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Housemate who secretly recorded us has been made a lecturer at UK university

334 replies

Smurfsarethefuture · 12/08/2021 12:15

I cannot be unreasonable here. I wrote on here about two yrs ago about my housemate who hid a camera in our kitchen. He is now a lecturer at a London uni.

The police were not interested neither was landlady- I didn’t contact university and am now wondering should I?

OP posts:

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 16:52

@Bluntness100

This is getting odd, one or two posters desperate for the man to be reported and done so in a way that makes him look like a pervert, by giving partial facts. Everyone else saying the same thing, a big fat no.

Just really odd.

indeed 🌸

myrtleWilson · 13/08/2021 16:54

The OP (under different names) had very intense/challenging relationships with many of her housemates - am not sure she is a particularly reliable narrator to be honest

TheGenealogist · 13/08/2021 16:54

A lot of companies have zero tolerance policies ..so there is a good chance you could have exposed him yes.

Does Zero Tolerance mean "taking the word of every randomer with a grudge as gospel"?

Do you REALLY think that some employers sack people on hearsay? Funny how a couple of people have popped up on this thread to say how correct the OP is, just as the OP disappears.....

There is NOTHING to report. Because despite indicating that she did, the OP admits she never went to the OP. So reporting it to his new employer would be along the lines of "I shared a house with Jimmy, he was videoing the kitchen. I didn't like it, asked him to stop and he did. I didn't report him to the police, or the University. But despite this, I want you to..... well, I don't know what I want you to do, but you need to believe that this man is a genuine risk, without any proof, any criminal record, and purely on my say-so".

Hekatestorch · 13/08/2021 16:58

A lot of companies have zero tolerance policies

What zero tolerance of what?

Lumpwoody · 13/08/2021 17:00

What did the uni say when you reported him to his phd supervisor in 2019?

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 17:01

@TheGenealogist

I was replying to @PurpleDaisies
about her personal Domestic Violence situation..

You are confusing my replies up 🌸

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 17:01

@Hekatestorch

A lot of companies have zero tolerance policies

What zero tolerance of what?

Domestic Violence

PurpleDaisies · 13/08/2021 17:03

I would not expect to walk into a workplace with zero proof except my say so and expect to get someone fired under “zero tolerance”.

I would expect to walk into a police station and have my allegations investigated.

Hekatestorch · 13/08/2021 17:07

Domestic Violence

The person you replied to said they had no proof.

Employers can't just sack an employee because someone from their past claims they committed domestic violence, with or proof.

Bluntness100 · 13/08/2021 17:07

@Lumpwoody

What did the uni say when you reported him to his phd supervisor in 2019?

Oh wow, really? That would turn it into stalking wanting to do it again.

The one positive is if the op reports it he can report her to the police for harassment and stalking,

Op are you stalking this man? Is that how you actually know about his job?

Polkadots2021 · 13/08/2021 17:08

From the limited info given here, it sounds as if years ago, a PhD student involved in motion studies set up a camera in a kitchen to study motion. When asked to move said camera he did, to point the camera externally. A kitchen sounds like the least 'obtrusive' place to put a motion study camera, kind of like the coffee room in an office. As I understand it, he also set up an automated plant feeder. Sounds very related to his PhD. Presumably the lack of info is related to the fact that this was all that happened as that's really a non story.

It sounds to me OP like you have an obsession with this man. The police wouldn't be interested as there was no crime whatsoever, it reads to me like a non event that happens years ago, yet you track his career, years later, and now want to ruin it.

GintyMcGinty · 13/08/2021 17:09

As an employer - if a member of the public alleged domestic violence was being carried out by one of our employees I would signpost them to relevant charities for support and encourage them to report the matter to the police.

Investigating allegations from the past without evidence, charges, convictions - sorry but no - wouldn't touch it.

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 17:10

@Hekatestorch

Domestic Violence

The person you replied to said they had no proof.

Employers can't just sack an employee because someone from their past claims they committed domestic violence, with or proof.

If you had read my reply ...

I asked @PurpleDaisies if it had been reported ...

Purple felt it was getting too personal..

So I think in respect to PurpleDaisies.. the matter of her situation she be left there .. 🌸

Hekatestorch · 13/08/2021 17:10

@myrtleWilson

The OP (under different names) had very intense/challenging relationships with many of her housemates - am not sure she is a particularly reliable narrator to be honest

If this is correct and op has a history of difficult relationships with housemates and struggles to move on from them, there's every chance she has already attempted something towards this man (or others) which makes it easier for him to claim harassment.

The theory that this is more about professional jealousy, seems to male more sense than anything else.

PurpleDaisies · 13/08/2021 17:13

@GintyMcGinty

Investigating allegations from the past without evidence, charges, convictions - sorry but no - wouldn't touch it.

This is exactly the point I was making. What employer is going to investigate historical themselves?

Obviously caveats for schools/safeguarding etc but the op’s other thread makes it clear that’s not the case here. The police are the ones that deal with that,

Hekatestorch · 13/08/2021 17:14

@QueenBee52 now you realised you are talking nonsense. I didn't bring that users name into it.

We don't need to keep mentioning her or tagging her into things.

But your statement that someone can get someone sacked from a job, because they claim they did something bad but have no proof is wrong.

That's relevant to this thread, because you keep insisting the OP can do that.

Lweji · 13/08/2021 17:16

Even with zero tolerance on a contract, I suspect anyone sacked only for allegations of domestic violence would have a good case for unfair dismissal (or whatever it's called).

I'm sure it will be different if there is a conviction.

PurpleDaisies · 13/08/2021 17:17

Yes, I’m totally happy with that @Hekatestorch. I just didn’t want to get bogged down in details which aren’t relevant to the thread.

I had no proof. It happened a long time ago. I would not expect an op to just sack him. I wouldn’t want my employer to just sack me if someone turned up saying I’d hit them when it would be a lie.

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 17:17

[quote Hekatestorch]@QueenBee52 now you realised you are talking nonsense. I didn't bring that users name into it.

We don't need to keep mentioning her or tagging her into things.

But your statement that someone can get someone sacked from a job, because they claim they did something bad but have no proof is wrong.

That's relevant to this thread, because you keep insisting the OP can do that.[/quote]

Im sorry you're struggling to follow the thread.. 🌸

PurpleDaisies · 13/08/2021 17:17

Sorry that should say I wouldn’t expect an employer to sack him with no proof, not the op!

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 17:19

@PurpleDaisies

Sorry that should say I wouldn’t expect an employer to sack him with no proof, not the op!

you didn't Report it.. you there is no proof .. correct

PurpleDaisies · 13/08/2021 17:19

Im sorry you're struggling to follow the thread…

I’m sorry you’re living in fantasy land about employment law.

You can’t just get someone sacked on an allegation with nothing go back it up.

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 17:20

@Lweji

Even with zero tolerance on a contract, I suspect anyone sacked only for allegations of domestic violence would have a good case for unfair dismissal (or whatever it's called).

I'm sure it will be different if there is a conviction.

these was a conviction in my friends case.

Scotland has great laws protecting victims of abuse.. 🌸

PurpleDaisies · 13/08/2021 17:20

you didn't Report it.. you there is no proof .. correct

Is this in code?

QueenBee52 · 13/08/2021 17:21