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Am I really a bully?! Should I give them the money?

255 replies

Charitytat · 13/08/2021 16:49

Sorry this is long and sounds very petty, but it's more indicative of a bigger picture and related to my relationship with my parents, which I struggle with. Happy to be told AIBU but please be kind 😬 as my anxiety is making this all very upsetting.

For several years I've enjoyed nosying around car boots and charity shops for bargains, and sometimes make a bit of spending money doing this. My parents started doing the same thing a few years ago and do regular car boots. These now take up most weekends and when they visit they want to spend all day in charity shops. They are very grabby and competitive. I don't resent this but it means it usually trumps anything else and it's getting wearing.

On a recent visit we'd been in a shop about an hour. It was lunch, I was worried about the dog, dad was bored. He asked me to get mum. She was looking at something, asked me about it, and I said I didn't really like it although to be fair I didn't really look properly. I then asked if we could go as both dad and I were waiting. She ended up not buying it but bought other things.

Mum had googled stuff on her phone and told me to go back to the shop to buy some (horrendous) tea pots. A couple of days later I popped in, couldn't find the teapots (secretly relieved) but saw the thing mum was looking at, had another look and googled it. It turned out to be worth a fair bit of money, so I bought it.

I told them about it and after mum found out what it was worth she was upset and quiet. Dad then said I had been horrible to mum and called me a bully, and that I made mum not buy it in the shop. He is really angry and has said I must give half the money to mum. This is despite him wanting to leave and asking me to get mum. Mum is her own entity and could have googled it, but in their heads I am now mean for buying it and turning a profit. If I had bought the teapot that would have been fine, but this item is apparently not fine. If someone else had bought clearly they wouldn't think badly of that person and would have just been irritated it 'got away'. But I have been horrible to them.

I think what's really going on is mum is upset with herself for not buying it and is taking it out on me, and mum can do no wrong in dad's eyes and he is backing mum up in his own way. They are NEVER wrong.

It's nearly 2 months rent (they know I am struggling for money). I told mum I'd give her some and she said 'i should think so too'. No thanks, no happiness, just an entitled response. I was initially intending on giving mum some, but as a surprise. Now I feel very resentful for being forced to. Dad called me a bully really upset me and ironically I now feel bullied.

Sorry this is long. It's not really about the money I suppose, but about my relationship with my parents. I'm 35 and feel like a child.
I would LOVE to stick up to them and I have told dad he is wrong for what he said, but he completely disagrees. They are now not talking to me about it but I expect this will change once I give mum the money.

AIBU for either keeping all of the money or just bloody giving it to charity to spite them, even though I need it? I feel like the damage is done on both sides, right or wrong, but is there a way of turning this around?

I can see mum's view and she thinks that I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't seen her looking at it. I don't know if that's true or not. It's dad's behaviour I'm really upset with.

For those who think I should give the money to charity regardless, this is not an uncommon thing (watch Antiques roadshow!) So would appreciate not being told that I'm stealing from charity - I bought it, not stole it!

OP posts:
whatthejiggeries · 13/08/2021 18:09

Genuinely I think that out of order. I would have called my mum and said you know that thing you were looking at? It's with a bomb shall j get it for you? I would never have done what you did

Goosethemoose · 13/08/2021 18:09

Can’t believe the replies. You’re not in the wrong! She didn’t look it up, didn’t buy it, you didn’t hurry her out with the secret intention of going back and getting one over on her. Your parents are being unbelievable, and grabby and rude.

I agree with your assessment of the situation regarding your mum feeling cross with herself and projecting.

Obviously you’ve messed up by mentioning it when clearly it’s a challenging relationship. I’d sell it, give them a chunk (10% 25%?) to keep the peace - with a fib about the price you got, lest it descend further into accusations of your meanness - and put a roof over your head. And see them less.

Confiscatedpopit · 13/08/2021 18:09

I don’t think you are a bully but I do think that’s a bit of a rotten trick. I’d have given it her as a gift once I found out the price and told her she had good taste!

Regularsizedrudy · 13/08/2021 18:10

I would have told my mum I’d found out it was actually worth money and asked if she wanted me to buy it for her so she could sell it. I think you have been quite mean tbh.

CharlotteRose90 · 13/08/2021 18:10

Very unreasonable. When you went back you should have googled the item and when you got the price told her and picked it up for her. It was thanks to you after all that she left the shop. Very very sneaky. You owe her Atleast half.

Chloemol · 13/08/2021 18:10

After that behaviour I would keep the money and walk away from your parents and leave them to it

AmazinglyGraceless · 13/08/2021 18:10

I think you're totally out of order op.

I've tried to think of a similar situation.

Two dc go to a shop. They're both looking for Xbox gaming items to improve their gameplay.
Dc1 sees an item he thinks may be good...he shows it to dc2 who says he doesn't think its worth bothering with and they need to leave as it's getting late. Dc1 takes this on board and puts it back.
The next day dc2 goes back to the shop for other reasons, then buys it for himself, after discovering that actually it really is worth it for improving gameplay.
He tells dc1 he might consider sharing with him but as he's seriously worried about his own gameplay at the moment, he thinks he should keep it. He thinks it's bad luck to dc1 that he didn't buy it.

Gameplay being money in your case op.

I'm pretty sure that in this scenario, I would be telling ds2 that it was sneaky and mean to buy the item himself in this instance and that being concerned about his own gameplay in NO WAY excused his underhand behaviour. I would expect him to hand it over to Ds1 (with Ds1 reimbursing him for it) and tell them both that in future they should shop separately or agree to evenly split any 'finds' in advance.

