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AIBU?

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AIBU to think that all men are a bit shit?

181 replies

Vitallyli · 25/07/2021 21:32

I love DH, he's intelligent, generous, loves me, our DS, our dog, my family, he's not a cheater, not a gambler, but he also has low self esteem, can get paranoid about me cheating, can get depressed, drinks more than I think is okay, we are in our mid 30s, can shout at me sometimes, doesn't help me around the house much would rather make me a massage. He tells me compliments daily though, boosted my self esteem after birth for which I'll be eternally grateful. I hope I paint a fair picture. AIBU to think that all men are flawed and there is no perfect relationships and women have to put up with one thing or another or is there a beautiful loving, caring and respectful relationships out there?

OP posts:
feelingmehtoday · 25/07/2021 22:04

@CrouchEndTiger12

Selfishness is huge though.

I have never met one who doesn't think if himself first middle and last

Selfishness is not a trait specific to men, though.

feelingmehtoday · 25/07/2021 22:05

This isn’t an ‘all men are shit’ problem, it’s a YOUR man is a bit shit problem

This

VladmirsPoutine · 25/07/2021 22:06

All humans are flawed. To err is to be human or whatever the saying is.

But wrt one of the happiest and most full filled women I have ever come across gave up dating and having relationships with men. (She's hetero so it's not that she switched sides, she just gave up on men entirely)

CrouchEndTiger12 · 25/07/2021 22:06

No selfishness isn't unique to men but I don't hear many men complaining their wives leaves them with the house and the kids and a full time job whilst the women fucks off playing golf every Saturday.

Aquamarine1029 · 25/07/2021 22:07

Sorry, op. Your husband is shit in my book. His flaws far outweigh his good points.

essentialhealing · 25/07/2021 22:07

I take it you're perfect op

Iwonder08 · 25/07/2021 22:08

All human are a bit shit, including you

DismantledKing · 25/07/2021 22:10

Another post blaming everyone else for the individual’s own life choices.

Chailatteplease · 25/07/2021 22:10

@CrouchEndTiger12

Selfishness is huge though.

I have never met one who doesn't think if himself first middle and last

Mine does, always puts me before himself. I’ll admit to being surprised by this though, don’t think it’s very common amongst either gender.
ZednotZee · 25/07/2021 22:10

Mine is a lazy, common, fat bastard.

But then I'm a conceited, high maintenance, neurotic bitch.

And he is good in bed so that obscures so many of my misgivings. Plus he is generous to a fault.
He smokes twenty fags a day but I drink four bottles of fizz a week.

I suppose its all dependent upon whether your flaws balance each other out.

Cheeseycheeseycheesecheese · 25/07/2021 22:11

Like many I'd say it goes both ways.
Dh spends too much time on his p
PC playing games, equally I spend too much time with my head buried in a book or mumsnet.

But we are a team, we work together to get stuff done, to bring up ds and to look after our pup.

Noone is perfect and everyone is a bit shit.

Comedycook · 25/07/2021 22:11

I read something that blew my mind once...It was

What makes a good wife? A good husband

So true

feelingmehtoday · 25/07/2021 22:11

@Chailatteplease

Same. My DP is one of the least selfish people I know. I would even consider myself more selfish than he is, tbh.

PiffleWiffleWoozle · 25/07/2021 22:13

YABU and I think this idea all men are shit acts as an excuse for some men to continue to be shit.

You don’t have to put up with shit behaviour no matter what sex they/you are.

You deserve better OP, and better is out there.

HalzTangz · 25/07/2021 22:14

Surely everyone has flaws, men and women.
Women will find things that annoy them in a relationship, but so will men.
It's natural to find different things annoying

Chailatteplease · 25/07/2021 22:14

[quote feelingmehtoday]@Chailatteplease

Same. My DP is one of the least selfish people I know. I would even consider myself more selfish than he is, tbh. [/quote]
I would too. He has made me less selfish; through wanting to give back I suppose, but I’m still more selfish than him.

Rubyupbeat · 25/07/2021 22:15

@OneGlamMama
I'll drink to the all men are shit

Soon to be divorcing as I've basically been a single mother since son was born.

So I take it your son is on the way to being shit too, then?

My Husband nor my sons are shit, no more than I am, tbh!

PicsInRed · 25/07/2021 22:16

I’m certainly not one of the #notallmen brigade but I think it’s a bit shit you’re dragging all of our fathers/brothers/partners/sons down to your DH’s level.

And this is why nothing will ever change - woman taking offence at the calling out of anti social men, simply because they have other men in their family.

dewisant2020 · 25/07/2021 22:18

I've never understand why woman constantly put men down, as a mother of a son I am mortified to think he's going to be constantly judged just because he's a man.
All humans are 'shit' to a degree, we all have flaws no matter what's between our legs.
I know some amazing men and some utterly terrible woman and vice a versa.

QueenPeary · 25/07/2021 22:19

But wrt one of the happiest and most full filled women I have ever come across gave up dating and having relationships with men. (She's hetero so it's not that she switched sides, she just gave up on men entirely)

That’s kind of where I am too. I put up with a lot of shit from my ex for a long time and it’s just so nice being single. I kind of miss men but I can’t be doing with trawling through loads of awful ones in search of a nice one. And there are a lot of awful ones. Selfish, misogynistic, lazy, smelly etc. Definitely not all and of course I’m not perfect myself, but when I hear about the horrors of OLD and see friends’ partners I just think, nah can’t be arsed.

Unfashionable · 25/07/2021 22:20

As my grandad always used to say, there was only ever one person who was perfect, and they crucified him.

Ratalie · 25/07/2021 22:22

Nobody is perfect, but men's imperfections often seem to be more socially acceptable...

QueenPeary · 25/07/2021 22:23

I do have a son and really try to teach him to be respectful and not a misogynist. I have known genuinely lovely men and I know it’s possible so I don’t write them all off, but by your 50s you can get a bit jaded :o

rubbletrouble · 25/07/2021 22:24

I have to agree, some men are shit, so yes, let's call out those men on their behaviour, not label them all the same.

My hubby is really quite good, that good, I might even keep him.
No, he is brilliant, so no, not all men are a bit shit, just some.

My brother is an amazing partner to his partner as well, so no not all

NHSmummy84 · 25/07/2021 22:24

Everyone has flaws. In a relationship, you just have to try to be with someone who has flaws that you can live with 😂