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To think gynaecologist was a bit harsh ? ***title edited to add a trigger warning for content that might affect those with eating disorders***

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Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 12:18

So basically I had my ds2 6 months ago and I'm EBF however my period returned 4 weeks ago and it was extremely heavy and then 2 weeks later I got another one

Having health anixtety this alarmed me
I've always had 28 day periods even after DS1 and never heavy so I wasn't expecting such issues nor for them to return so soon

My gp wasn't interested and said as I had a clear smear a month ago it would just be hormones settling down
However due to the health anixety I decided to see a gynaecologist privately

I explained the situation to gynaecologist and at first she was going down the I'm sure it's breastfeeding causing the issue
However I happened to say I've noticed this time I'm heavier than what I was with DS1 could this of contributed?

Now when I say I'm heavier I've always being slim and now I'm not my bmi is 25 so I think pushing overweight but I'm not huge

She glanced at me and looked to my stomach and said well yes you are holding Weight in your middle
She said it is probably making you realise more hormones etc
She went on to say I mean you could literally go 6 months without eating and be fine

By this point I was mortified and she started talking about problems from girls who hold weight around their middles

At this point I interjected and said I don't carry weight around my middle. I hold my weight around my hips and thighs, I've just not shifted all the baby weight yet

So she said well you must have developed insulin resistance because you have tummy fat now

Is it not normal to have a bit of excess fat 6 months after a c section?

I ended up having to show a picture of my pre pregnancy body to prove I do infact usually have a flat toned stomach

She asked if I had GD etc which I didn't
And then she did a scan

Cervix healthy .. womb healthy left ovary perfect but she said right ovary had a couple of follicles so it was trying to ovulate but when on to say my weight meant it polycystic

She also said I see you have a couple of hairs on your stomach so you probably have polycycstic ovary syndrome and you will be insulin resistant and told me to change my diet or I'd be diabetic type 2

Now prior to DS2 my bmi has always been around 21/22 .. I did get a couple of hairs on my tummy when pregnant but I am not hairy
I lose weight fairly easy.. I started gym this week and have lost almost half a stone so I feel il lose last baby weight fine

I have always had regular 28 day periods and conceived both my children on first month without contraception
I did not have GD and as part of a work up by my Gp in relation to another health condition
I categorically know I'm not pre diabetic or insulin resistance my sugars are fine ( needed to know for steroids I have to take)

I asked again at end of appointment if I have PCOS and she said not as such but I have problem induced by my weight it should resolve

I thought pcos was life long ? Also I've had scans on ovaries before and I've never had a few follicles

Do you think I'm being ridiculous to be upset by this manner ?
I basically feel like i look like a fat disgusting beast now
Does it should like I have Pcos ?
Also the smallest part of my body is my waist the fat on my tummy is like a little bit over my c section scar does this sound like I have a problem with my middle ?

Quite devastated with how repulsive this person felt I looked , thought I was doing OK for having had little one 6 months ago

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Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 15:45

@Pickle2828 where did I say women with pcos are fat hairy beasts ?
I know women with pcos none of them are any of those things but PCOS have caused them issues which I haven't experienced

The way the gynaecologist stated I must be insulin resistant had stomach fat and called my belly hairy made me feel this was her opinion of Me
She really wasn't pleasant to me

If I had being 25 stone and went there with weight issues hair issues etc I still wouldn't of liked to have been made to feel awful for such issues...

I' also said how bloody grateful I am to have conceived easily, personally I have friends and family who haven't and one of these friends does have pcos and it has annoyed me immensely on her behalf when they've fobbed her off by telling telling to lose weight so I'm sorry if my post came across that I think that
I don't

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Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 15:50

@PaleGreenGhost
That Is horrible and so ignorant
Goodness knows what that supposed professional would say about my oldest ds him and I are like chalk and cheese colouring wise etc

This is a good point
I did have a friend studying medicine whilst at university and I frequently used to tell him I worried for his future patients ( he was so blunt and also had little empathy )
Unlike me , I am far too sensitive and a week in such a job would probably give me a breakdown

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Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 15:51

@sergeilavrov this is why I'm thinking of complaining or at least some kind of feedback

I keep thinking imagine a young girl hearing such a comment and it triggering a issue

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Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 15:54

@Pickle2828
Also I'm not particularly the most healthy women I have a long term chronic issue myself which causes a whole host of issues so I'm very sorry if my post came across this way

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WorraLiberty · 08/08/2021 15:55

[quote LadyInParis]**@WorraLiberty

@WorraLiberty I’m really shocked particularly, by your posts on this thread. From what I have seen of your many replies- help and reasonable advice over the years on here- you are usually so very reasonable and kind. Perhaps blunt at times only to be helpful- but never this cruel.

