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Boyfriend foul language to dc

297 replies

Whatname2021 · 03/08/2021 12:08

hi
Will keep brief. I am so mad and upset, feel like ending contact but would like your thoughts.

Boyfriend of 18months, recently introduced to do 7 and 5. Home after day out, kids had been little difficult in previous few days. Something happened that frightened dc as he wasn't expecting it, the act itself was not bad, just happened to frighten dc. Dc started to cry and came to me upset. Could see Boyfriend mouth Something in anger, but I didn't hear. My other dc then immediately said, Boyfriend called dc a whingey . I was absolutely floored, dc that it was about didn't hear what was said but looked at me with a Terrible upset face and asked what did Boyfriend call me? I was so angry and upset but didn't want to cause upset in front of dc.

Werr staying at Boyfriend house that evening, there was obvious tension but he didn't say anything or apologise. When kids in bed i brought it up and expressed my feelings, he said he was so sorry and it just came out, he is finding it challenging at times.

I cannot shake what feels like an attack on my dc and my instinct is to protect them. I feel like ending relationship.

What would be your thoughts? This is a one off but I have sensed difficulty/ strain for a while

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bakinbiscuits · 03/08/2021 16:01

@vomcomvomcom

I really think you’re overreacting! Maybe your children are not pleasant to be around. It was a mistake, he’s apologised. You can’t pretend everyone will think your kids are as perfect as you do, that’s not real life! I would have been frustrated if a little kid was faffing about getting in or out of the car. Do you not instruct them what to do or how to stay safe?
Seriously?! My children can be unpleasant to be around at times. In no way does that justify an adult calling them names!
ohthatbloodycat · 03/08/2021 16:02

OP, I have a friend who's a neurosurgeon. He says that too often, his job involves patching up kids who've borne the brunt of their stepfather's anger.
I am not saying that your situation would ever end up as severe as this. But I can tell you that it is NOT going to get any better.

MrsWhites · 03/08/2021 16:15

@LuxOlente

Do not bring "boyfriends" into your children's home. Just don't. Don't let them meet these men. They come into their homes, they dislike them, they abuse them.

Dating is for you. Do whatever. But protect them from it and don't bring strange, sweary, sexist, horn-beeping men into their life.

Jesus, I’m sure he wasn’t walking around with a sandwich board around his neck saying ‘I’m a absolute bastard who will call your kid a whore’. Single parents meet people to date, they judge that person on their suitability to meet their children based on what they know about that person at that time. When the OP introduced him to her children I’m sure she didn’t think he would treat them this way.

She is suitably angry that he spoke to her child in that way and is prepared to end the relationship to protect her kids. Absolutely no need to give her a hard time.

OP, I agree with others - every kid can be hard work/annoying at times but there is no excuse to call a child a whore! It’s the biggest red flag I’ve ever heard of anyone waving about, you are absolutely right to protect your child from this sort of behaviour!

quizqueen · 03/08/2021 16:34

He doesn't sound like he'll have much tolerance for your children, going forward. Maybe one more chance but be prepared to end it.

SunshineCake · 03/08/2021 16:42

You didn't do this. He did. If you had continued to have him around your children you would be wrong but if you have finished things you've done nothing wrong.

Whatname2021 · 03/08/2021 16:42

He has gone above and beyond to do things for us arrange days out etc but I have seen he has not found it easy at times, as do I. My children are extremely clingy to me and demand alot of me . I can understand being frustrated and saying something, but not something so vile, then not immediately apologising and not bringing it up

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Monday26July · 03/08/2021 16:50

@Whatname2021

He has gone above and beyond to do things for us arrange days out etc but I have seen he has not found it easy at times, as do I. My children are extremely clingy to me and demand alot of me . I can understand being frustrated and saying something, but not something so vile, then not immediately apologising and not bringing it up
Er, you shouldn’t be so quick to jump to saying you understand him saying something either FFS. This man is supposed to be seeing whether you can blend as a family and on his best behaviour getting to know your children.

