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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask why you haven't/won't have the covid vaccine?

338 replies

shuz1980 · 07/08/2021 22:21

Is it because your an anti vaxxer? Concerned about long term side effects?

OP posts:
JesusIsAnyNameFree · 08/08/2021 00:51

[quote XenoBitch]@JesusIsAnyNameFree - I never used Lisa Shaw's death as a reason to no have the vaccine. RTFT.[/quote]
You are telling people to look her up, why, if not to try and use her fate as a bad excuse to not have the vaccine? Hmm

Snoozer11 · 08/08/2021 00:52

@Dreamstate

Erm its a personal choice, you have no riut to know why someone doesn't want to inject something into their body.

Do you go round asking smokers why they still smoke? Or why people eat junk food when its not good for their bodies?

Oh yeah its none of your business thats why!

Biscuit

Touched a nerve.
XenoBitch · 08/08/2021 00:54

@JesusIsAnyNameFree the point of me saying to look her up to was to prove that the vaccine is not 100% safe.... and yes, I am aware that nothing in life is. Don't tell people that that vaccine is 100% safe, because it isn't. Covid, vaccine, whatever.. take your chances I don't care. Your body, your choice.

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 08/08/2021 00:57

[quote XenoBitch]@JesusIsAnyNameFree the point of me saying to look her up to was to prove that the vaccine is not 100% safe.... and yes, I am aware that nothing in life is. Don't tell people that that vaccine is 100% safe, because it isn't. Covid, vaccine, whatever.. take your chances I don't care. Your body, your choice.[/quote]
Everyone knows that. One thing that really doesn't need to be trotted out as proof of the vaccine not being completely safe, is the risk of blood clots, seeing as you are up to 10 times more likely to get one from having covid. Not that I think you understand that.

SaharaFlower · 08/08/2021 00:58

"Everyone knows that. One thing that really doesn't need to be trotted out as proof of the vaccine not being completely safe, is the risk of blood clots, seeing as you are up to 10 times more likely to get one from having covid. Not that I think you understand that."

Or that's the claim

Snoozer11 · 08/08/2021 01:00

@shuz1980

I won't give into the pressure. I have my reasons and they should be respected but I don't feel they are. Just today alone I've had a call AND a text from my dr's informing me of walk in sessions for the vaccine. Today i have heard people are being bribed with things to get the vaccine. *@SupermanWithTheGreyHair im due Dec. Im breastfeeding baby so still won't be having vaccine. @XenoBitch*, it's ok. My brother 'can't believe' I don't want the vaccine and thinks im just an 'anti vaxxer'. It sad that you've lost a friend over it. I just don't understand why people can't respect other's decisions not to have it.
You're feelings aren't respected because they are not worthy of respect.
XenoBitch · 08/08/2021 01:00

Everyone knows that. One thing that really doesn't need to be trotted out as proof of the vaccine not being completely safe, is the risk of blood clots, seeing as you are up to 10 times more likely to get one from having covid. Not that I think you understand that.

Well, it depends on why an individual is not having the vaccine, eh. You can literally post me documents of the science behind it all and it wont matter a jot.

XenoBitch · 08/08/2021 01:02

@Snoozer11 - do you know the OP? I don't think they really care what you think tbh.

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Nightgardenisodd · 08/08/2021 01:07

I had covid in March 2020 and have mcas and long covid symptoms since then, I’m on daily antihistamines as my body reacts to allsorts now when it never did before, I can’t drink alcohol, coffee, high histamine foods without a strong and scary reaction. My body is completely messed up. I still suffer some soreness/pain in my heart and chest area. I’m petrified to get covid again, but I’m also petrified to get the vaccine and react badly. If I hadn’t been through all this, I would have had it ages ago. Really not sure what to do and the pressure and others opinions about being selfish etc, make it even worse. I think people need to stop judging and understand why people might be hesitant, for a whole host of reasons. Im not being selfish, I have a toddler Dd who needs me and I’m scared due to the way my health has been for the last 17 months.

Nightgardenisodd · 08/08/2021 01:08

@Snoozer11 So would you say I was selfish too?

XenoBitch · 08/08/2021 01:10

@Nightgardenisodd

I had covid in March 2020 and have mcas and long covid symptoms since then, I’m on daily antihistamines as my body reacts to allsorts now when it never did before, I can’t drink alcohol, coffee, high histamine foods without a strong and scary reaction. My body is completely messed up. I still suffer some soreness/pain in my heart and chest area. I’m petrified to get covid again, but I’m also petrified to get the vaccine and react badly. If I hadn’t been through all this, I would have had it ages ago. Really not sure what to do and the pressure and others opinions about being selfish etc, make it even worse. I think people need to stop judging and understand why people might be hesitant, for a whole host of reasons. Im not being selfish, I have a toddler Dd who needs me and I’m scared due to the way my health has been for the last 17 months.
That sounds horrid. Anyone who would try and judge you for your decision about the vaccine in a knob tbh. I wish you well and peace with whatever you decide.
SaharaFlower · 08/08/2021 01:10

Why are some so nasty about the choices of others? Truly, the most anti-vaccine are those who want to control people because they don't trust what they've had.

