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Am I really a bully?! Should I give them the money?

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Charitytat · 13/08/2021 16:49

Sorry this is long and sounds very petty, but it's more indicative of a bigger picture and related to my relationship with my parents, which I struggle with. Happy to be told AIBU but please be kind 😬 as my anxiety is making this all very upsetting.

For several years I've enjoyed nosying around car boots and charity shops for bargains, and sometimes make a bit of spending money doing this. My parents started doing the same thing a few years ago and do regular car boots. These now take up most weekends and when they visit they want to spend all day in charity shops. They are very grabby and competitive. I don't resent this but it means it usually trumps anything else and it's getting wearing.

On a recent visit we'd been in a shop about an hour. It was lunch, I was worried about the dog, dad was bored. He asked me to get mum. She was looking at something, asked me about it, and I said I didn't really like it although to be fair I didn't really look properly. I then asked if we could go as both dad and I were waiting. She ended up not buying it but bought other things.

Mum had googled stuff on her phone and told me to go back to the shop to buy some (horrendous) tea pots. A couple of days later I popped in, couldn't find the teapots (secretly relieved) but saw the thing mum was looking at, had another look and googled it. It turned out to be worth a fair bit of money, so I bought it.

I told them about it and after mum found out what it was worth she was upset and quiet. Dad then said I had been horrible to mum and called me a bully, and that I made mum not buy it in the shop. He is really angry and has said I must give half the money to mum. This is despite him wanting to leave and asking me to get mum. Mum is her own entity and could have googled it, but in their heads I am now mean for buying it and turning a profit. If I had bought the teapot that would have been fine, but this item is apparently not fine. If someone else had bought clearly they wouldn't think badly of that person and would have just been irritated it 'got away'. But I have been horrible to them.

I think what's really going on is mum is upset with herself for not buying it and is taking it out on me, and mum can do no wrong in dad's eyes and he is backing mum up in his own way. They are NEVER wrong.

It's nearly 2 months rent (they know I am struggling for money). I told mum I'd give her some and she said 'i should think so too'. No thanks, no happiness, just an entitled response. I was initially intending on giving mum some, but as a surprise. Now I feel very resentful for being forced to. Dad called me a bully really upset me and ironically I now feel bullied.

Sorry this is long. It's not really about the money I suppose, but about my relationship with my parents. I'm 35 and feel like a child.
I would LOVE to stick up to them and I have told dad he is wrong for what he said, but he completely disagrees. They are now not talking to me about it but I expect this will change once I give mum the money.

AIBU for either keeping all of the money or just bloody giving it to charity to spite them, even though I need it? I feel like the damage is done on both sides, right or wrong, but is there a way of turning this around?

I can see mum's view and she thinks that I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't seen her looking at it. I don't know if that's true or not. It's dad's behaviour I'm really upset with.

For those who think I should give the money to charity regardless, this is not an uncommon thing (watch Antiques roadshow!) So would appreciate not being told that I'm stealing from charity - I bought it, not stole it!

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TheGoogleMum · 13/08/2021 17:31

You weren't being a bully but it does look a bit bad. I'd split the profits (minus half cost of item)

billy1966 · 13/08/2021 17:31

@MummBraTheEverLeaking

Tell them that actually yes you were intending to give your mum some money as a nice surprise but they have ruined that with their attitudes, that you are very upset they think that little of you considering they raised you, and that it's probably best you have some space. Then go NC for a while.
This.

You are most definitely NOT a bully.

Any decent parent would be pleased for their child.

Your father sounds really nasty and a real bully.

He should be ashamed of himself.

You really, really need to step away from these people.

From what you have written, they would not be healthy to be around and not goid for your MH.

Take some space.

Your father sounds like a Class A prick.

Mind yourself. Flowers

Charitytat · 13/08/2021 17:31

@TheWholeJingbang

Yeah you’re in the wrong

HTH

Can you elaborate?

For what it's worth, I'm going to (and as I said, always was) going to give Mum some money.

Do you think their behaviour is right?

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HappyAsASandboy · 13/08/2021 17:31

I would have suggested splitting it, right up until their entitled behaviour. No way I'd split it now.

Sell it, keep the money, abs tell them you put it back in the charity shop because the situation made you feel bad and you wanted it gone.

Don't tell them about your successes in future!

SaltySheepdog · 13/08/2021 17:32

My parents would have been overjoyed for me to keep the full profit. We would have joked about her missing the purchase and me getting it.

Your mum has google and could have looked the item up herself. Would she have demanded half the cash if a stranger bought it? It’s not bullying. And I would not go charity shopping again with them after such poor behaviour

MaMelon · 13/08/2021 17:33

The point is that Dad is equally responsible for us leaving (although again we spent another 10-15 minutes in the shop)

Yes - but your dad isn’t responsible for buying something that your mum had her eye on when he had the luxury of time to Google its worth, and then not sharing the profit with her. You don’t know if she’d have bought it if she’d had the same time available to her.