You’re not compatible. If you so much as spend another minute with this man in person then YAB massively U and I really worry about your kids. You can end it via telephone, I wouldn’t want to be around him in person for fear of his reaction if he’s the sort to call a fucking child a whore.

Can’t believe you’re even asking any of this, any at all. If someone breathed a word of nastiness to my son that’d be an automatic disqualification from our lives, no discussion needed. Please think of your kids if this is real.

LuaDipa · 03/08/2021 17:17

Your kids are age 7 and 5. They can’t help being clingy and demanding at times. Your boyfriend has no such excuse. You said yourself you have not long introduced them as his patience is already wearing thin. He is not the one for you and your dc will become even more clingy and insecure if you stay with someone who deliberately scares them and calls them names.

What’s done is done, don’t beat yourself up. Just leave the relationship and ensure that it stops now.

CanofCant · 03/08/2021 17:19

Could your children be clingy and demand a lot from you due to the break up from their father and whatever unpleasant things they might have witnessed from him? Surely your boyfriend should be able to understand this?

Tempusfudgeit · 03/08/2021 17:21

This is the most heartfelt LTB ever. Please. Don't do this to them.

IonaLeg · 03/08/2021 17:24

Don’t give him a second opportunity to abuse your children. You all deserve better Flowers

Rainbowshine · 03/08/2021 17:31

Is that what he says? He describes them as clingy and demanding? I don’t know many 5 and 7 year olds that aren’t, especially after this last year of schools shutting etc, and your children also more so given that they experienced you being abused. I would worry this is a sign of possessive jealousy that your children take your attention and energy rather than him getting that.

I’m glad you’re not going to continue with him, he will try and minimise things and tell you that you’re overreacting so be prepared for that.

EverdeRose · 03/08/2021 18:10

If you were at his you should have put their coats on and gone home.
That would be the end of it for me.

ChargingBuck · 03/08/2021 18:20

@vomcomvomcom

I really think you’re overreacting! Maybe your children are not pleasant to be around. It was a mistake, he’s apologised. You can’t pretend everyone will think your kids are as perfect as you do, that’s not real life! I would have been frustrated if a little kid was faffing about getting in or out of the car. Do you not instruct them what to do or how to stay safe?
You're missing the point Vom.

If you frightened a 5 year old child, would your first reaction be anger?
Or would it be concern, shame, & a desire to put the little one back at ease?

This pillock lost his cool, & isn't the slightest bit worried about the fact that he scared a very small child. If you think that's ok because kids are sometimes frustrating, maybe YOU should go out with OP's ex. You can fuck your kids up together, won't that be fun?
After all, kids are so often not pleasant to be around, so that's ok then.

ChargingBuck · 03/08/2021 18:27

@EverdeRose

If you were at his you should have put their coats on and gone home. That would be the end of it for me.
RTFT

His place is rural, & OP had no way of getting home.
OP did well to minimise the amount of distress already caused to her children, & got them home as soon as she could without escalating drama.

I call that good instincts & a cool head.

And it is the end of it for her. She hasn't communicated with the dickhead since the incident, & isn't going to be seeing him any more, so judgemental, sanctimonious comments are uncalled for.

OhGiveUp · 03/08/2021 18:37

Are you waiting for him to start physically abusing them or worse OP?
You put a man like that before your kids and you seriously need to ask the question?
What have your kids done to deserve having a nasty piece like him in their lives?

Whatname2021 · 03/08/2021 18:53

ChargingBuck thank you. That's exactly right

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Whatname2021 · 03/08/2021 18:54

OhGiveUp how have I put him before my children?

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OhGiveUp · 03/08/2021 18:58

@Whatname2021 Because you stated that you feel like ending it with him, rather than you have ended it with him.
That's a pretty strong indicator that you are still with him, hence putting him before your kids.