What exactly have I said that's cruel?

That the OP should think carefully about the exact words the gynecologist used and then write a formal complaint, based on what she did say, rather than how the OP has interpreted it?

Such as the gynecologist thought she looked 'fat and repulsive' etc?

But that isn’t what you said, is it? And you well know that. Because what you just now said reads perfectly logical and fair, reasonable and not at all cruel. But your other posts made me cringe for the op. As I said; there are ways of saying things. And that’s not at all how you spoke to the op- as you well know Hmm[/quote]
I've advised the OP on at least 3 occasions to complain, but to think very carefully about what was actually said to her, instead of some of the hyperbolic things she has said here.

If you don't like that @LadyInParis, I couldn't give a shiny shit.

And until you're officially given the job of thread monitor, rather than this weird self-appointed role, I'll continue to not give a shit what you think.

So perhaps you can choose someone else's posts to go through with your big red Headmistress's pen...

LadyInParis · 08/08/2021 15:57

@Pickle2828

Wow it certainly sounds like you are calling women with PCOS or tummy fat ‘fat disgusting beasts’. YABVU

With regard to what the gynaecologist said, sure her bedside manner is lacking but really it sounds like your health anxiety —and nastiness towards less fortunate or healthy women— are the main issues.

That’s not what the op said. She said the gynaecologist made her feel that way.

Can people not gaslight and twist wording to someone feeling vulnerable please? It’s not clever or kind

WinglessSonglessBird · 08/08/2021 16:03

@Branleuse

Some people are really gaslighting the OP
YES some of these comments are very gaslighting.Angry Ignore them. They must be vindictive, cruel, like to feel better by putting people down. Maybe just having a bad day, but still, no excuse.

and to dismiss op as lying cuz she has mental health struggles (the ED, health anxiety she mentioned) is further gaslighting, which also tells me some people like to use mental health issues to further silence someone and appear superior. Like, "oh, well she's just crazy so obviously we have a license to say she's lying all the time, her emotions, thoughts, fears are invalid, and any abuse or cruelty is ok cuz she is a subhuman "crazy" person.

Ya, ignore them; it is THEIR issue. Same with the awful dr; sounds like SHE has some severe internal issues.

And YES there are MANY terrible health "professionals" around. They say extremely rude, cruel things and should not be placated with "well, they were just blunt or you took it wrong."

And why the dr wouldn't do the scans if in her mind she was sooo sure it was weight which caused pcos. It doesn't matter if the dr was just too blunt, had a bad day, etc...that dr is/should be responsible for her reactions even if the op was hysterical and crying, screaming the whole time, which she wasn't.

Seems another case of dismissing someone cuz they have or have had mental health struggles, for one thing.

drs like this are the reason MANY people, the world over, are quickly retreating from "modern" medicine/healthcare. The chemicals make you more sick half the time and drs think they are God, never wrong, never to be questioned, allowed to spew insults and cruel judgment. I literally boycott 98% of anything from the big pharma medical mafia.

Also, that dr's comment about you could starve for 6 months. Besides being cruel (and that is cruel, not just blunt), it isn't true because there are many factors that contribute to how long someone would survive without food, anyway. And the op wasn't morbidly obese anyway! The average is 4-6 weeks, like 40-80 days or so. Hydration, other health conditions matter. It's thought an obese person could survive anywhere from 4-25 weeks, but again it depends, and usually people surviving longer are taking at least vitamins and water. You can die of starvation while being fat. Starvation affects your organs and body systems! So the dr would rather her be thin but have a bunch of other health problems. Even if you did survive 6 months with no food, your body would be messed up, and would your mind; starvation affects your mind, too. But even if it was an undisputed medical fact that every single obese person could live 6months no food (which it isn't), it'd still be a messed up thing for a dr to say.

hell, I would've told her, so I shouldn't eat for 6 months. Ok. Are you gonna monitor my vital organs, systems etc during all this so that the starvation doesn't cause worse problems? I mean, maybe the dr meant to just eat less but for a dr to say you could go 6 months w/o eating. Dr should go to therapy, has unresolved issues herself but hides behind a superiority complex cuz has a MD. rolls eyes

Op, listen, I believe you that this dr was a shit dr. Others do too. The rest have their OWN issues and are trying to feel better by putting others down. F*%k em!

Don't go back to that dr. Complain about it if you'd like, though it might cause more stress and probably wouldn't even change that drs mind or how she treats people, tbh, unfortunately. I only once tried to make a complaint and I was literally shrugged off. They are gonna make it about your mental health struggles and think the dr is God. Sorry. It's angering and sad.