SaltySheepdog · 13/08/2021 17:34

Give them a bit of space, live less in their pocket

Onesipmore · 13/08/2021 17:35

The thing is both you and your Dad were keen to leave and get your Mum out of the shop. You specifically said you didn't really care for the item.On your return you then purchased it. If I was your Mum, I would definitely feel funny about this, added to which you telling her about it and how much money it had made! You say throughout you were going to give her 'some' do you mean half? Would have been much better on revisiting to have kept quiet, sold it on, then approached your Mum with half.Job done. Your Dad feels bad for your Mum, who in this case hasn't done anything wrong, so he is being protective of her - unfortunately at your expense. You aren't a bully but you haven't handled this well.

VexedofVirginiaWater · 13/08/2021 17:35

As you were always going to give(or half?) of the money, I would still do this, but I would distance yourself from these bargain buying outings in future and tell them why. Go bargain hunting on your own and then there are no accusations.

Bogofftosomewherehot · 13/08/2021 17:36

Give her half and stop spending so much time with them looking at antiques. Also, mad of you to mention the value and then not think she'd be upset - it was pretty obvious that she may react this way. Keep your mouth shut next time.

chaosmaker · 13/08/2021 17:36

If you are struggling for money then keep it. If she'd really wanted it, then she could have got it when she was looking at it. I wouldn't go out with them again to charity shops/car boots and I'd tell them they'd spoiled it for me. I also probably wouldn't have mentioned I'd bought it at all if they are grabby.

illuyankas · 13/08/2021 17:37

You wouldn't have gone back if your mum didn't ask. You couldn't find teapot, so you tried to find something else for her, as it sounds like. You found the thing she liked, then found out it was worth something, so decided to keep it. I would at least give her half the profit if I decided to keep it for myself, would have given it to her, tbh. But I can see it depend on your financial situation.

notangelinajolie · 13/08/2021 17:37

I think you should have bought the thing for your mum - which would have been a nice thing to do. Buying it for yourself is a little bit selfish. And then to add insult to injury you tell her what you have done.

EmbarrassingMama · 13/08/2021 17:37

What was it?

Eviebeans · 13/08/2021 17:38

How much did you sell it for?

VexedofVirginiaWater · 13/08/2021 17:39

The more I think about it the more annoyed I feel on your behalf. Yes, give them half the profit but tell them you won't be shopping with them again as you're sure they won't want to go shopping with a bully.

Petty? Moi?

Butchyrestingface · 13/08/2021 17:39

I don't think you're a bully. But I can't understand why you told them about this - think this would put a lot of people's noses out, even reasonable people completely unlike your father.

Be more circumspect about what you tell your parents in future.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 13/08/2021 17:40

You know dogs survive few hours by themselves...

I would split it

NotImpossible · 13/08/2021 17:40

I would split the profit after tax with my parent. But I would try to give them the whole amount tbh, and I imagine they'd refuse to take any. But it sounds like this is part of a bigger picture for you and your relationships are obviously very different.

user1493494961 · 13/08/2021 17:40

You sound just as competitive, else why would you tell her how much it is supposedly worth.

amihavinganervousbreakdown · 13/08/2021 17:42

I would actually just give them the item. That way you walk away from the situation.
I can see both sides - FWIW I think they're being unreasonable but perhaps you should have said that when you went back you had a closer look and bought it with the intention of splitting the profit.

Eviebeans · 13/08/2021 17:44

Have you actually sold the item and made the profit yet?

Charitytat · 13/08/2021 17:47

@illuyankas

You wouldn't have gone back if your mum didn't ask. You couldn't find teapot, so you tried to find something else for her, as it sounds like. You found the thing she liked, then found out it was worth something, so decided to keep it. I would at least give her half the profit if I decided to keep it for myself, would have given it to her, tbh. But I can see it depend on your financial situation.
Sorry just to correct this, she told me to go back to get the things for me to sell because she knows I'm struggling for money.
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Sparklfairy · 13/08/2021 17:47

Actually I'd feel exactly like you, her entitled sniffy response to saying you'd give her some of the money would put me right off.

It would have been a nice thing to do but they've shat on it with their attitude.

Walkaround · 13/08/2021 17:47

@Charitytat - sorry, I’m a bit confused. Did you go to the shop to get the teapots for your mother, using her money, or did she ask you to get the teapots with your money and sell them yourself? Because if she gave you some money, or was going to pay you back for getting the teapots for her, I think you were somewhat thoughtless and selfish to be relieved you didn’t have to buy the teapots, but instead to buy something for yourself to make a profit on that you knew your mother had wanted and only hadn’t bought because you told her not to. Personally, I would have bought the thing she had originally wanted as a replacement purchase for the teapots that were no longer there and told her that she had been right after all, it was worth something and a good buy, so you’d got that for her with her money instead. As you say she is a generous person, she might well have then shared the profit with you, and everyone would have been happy. Instead, you made it appear that you look down on her taste, made her feel a fool for thinking it was something good (even though it was), and then diddled her out of her find so that you could have it for yourself.