Could you be in a relationship with an anti-vaxxer?

[Anon778833]

Or someone who thinks Covid doesn't exist?

YANBU = no

YABU = yes

No, I couldn’t, because people who deny covid or can’t see the need for vaccines are very misguided and illogical.

Not only that but you cannot reason with them, in my experience. That tells me they either aren’t very intelligent or have some other serious mental illness which I’d find difficult to overlook.

However, if they have genuine concerns that weren’t based on misinformation or conspiracy theories, then yes, but I’d tell them to speak to a medical professional about it.

No, because I don't understand why anyone could think that the vaccine isn't needed. I know people who have died from covid and every reason not to have the vaccine makes no sense to me.

I'd spend our whole relationship waiting for them to put shit memes on Facebook and chat shit about Bill Gates/5g.

@TableFlowerss

*My 25 year old extremely healthy brother died of Covid. As did my parents and grandmother. The point of the vaccine is not that you might be ok if you catch it, it’s to help others*

@Maddiemademe

I’m sorry to hear about your family members. Seems very unlucky to lose a healthy 25 year old and 2 parents that couldn’t have have been much older than 60.

No, just some areas have had higher cases than others.

I think it's wonderful that some people have come through this unscathed, families intact. I can understand why, if you hadn't been robbed of the years or even decades you expected to be able to spend with a loved one, the restrictions and rhetoric seem heavy handed. If you haven't been hit as hard as some families, then your great good fortune is a genuinely wonderful thing.

I live in a harder hit area. My friends and family have lost parents, grandparents, siblings, you name it. Some have survived with damage. A friend of mine lost a leg due to the clots while he was intubated last year -- he has some words for people who keep spewing the "survival rate" statistic. We know each other through a sport he'll never play again.

Unlucky? Maybe. I think it's probably more down to the way the pandemic ripped through some areas early on, when there were no effective vaccines and treatments were evolving.

Not someone who refused all vaccines and didn’t want our children to have them.

If they had a specific concern about the covid vaccine, it would probably be ok, but would have to spend a significant period away from me as I’m pregnant and also have vulnerable relatives. I’d be reluctant to have a relationship, but would consider it.

No. I only know 1 anti vaxxer IRL and she is a bit nuts..most people I know who were initially sceptical about the vaccine have gotten their jabs so I wouldn't classify them as anti vaxxers. So if someone was concerned about the vaccine, that wouldn't make them an anti vaxxer and I would be ok with it. It's the conspiracy theories that bother me.

NO they are a danger to themselves and all others in the same breathing space (eventually given enough repeated viral load infection from evolved mutations).

You should all get as worked up over climate change as that’s going to hit us from every which way in the coming years by the sounds of it
I've found that it's generally the same people. The tin foil crowd don't believe in that either.

The fact that a person is an ‘anti-vaxxer’ would indicate a lack of intellectual capacity, scientific literacy & critical thinking ability which would preclude me having a relationship of equals with them
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I'm always going to go with science v YouTube and anyone who can't understand the differences isn't someone I'd be able to relate to.

Not all 'opinions' are worth listening to. I'm going with the epidemiologists, the virologists etc etc over someone who studied at the University of Facebook

As long as they don't bang on and on all the time about conspiracy theories
Or use the terms sheeple, global elite, illuminati, new world order or scamdemic.
Just no to that conversation. Just no. No thank you.

@CJsGoldfish

You should all get as worked up over climate change as that’s going to hit us from every which way in the coming years by the sounds of it I've found that it's generally the same people. The tin foil crowd don't believe in that either.

The fact that a person is an ‘anti-vaxxer’ would indicate a lack of intellectual capacity, scientific literacy & critical thinking ability which would preclude me having a relationship of equals with them
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I'm always going to go with science v YouTube and anyone who can't understand the differences isn't someone I'd be able to relate to.

Not all 'opinions' are worth listening to. I'm going with the epidemiologists, the virologists etc etc over someone who studied at the University of Facebook

Interestingly the people I know who don’t want the vaccine have been passionate about the environment for a very long time, not the sort that get their three kids to make lots of placards and drive to environmental March in their SUV, but have not had kids, have simple clothes which last for years, don’t buy pointless shit and look after their bodies (minds and souls) and have a very close connection to nature.

I would say that there are equally intelligent and intellectually lazy people on both sides. Not every one having the jab will have carefully weighed up scientific and other advice, not everyone not wanting the jab is some sort of stupid person who gets their info off face book. Many are highly intelligent people who have weighed up what is right for them. Maybe it would be better to divert resources to 3rd world countries to ensure everyone who is vulnerable there gets jabbed first before insisting every man and his dog gets vaccinated here first. I don’t think that’s a stupid idea at all.

No because they're probably exceedingly dim on other aspects of life too!

@AlwaysLatte

No because they're probably exceedingly dim on other aspects of life too!

You would assume that but I actually have a close friend who is extremely intelligent and is in the medical profession. Couldn’t get any smarter i thought yet she follows a different vaccination schedule to the nhs advised one, and has declined a couple of specific ones yet told me in her professional capacity she has to maintain a 100% supportive attitude and not speak of her personal views etc 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Someone who was hesitant, maybe. But a full on anti-vaxxer? No. I couldn’t respect them and, based on the people I know who are anti-vaxxers, I associate that viewpoint with them being quite a damaged person.

No I fancy rationale men who can think.

No

Yes. This is the new Brexit and generally I think people's voting decisions and what they put in their own bodies is their own business!
That said, there are anti vaxxers who deny their kids the standard childhood immunisations and then claim their kids have never been unwell, as if that's justification for immunisations being unnecessary. With no hint of understanding that their kids are benefitting from herd immunity that we have all provided for them! That shit pisses me off and I'd not date a man who presented me with such a pov.
Generally, I think I'm live and let live.

No as I like intelligent people.

No

Yes because it's ridiculous to call someone an anti vaxxer because they have legitimate concerns about a vaccine that hasn't even had a full year of trials. And I say this as someone who has been vaxxed.

The narrative of anyone who doesn't agree with pro vaxxers is a looney is disgusting.

People are allowed to have different opinions. Now those crazy conspiracies like the vaccine is a mass sterilisation program or designed to turn us into aliens I have no time for. However asking for more trials, more long term evidence of its efficacy, and even asking why we need almost 100% compliance or even mandating the vaccine is perfectly reasonable in my view

No.

Not a real antivaxxer where if we had a child then they wouldn't want them receiving the childhood vaccinations. No way would I risk a baby catching whooping cough, DS had it in primary school and was fully vaccinated. If they just didn't want the covid jab for themselves then I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest.

Anti vaxxer yes.

Covid denialist no.

Unsure how the two are in any way equitable but I have answered the question in any case.

Like others an Anti Vaxxer who would refuse our children vaccines etc, thinks everything is a conspiracy - No.

Someone who doesnt want the flu vaccine etc then - Yes. I am not Kim Jong-un, I allow my partner to be in control of their own body. Mad really.

No and I left my partner of five years at Christmas because he was developing some really crazy ideologies surround the vaccine, covid and Donald trump

Someone who doesnt want the flu vaccine etc then - Yes. I am not Kim Jong-un, I allow my partner to be in control of their own body. Mad really.

Unless there was some compelling medical reason for them not to have it, no.