GabriellaMontez · 03/08/2021 19:05

I totally understand why you didn't leave immediately.

You aren't responsible for his behaviour and have nothing to be ashamed of.

You now have time to reflect on what happened and how things should progress.

Unless he has approached you today to ask to apologise to the children personally, I wouldn't even consider any future contact.

IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 03/08/2021 19:23

Is he now your ex?

Taliskerskye · 03/08/2021 19:24

Op
Seriously ring women’s aid, it doesn’t have to be about a current circumstance.
You need to talk to a professional ASAP

Graphista · 03/08/2021 19:34

I think that it's the attitude he had that's most concerning.

The language is completely unacceptable but more importantly this incident has illustrated that he hasn't the patience or kindness or understanding of how young children are to be anywhere near a parental role to them.

Similar to pps I'd have dumped and walked with the kids then and there and been very clear about why and that I wanted NOTHING more to do with him.

Children this age ARE energetic and require a lot of attention and patience.

That you also don't seem to understand this concerns me too op.

I think before you even CONSIDER dating again you have a lot of work to do on your own stuff including this unreasonable expectation of calmer behaviour from children this age.

that he had a moment where he blurted something out without any thought

NO SPEECH IS NOT INVOLUNTARY

And his attitude most definitely isn't! This is who he is stop making excuses or believing his

and he beeped on purpose, I do not know why

Jesus that makes him worse!

Illegal and cruel!

That's a nasty thing to do to a small kid!

no access to transport in a rural area

Not even a taxi?! Call one from nearest town?

At the very least the appropriate and correct thing to do would have been to leave first thing the following morning.

I am home since yesterday morning, no contact since

Have you actually told him the relationship is over though?

The beeping a five year old would be a dumping offence on its own.

Totally agree. That op doesn't think this was "that bad" shows just how skewed her boundaries and thinking is.

you may be better off asking opinions more locally of good local friends

I think that's terrible advice because in all likelihood they will know this man and make excuses for him too. Here is may be harsh but objective.

@Louise5754 that's an appalling and illegal thing to do. Please stop.

@Zilla1 this was not a one issue incident, there are at least 3 issues here:

Beeping the horn unnecessarily to alarm a small child

Calling that small child a vile name (regardless of cultural differences still a vile name) in response to the child reacting exactly as most kids that age would!

Not INSTANTLY apologising to the dc for his behaviour

This is a pattern of non child friendly behaviour at a point in the relationship when as most pps have said he should/will be on best behaviour

Op has also mentioned that she's notice increasing tension anyway

Sorry I just remembered he beeped because dc left the car door open and he couldn't pull into driveway. Beeped to say close door

Still not a good enough reason to beep! Kids leave doors open that's normal, you get out the car and close it yourself or call out the window to tell em to close it, you don't act like a bully!

He has gone above and beyond to do things for us arrange days out etc

Not what's important, easy to play the big man for praise/glory

My children are extremely clingy to me and demand alot of me

Totally normal given their age AND what they've previously been through plus current events also.

My dd is 20 and has left home and she is feeling insecure and lacking confidence in various areas due to the events of the past year which she seeks my reassurance and advice about.

Comments like this are what make me genuinely concerned that you also don't understand normal behaviour at this age. Have you any experience with caring for children of this age aside from your own dc? Sounds like you could benefit from parenting classes or other support around what is and isn't normal behaviour at this age.

That needs to be your focus just now, not being in a relationship.

Whatname2021 · 03/08/2021 19:50

Graphista I find your post offensive. Saying I don't understand that children are energetic and require attention. Of course I understand that, however when you parent alone 24/7 receive constant abuse from an ex who has very little involvement only to cause hassle, work full time, run a home, suffering illness from being run into the ground, I think I deserve to say at times it is all a bit challenging

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Whatname2021 · 03/08/2021 19:51

he has not contacted me or i him

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