Just chalk it up to the fact that drs can be jerks like anyone and don't go back to that one if possible. And gaslighting people here; forget about it. Hope you recover nicely and I hope the eating disorder goes away, same with anxiety. Stay strong; don't let some gaslighting jerks and idiot, cruel drs bring you down! Smile

Orf1abc · 08/08/2021 16:11

Can people not gaslight and twist wording to someone feeling vulnerable please?

The OP seems intent on twisting what the gynae said.

nevergoesaway · 08/08/2021 16:16

@Orf1abc

Can people not gaslight and twist wording to someone feeling vulnerable please?

The OP seems intent on twisting what the gynae said.

Which bit is she twisting exactly, and what did the gyne actually say? 🤔
CaptSkippy · 08/08/2021 16:22

Really unprofessional of her. If she had concerns about you potentially having PCOS or diabetes she could have had you tested for that. Instead she just made asumptions based on your baby weight.

Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 16:22

@Orf1abc what did I twist?

Where you at the appointment

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BungleandGeorge · 08/08/2021 16:27

People are bringing their own agendas here which isn’t particularly helpful to OP. It’s fine to complain just because you left feeling terrible. Sometimes it’s just a mismatch in communication styles but if they receive numerous complaints I can guarantee a private company will just move on to using a different consultant instead. It doesn’t have to be an enormous written formal complaint if you don’t want. I’d think about what you want as an outcome- just to pass on feedback, an appointment with someone else, a copy of your written notes to see what she’s put in there.

whatthejiggeries · 08/08/2021 16:33

I would be quite happy if I had an honest consultation like that. I think your issue is that you don't want to hear facts

LadyInParis · 08/08/2021 16:35

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LadyInParis · 08/08/2021 16:38

@Orf1abc

The OP seems intent on twisting what the gynae said.

How on earth could you possibly know that!?

@nevergoesaway

Which bit is she twisting exactly, and what did the gyne actually say?

Oooh good question. Yes I’ll wait for the answer to this too.. Hmm

RaskolnikovsGarret · 08/08/2021 16:41

Agree with you, Lady in Paris. Too much uncalled for rudeness on this thread. I think OP is behaving in a very dignified way in the face of such unpleasantness. And people denying that they have been rude, when anyone would sense that from their posts. Not very nice at all.

Disneycharacter · 08/08/2021 16:46

well that didn't do your health anxiety any good. You can't diagnose polycistic ovaries from looking at someones baby tummy. Stick to your GP - sounded far more sensible

Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 17:02

@LadyInParis thank you for your posts

I'm amazed at how many of these people must of been In my appointment with me

I did say in several posts I seen consultants probably more than most and I've came across some blunt consultants but never what I experienced at that gynaecology appointment

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Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 17:05

@whatthejiggeries

Ah ok your right
Someone with a bmi of 25 ( actually now 24.3) checked today

Should stop eating for 6 months and yes I'm certainly one cupcake away from diabetes and insulin resistance

The medical professionals who looked after me whilst I was pregnant must of all been under qualified idiots to not think I was at risk of GD

And the rheumatologist who ordered did blood work which checked sugars and sorts must of also been incompetent not to realise I have such a severe weight problem....

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CoalTit · 08/08/2021 17:14

I hope you do complain, OP. Telling someone they could go for six months without eating is a very irresponsible thing for a medical practitioner to do, not to mention disrespectful and unprofessional.

nevergoesaway · 08/08/2021 17:42

@LadyInParis I don’t think we’re going to get an answer!…

I just wanted to tell you your posts on this thread are fantastic, so articulate and reasonable and I completely agree with you. Some people have been so condescending and unnecessarily mean to the op.

YarnOver · 08/08/2021 18:07

As a total aside and unrelated to the OP as I've never seen you. You actually can live for 6 months without eating. Try having Inflammatory bowel disease. It's not pleasant and I wouldn't recommend it but I'm not dead yet

Vallmo47 · 08/08/2021 18:14

@Boysandme269 I’m glad you’re going to speak to your other half later, I hope he’s able to reassure you that you are lovely as you are!
If you ever do look around (and I’m sure we all do, not all of us judging), you will see you are very much normal, if not slimmer than most.
Don’t let anyone get to you.

Boysandme269 · 08/08/2021 18:18

@BlueSurfer I just re read .. to update I have checked today my bmi is 24.3 .. my baby had been turned 6 months on that appointment

I'm glad to hear you've had 4 pregnancies didnt gain a pound and lost it the day the babies came out your stomach well-done that's absolutely awesome

I actually have a condition that does sometimes flare and affect mobility which I'm on steroids for so I'm not making any kind of excuse

Bmi 25 is boredline .. not a weight problem ... not like that was my bmi 6 years after childbirth

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