Happymum12345 · 08/08/2021 01:12

I don’t respect anyone’s decision not to have the vaccine unless medically unable to. It’s utterly selfish on the rest of the general public as it increases variants & vulnerable peoples death. Reasons like ‘I’m needle phobic’ make me laugh-if you get covid & are admitted to hospital, you’ll no doubt experience quite a few needles and that will be the least of your problems.

XenoBitch · 08/08/2021 01:13

@Snoozer11 I was decent and educated... would have possibly treated your relatives in theatres. But yeah, call me abhorrent if it makes you feel real big and good. That is more abhorrent tbh.

PurpleOkapi · 08/08/2021 01:15

When you breathe, droplets will land on surfaces and that will be an additional vector of transmission. Doesn't matter how close you get to someone.

If you actually believe that physical distance or even being in the same has no impact on spread, you really ought not to be calling other people fucking idiots. Maybe do the teensiest bit of research on the disease you're so worried about. If you want to make up nonsense and then demand that others accommodate your completely fictitious perception of risks, I can't stop you, but I don't have to pretend that your entitled delusions have any basis in fact.

What if you take ill and need an ambulance or a paramedic? I hope you're not arrogant enough to seek that help should you need it.

If I were a paramedic or an ambulance driver or worked in any other capacity where exposure was a certainty, I'd be much more likely to do it despite the side effects. If someone working in that capacity chooses not to get vaccinated, it's their own fault when the obvious happens. Do you believe everyone whose medical conditions are attributable to their own choices is "arrogant" if they choose to seek care rather than die at home, or only covid patients? Does that apply to smokers? The obese? Pregnancy? Or just covid, because only covid hurts your feelings?

PurpleOkapi · 08/08/2021 01:15

*same room

XenoBitch · 08/08/2021 01:15

@Happymum12345

I don’t respect anyone’s decision not to have the vaccine unless medically unable to. It’s utterly selfish on the rest of the general public as it increases variants & vulnerable peoples death. Reasons like ‘I’m needle phobic’ make me laugh-if you get covid & are admitted to hospital, you’ll no doubt experience quite a few needles and that will be the least of your problems.
Needle phobia is a spectrum.. on the one end you have the folk who laugh nervously and shy away.. and then the fainters... and then me, who is a fighter or who self harms and not realises it.
PurpleOkapi · 08/08/2021 01:20

It's people like the you and the OP who are risking the lives of my loved ones.

The only person risking the lives of your loved ones is them and you, by being around people whose covid status you can't be arsed to verify. If you weren't doing that, you'd have no reason to care about anyone's vaccination status. Why should someone who's doing fuck-all to protect their own health expect others to do all the work for them?

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 08/08/2021 01:21

@PurpleOkapi

It's people like the you and the OP who are risking the lives of my loved ones.

The only person risking the lives of your loved ones is them and you, by being around people whose covid status you can't be arsed to verify. If you weren't doing that, you'd have no reason to care about anyone's vaccination status. Why should someone who's doing fuck-all to protect their own health expect others to do all the work for them?

Oh fuck off. People have to work. The people working in Tesco's don't deserve to get covid because you don't want the vaccine. Fucking idiot.
SaharaFlower · 08/08/2021 01:23

Snoozer11: Why don't you stay in and turn off the news sites?

SaharaFlower · 08/08/2021 01:24

People working in Tesco can have the vaccine, if wanted. That's the problem solved.

Snoozer11 · 08/08/2021 01:27

@PurpleOkapi

It's people like the you and the OP who are risking the lives of my loved ones.

The only person risking the lives of your loved ones is them and you, by being around people whose covid status you can't be arsed to verify. If you weren't doing that, you'd have no reason to care about anyone's vaccination status. Why should someone who's doing fuck-all to protect their own health expect others to do all the work for them?

Jesus Christ. People need to shop, work and go to hospitals, dentists and doctors.

Although for some reason I don't imagine you work.

Snoozer11 · 08/08/2021 01:29

[quote Nightgardenisodd]@Snoozer11 So would you say I was selfish too?[/quote]
Of course I wouldn't judge anyone with a medical reason that's stopping them from being vaccinated.

But that's not the same as spouting bullshit about not getting close to people, not wanting to be in a queue, and talking about experimental vaccines.