To ask why you haven't/won't have the covid vaccine?

[shuz1980]

Is it because your an anti vaxxer? Concerned about long term side effects?

Why people have decided not to have the jab.
Why are people taking offence at this question there really issome mardy people on here. Op is just making convo.

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Because I'm going to wait a while before getting done.

I'm not a demented antivaxer, just rather hold off a bit.

Doesn't quite seem the miracle it was claimed does it?

Why don’t you think it is a miracle? The reduction in number of deaths and hospital cases since the vaccination programme started has been dramatic.

I hate to think what would have happened if so many hadn’t had the vaccinations as soon as they were available. DH worked on a Covid ward and has said he will never forget the ambulances arriving with more patients and hospitals having to convert every space they could into ICU’s.

@AtticusHoysAnus

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Because I'm going to wait a while before getting done.

I'm not a demented antivaxer, just rather hold off a bit.

Doesn't quite seem the miracle it was claimed does it?

And in that case, also wait a while before you take advantage of the relaxing of lockdown which has come about because other people have been vaccinated.

Doesn't quite seem the miracle it was claimed does it?

You what? who ever said it was a miracle. Bit over dramatic.

But it's positive forward steps.

You'd think some people actually want it to all go wrong.

@savvy7

For those of you who aren't having the vaccine, would you still attend hospital if you get seriously ill with COVID? Or do you not want to queue up at A&E?

I probably would, yes, in much the same way that a constant takeaway-eater would go to hospital with a heart attack, a smoker would go to hospital to be treated for lung cancer or whatever.

The difference is that I am making this decision (for now) because at this point I believe it to be a better decision for my health.

Cigarettes and greasy food aren't quite in that category but I doubt you or I would begrudge a hospital bed to someone suffering from the consequences of them.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/vaccines-have-prevented-84-000-deaths-phe-says-b950423.html

I probably would, yes, in much the same way that a constant takeaway-eater would go to hospital with a heart attack, a smoker would go to hospital to be treated for lung cancer or whatever.

Would never begrudge anyone a hospital bed. But I can't put my finger on why it would feel more annoying for someone who had refused the vaccine and caught Covid than someone who had made poor lifestyle choices.

Is there anyone that can articulate it for me?

@sunglassesonthetable Is it because if someone eats too much and makes themselves unwell because of it, they're not also potentially causing harm to the health of those around them, known or unknown? :)

I think most of us recognise changing out lifestyle is really hard and we don’t live perfectly healthily ourselves. For most people, getting a vaccination should be very quick and easy.

The only people I know who refused the vaccine are full on conspiracy theorists although Dd1 has yet to decide. I will fully respect her decision either way.

Concerned about lack of concrete evidence re. impact (or not) on fertility and pregnancy as I’m about to start TTC. Not an antivaxxer by any means, have had all other vaccinations as all that I’ve been old enough to consent to myself have been around long enough to allow me the evidence to make an informed decision. Not saying I’ll never get the COVID vaccine just not right now.

Is it because if someone eats too much and makes themselves unwell because of it, they're not also potentially causing harm to the health of those around them, known or unknown?

Well they do cost the taxpayer through the NHS a lot. And they add to waiting times for others.

I have a severe needle phobia too. I have had root canal surgery without any injections.

I have had both jabs and did not react well in the 15 minutes after either of them - I don't want to give details. However as responsible person who cares about my family, colleagues and wider society I did what every else is also doing and got vaccinated.

I personally don't think your excuse is valid.

She doesn't need an excuse. This is why people are defensive not because they know their choices are shit. It's because rude judgemental fuckers think they have a right to an opinion others' personal medical choices

And @DinkyDiggies I'm fully vaccinated but i completely agree with every word you posted.

Would never begrudge anyone a hospital bed. But I can't put my finger on why it would feel more annoying for someone who had refused the vaccine and caught Covid than someone who had made poor lifestyle choices.

Is there anyone that can articulate it for me

Yes. You've been subjected to months of very clever government propaganda aimed at shaming people who dont toe the party line

I'm double vaxxed but had terrible vertigo after each one.(AZ)

DH isn't an anti-vaxxer. He believes in vaccinations. He was fine with DD's vacc protocol because they have been used for decades. But he thinks these covid vaccs have been rushed out too quickly. So he's waiting another year or two for more research to be published, which I think is fair. His body, his choice.

@mummylondon16 I too have an autoimmune condition. I had the vaccine precisely because I have a blood clotting disorder (daily warfarin plus clexane when my blood decides that it still wants to clot). I figured that my risk of blood clots from covid were greater than my risk of blood clots from the vaccine.

But I do think it is personal choice.

@FatAnkles - Did your DH not realise that researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades - nothing new about it.
I wonder what would happen if we all decided to wait a year or two before having the vaccine?

Would never begrudge anyone a hospital bed. But I can't put my finger on why it would feel more annoying for someone who had refused the vaccine and caught Covid than someone who had made poor lifestyle choices.

Is there anyone that can articulate it for me?

I wonder if we have this sense that the choices are binary when it comes to vaccines? We either get every jab offered OR die a horrible death and be branded a terrible human being who doesn't care about our community. (I'm exaggerating to make the point).

When Covid first came to our attention I was honestly waiting for a call for healthy volunteers to be exposed/quarantined in order to better understand the virus, the disease process, and whether immunity was possible.

When it never happened, and when no-one was routinely offered antibody tests it seemed pretty clear to me that it would become less about understanding who is actually immune, and all about hyping/pushing whatever vaccine(s) came to market.

Unsurprisingly, here we are.

@SarahTTCx

YABU.

What has it got to do with you? Do you ask people who don't have the flu jab why and want more information? Everyone has a right to decide what goes into their body. I've personally had it, but I couldn't care less whether anyone else has or not. And honestly I only had it because I felt guilt tripped into it and wish I hadn't. I'm a young, fit, healthy 25 year old whos body would be able to build up its own immunity if I were to catch covid. I wish i'd left it to that personally.

So basically, focus on yourself and keep your nose out of other peoples business

Pretty much all that except CEV aged 50!

Yes. You've been subjected to months of very clever government propaganda aimed at shaming people who dont toe the party line

@PopcornMuncher

Nope . I wish I actually thought our government was "very clever". Imagine them being able to sort out something like that. 🙄

For those concerned about fertility and pregnancy, I have a couple of sites where you can look for latest info:

www.rcog.org.uk/en/news/

www.britishfertilitysociety.org.uk/ - if you scroll down there is an updated FAQs on covid vaccs & fertility, from end July

Would never begrudge anyone a hospital bed. But I can't put my finger on why it would feel more annoying for someone who had refused the vaccine and caught Covid than someone who had made poor lifestyle choices.

No, that makes no sense to me. You are less annoyed by people who need medical attention because they’ve ate crap and not exercised, going against every bit of advice that we’re given. As a pp said, the government and media have done a good job of getting people to turn on each other....as usual. Same shit, different topic.

Thankfully the NHS doesn’t discriminate regardless of causes anyway.

Also this:
www.rcm.org.uk/media-releases/2021/january/statement-from-rcm-and-rcog-on-covid-19-vaccinations-fertility-and-pregnancy/

And this tackles a specific concern:
www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210112/why-covid-vaccines-are-falsely-linked-to-infertility

I don't have statistics but the biggest pressure on the NHS is people who are over weight as that also leads to diabetes and is killing the NHS dead. So eating half the calories a day many people eat is probably going to benefit the NHS more than if I go for my jabs (not that I am saying it is easier to eat much less - I could do with losing a stone myself too).