and would have just been irritated it 'got away'. But I have been horrible to them.

I think what's really going on is mum is upset with herself for not buying it and is taking it out on me, and mum can do no wrong in dad's eyes and he is backing mum up in his own way. They are NEVER wrong.

It's nearly 2 months rent (they know I am struggling for money). I told mum I'd give her some and she said 'i should think so too'. No thanks, no happiness, just an entitled response. I was initially intending on giving mum some, but as a surprise. Now I feel very resentful for being forced to. Dad called me a bully really upset me and ironically I now feel bullied.

Sorry this is long. It's not really about the money I suppose, but about my relationship with my parents. I'm 35 and feel like a child.
I would LOVE to stick up to them and I have told dad he is wrong for what he said, but he completely disagrees. They are now not talking to me about it but I expect this will change once I give mum the money.

AIBU for either keeping all of the money or just bloody giving it to charity to spite them, even though I need it? I feel like the damage is done on both sides, right or wrong, but is there a way of turning this around?

I can see mum's view and she thinks that I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't seen her looking at it. I don't know if that's true or not. It's dad's behaviour I'm really upset with.

For those who think I should give the money to charity regardless, this is not an uncommon thing (watch Antiques roadshow!) So would appreciate not being told that I'm stealing from charity - I bought it, not stole it!

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Charitytat · 13/08/2021 16:50

Wow that was long, really sorry!! I don't have any medals I'm afraid.

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Kazplus2 · 13/08/2021 16:54

Your mum drew your attention to it. I think you should give her half the profit.

Ponoka7 · 13/08/2021 16:55

I think that you should split it. I wouldn't have considered not splitting it.

PegasusReturns · 13/08/2021 16:55

I think in these circumstances your mum is not being unreasonable. You told her you didn’t like something and then bought it yourself.

That said it sounds like you have a terrible relationship with your parents and the first thing you should do is stop spending every weekend with them

Sarahlou63 · 13/08/2021 16:56

Do you live with your parents?

I know your focus is currently on this particular incident but (as you said yourself) it's part of a much bigger issue.

thebear1 · 13/08/2021 16:56

I would not take money off my child so i don't understand your parents demand. I would however probably give them the money to avoid the drama.

Getawaywithit · 13/08/2021 16:56

Hope you’re paying tax on your earnings

GnomeOrMistAndIceGuy · 13/08/2021 16:57

Why the fuck did you tell her how much it was worth? It snacks of meanness imo. How did you imagine she would react when you rushed her out of buying it and snuck back to buy it yourself?

StarDrawers · 13/08/2021 16:57

Stop going shopping with them if it's going 5i cause problems.

Your mum spotted it and drew your attention to it so I think she's owed half.

Whattheschitt · 13/08/2021 16:57

I'd of split it.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 13/08/2021 16:58

Keep the money (for therapy) and check out the Stately Homes threads.

Have you sold it or are they asking for money you might get?

Martinisarebetterdirty · 13/08/2021 16:59

I think you should give it all to your mum. You rushed her (even though your dad asked you to you wanted to) and told her you didn’t like it. I fully see why they are upset with you, it feels like you went back for it sneakily.
If you’re going to do this then you shouldn’t have said you’d bought it and made money on it. But then I get on with my parents and I would have offered immediately.

StarDrawers · 13/08/2021 16:59

If you weren't going to give them any then you should have just stayed quiet and never mentioned it.

Penistoe · 13/08/2021 17:00

Is it sold. Looking up value in the internet is not a guarantee.

Charitytat · 13/08/2021 17:00

@Kazplus2

Your mum drew your attention to it. I think you should give her half the profit.
I can see how it looks that way and maybe that's the case. But when I went back and saw the teapots weren't there, I didn't want it to be a wasted trip, so I looked at lots of other things, this included. It's not like I made a beeline for this thing because I secretly thought it was a great find, or mum told me it was valuable. It was just amongst the things I looked at and I remember mum looking at it. She certainly didn't dear my attention to it in a 'look at this, it's worth money' sort of way.