Whatever other issues you have in your relationship, I think you're 100% in the wrong here op and trying to justify keeping it (all or partially). Really really wanting it yourself doesn't make it OK. You're out of order and your parents are justifiably hurt/annoyed by it.

If you wanted to be decent about it, you would have bought it and then given it to your mum and said you'd realised it was actually worth x after googling and you shouldn't have said you didn't like it...she can have it if she likes (paying you, obviously).

Trying to keep it or acting as if you're being hugely benevolent by giving half makes you a sneaky, self-serving arsehole of the highest order.

iklboo · 13/08/2021 18:10

Hope you’re paying tax on your earnings

Not sure you know how tax works. OP isn't an antiques dealer or a shop owner.

cinammonbuns · 13/08/2021 18:12

Tbh I think your r Jesuit looking for people to agree with you and justify you not giving your mother some of the money because your dad was mean. Put yourself in her shoes. Not going to bother elaborating any more though because from the tone of your responses you are one of those posters who only wants to be told they are right and will argue with anybody saying anything else.

fuckingsickofcovid · 13/08/2021 18:14

I wouldn't give them money, but I also wouldn't have told them 🤷🏻‍♀️

Greystray · 13/08/2021 18:14

I believe your version of events, but I can also see why your DP's might feel aggrieved. Your mistake was in mentioning it to them at all. It might be an idea to edit what you say to them in future if they are going to be so reactive.

I'm surprised your charity shop let something valuable slip through the net. At the ones in my town they check the label/manufacturer on everything and do an ebay search. Very few bargains to be had. They even sell Primark clothing at full price Confused

HollowTalk · 13/08/2021 18:17

Are your parents short of money? If so I'd split it. If not, I wouldn't have told them about it. Do you have an eBay account where they would've seen it up for sale?

CarolinaWeeper · 13/08/2021 18:17

I think the story reflects badly on both you and your parents. I can see how it looks like you were underhand, even if that wasn't your intention. But it isn't bullying so your dad is being ridiculous.

I mean this gently OP but you are a 35 year old woman and this sounds like you're a teenager, your parents also seem like they're being immature. I think you need to cut the apron strings as the whole episode is just a very strange way for a family to interact.

godmum56 · 13/08/2021 18:17

maintain the high ground, split the money with your mother and then go NC.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 13/08/2021 18:19

If that happened to me (it wouldn’t) then I would have bought it and called her “Mum, guess what, x piece of junk you liked is worth £££. I bought it for you.”
The relationship sounds awful and mean spirited. And since you did buy the item you told her you didn’t like, and turned a profit on it, why did you tell her? How did you expect her to react?

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/08/2021 18:19

Are your parents struggling for money?

I’m not surprised you’re having MH issues if your parents treat you like this. I think MummBra has the best plan. Tell them you had intended on cutting them in but they’ve spoiled it now and go nc for a while.

Lovelock1984 · 13/08/2021 18:21

I think the morally right thing to do is split the profit. However, from their behaviour O would make it clear I no longer wanted to go antique hunting with them at all - when asked just say I'd rather not given what happened last time. Might make them think.

lannistunut · 13/08/2021 18:21

I think you need to spend less time with your parents and go back to doing this youurself.

AmazinglyGraceless · 13/08/2021 18:21

This is one of those posts that I would dearly love to hear the other side of, on this and other issues.

The op seems to think her parents are often in the wrong/unfair.

If the parents are always 'as wrong' as they are in this scenario (ie not at all, justifiably pissed off) then I imagine the op is the one fairly hard to deal with usually, not the parents.

Charitytat · 13/08/2021 18:21

I think some people are missing the point of the thread, probably my fault for not phrasing properly what I wanted from this. Also a few points that people are getting wrong:

  • I have NEVER said that I wasn't going to give Mum some of the money. This was my intention from the start and I was excited to do it in a thoughtful way like take her out.
  • I didn't sneak back to the shop. Mum told me to go.
  • I didn't force Mum to leave. Dad asked me to tell her to hurry up as we'd been in there ages, which is perfectly fair.
  • She had googled loads of other things. I honestly believe that she wouldn't have bought it even if I hadn't of asked her about hurrying up at that time.
  • I told them it was worth something because 1. I was intending on giving Mum some and 2. I think it would be FAR worse if I had not told them and sneakily kept all of the money

My AIBU is that, AFTER my Dad's behaviour and calling me a bully, and my Mum's entitled comments just expecting without any sort of thank you for getting it, well done for having a proper look, thanks for the time it will take to put it on ebay, I don't feel like continuing with the original plan. I feel hurt by Dad's comments and silent treatment and it's been completely ruined.

Does that make more sense? It's not really about should I have given Mum half the money after buying it. It's should I CONTINUE given their behaviour, which has really affected me.

OP posts:
thenewduchessofhastings · 13/08/2021 18:24

Jeez how petty and grabby.

If my adult child was struggling for money I'd be happy they made enough to cover 2 months rent.

putthebinsout · 13/08/2021 18:24

They're being very childish not speaking to you about it but I'd definitely give mum half the money. Well, I'd offer but she would t take it.

ParvenuLaLa · 13/08/2021 18:25

Similar dynamic in my family. My mother is never wrong. My dad is her foot soldier.

HelloDulling · 13/08/2021 18:26

I know this isn’t the point, but you spend AN HOUR in one charity shop?

EmotionalSupportBear · 13/08/2021 18:27

they're being really petty.

Personally i'd sell it, not tell them how much for, give mum a token amount, then seriously reduce the time i spent with them.. and tell them why.

Their behaviour is atrocious, and you don't have to put up with it.

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