But I do see this point absolutely, and as I mentioned, I was already planning on giving mum some money. I imagined her being happy and excited to get a surprise like that.

Instead now I feel like dad has 'won' by demanding I do this and I'm just enabling him to repeat this behaviour.

I am not a bully and being a victim of bullying for a lot of my life find this label really upsetting.

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aiwblam · 13/08/2021 17:00

Christ what a horrible relationship. If this had happened in my family, either my mum or my mil would have been thrilled for me to have the profit.

I think the problem is that you are struggling for money. Are they also struggling for money? If neither party was struggling for money, it would have been right and fair to split the profits. But if they are not struggling and you are their child and also struggling, it seems totally weird for them to want money off you.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 13/08/2021 17:00

I cant see any bullying from you.

Its not your fault that charity shop volunteers do not have the same knowledge as you do, so dont feel bad about that. Selling stuff on is acceptable - lots of people do it.

If you want to turn this particular incident around then give her some of the money. However that wont help in the long run. You say its indicative of your relationship with your parents. Do you get made to feel like youre to blame for stuff beyond your control?

pasturesgreen · 13/08/2021 17:01

Personally, I'd have split the money or treated my mum to a nice lunch or something with the proceeds, seeing as she was the one who attracted your attention to the object.

Then again, if my parents knew I was struggling for money they'd be the first to tell me to just keep it and pay my rent, so I appreciate mine is a different family dynamic. But by all means use the money to pay your rent, no point cutting off your nose to spite your face and giving it to charity when you need it yourself!

MaMelon · 13/08/2021 17:01

I'm with your Dad. "It was lunch, I was worried about the dog, dad was bored. He asked me to get mum. She was looking at something, asked me about it, and I said I didn't really like it although to be fair I didn't really look properly. I then asked if we could go as both dad and I were waiting". Sounds like your mum felt hurried out of the shop by you and your dad and didn't have a chance to google it. You also admitted you wouldn't have bought the thing she'd been looking at, you only did it because you had the luxury of time to google it and find out it was worth something without someone hurrying you out of the shop.

Yep, I'd give her half - but I can imagine your relationship with them might make you behave differently, and her reaction wasn't very generous either.

sleepyhoglet · 13/08/2021 17:02

Your mum noticed it. Look, be cheeky and buy it but don't then rub it in their noses! Keep quiet and no one would have been any wiser

Theunamedcat · 13/08/2021 17:02

Sell it and keep a roof over your head give them money if you want to when your more financially stable

And minimise your contact with them its her choice to buy something or not approaching your mom saying dad wants to leave is really not your fault technically your dad owes her because HE WANTED TO LEAVE

dunkaccino · 13/08/2021 17:04

Say it wasn't worth as much as you thought, sell it on ebay to a friend for a little over what you paid, and give them half of the 'profit'. They get their half and you pay the rent.

Why on earth did you even mention it?

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 13/08/2021 17:04

Your relationship with your parents sounds toxic.

I don’t think what you did was bullying. But I really do think that you should share the profits equally on tut circumstances that you describe. Mother or not. Whoever it was. And if you didn’t want to you were crazy to tell her about it.

SixesAndEights · 13/08/2021 17:04

Split the money. What you've done looks underhand and as if you deliberately got her attention away from it so you could buy it.

I know this isn't what happened, however you noticed it in the first place because your mum was looking at it. Would it really have caught your attention when you went back if she hadn't been? I think you'd have gone to the shop, bought the teapots, and not even glanced at the item.

ExpressDelivery · 13/08/2021 17:04

You wouldn't have looked at it without your mum drawing it to your attention. You didn't even like it. The only reason to buy it was as a gift for your mum IMO.

That said, I can't imagine my parents asking for or wanting the money