My DH believes the vaccine will result in mass genocide

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Im at my wits end. It's all he talks about.

He believes that covid has been over dramatised, masks are a waste of time and that the vaccine is going to kill millions of people over the next few years. He thinks it's a "depopulation" exercise and a way to control the masses. He said if I take the vaccine he will leave me.

He's been buying "survivalist" gear such as tents/ shovels/ emergency matches/ god knows what else. There's numerous packages arriving at the house every day. He's spent over a thousand pounds on this stuff.

Aibu to just be sick of the whole bloody thing??? I want to talk about something else, something normal but it all just comes back to this. What would you do?

He's even deleted Facebook/ WhatsApp because he thinks he'll be tracked.

Why anyone would want to track a middle aged man, who works from home and plays golf on a Sunday, escapes me. But, there we have it.

Sorry, I meant to answer, no we don't have kids. If we did, I'd probably have left.

When I think of leaving, I imagine him sitting on his own at his computer reading all these theories and getting deeper deeper into it. I don't want that :(

Sorry you're going through this OP. It sounds awful.
I do agree that perhaps contacting the doctor is a good idea considering he's never shown these tendencies before.
I hope you can get your husband back

@Needapoodle

Demented Crazy Nut job Off his rocker Deluded Dangerous

Isnt it lovely to see that discrimination against people with mental illness is alive and well on Mumsnet.

Disgusting isn't it. If derogatory terms like this were used to describe physical illness there would uproar. But it's OK in relation to mental illness, somehow. I hope MNHQ clamp down on this.

OP, I hope you’re able to get the vaccine without your DH finding out, just so you’re safe from Covid.

I also hope you get some good advice from MIND or your GP, so your DH can get the help he needs and make a full recovery.

Hi OP, this sounds really hard

I’m not a MH professional however you are describing severe paranoia and possibly psychosis.

Is there anyone that can support you to speak to your husband with you to try and encourage him to access help? His GP probably won’t speak to you - although you could try and even share info with them and see what they say.

Please don’t let his issues prevent you from getting the vaccine - if you feel you can’t be honest then you can go for it quietly. However, keeping it a secret may just feed into his paranoia. Maybe have a think about this and decide which course you think is best.

I really hope you have support IRL.

Some replies are brutal and discrimatory. He sounds like he may be having a mental health crisis, paranoia too? I don't know what help is available.

I’m not a MH professional however you are describing severe paranoia and possibly psychosis.

OP, I am a mental health professional, and the above is unfortunately a distinct possibility from what you have described. Your husband needs some professional help.

Have a look at QAnon casualties (it's all the same gubbins in the end, the Clintons drinking blood and vaccines leading to 'the great reset')
and see what kind of tips and resources are on offer. I think the current advice for suffering partners is that you do place a ban on talking about this nonsense, you don't engage with it. The second thing you do is try and talk to them about completely different subjects unrelated to conspiracies, so they have the opportunity to express a view that might be well-received. Slowly, they're supposed to relearn the art of conversation with others.

www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/

He's threatened you with divorce if you have the vaccine?

And you want to voluntarily stay with him?

When I think of leaving, I imagine him sitting on his own at his computer reading all these theories and getting deeper deeper into it. I don't want that

Fair enough, but just be careful you don't end up sitting there with him because you want to fix this. You can't force him to get help, but you should get help for yourself about how to navigate the situation.

Get your vaccine and make your own decision whether to tell him or not. Ring a mental health line for help. He sounds stressed and suffering with paranoia. Obvious I know but it doesnt sound like its going to improve anytime soon as he's in too deep. So stressful for you. Take care of yourself too.

@feelingmehtoday

I’m not a MH professional however you are describing severe paranoia and possibly psychosis.

OP, I am a mental health professional, and the above is unfortunately a distinct possibility from what you have described. Your husband needs some professional help.

Thanks for clarifying feelingmetoday. I have sadly experienced both in my professional personal life - not myself but family members and service users (I work in social work). And although over different issues, it sounds very familiar

@feelingmehtoday

I’m not a MH professional however you are describing severe paranoia and possibly psychosis.

OP, I am a mental health professional, and the above is unfortunately a distinct possibility from what you have described. Your husband needs some professional help.

Serious question, though - are they all suffering from severe paranoia and psychosis? Every single attendee of the rallys, every single member of these Facebook groups? They can't all be having a psychotic episode at the same time.

Your husband really needs help, it's not just an irrational thought here. Listen to @feelingmehtoday and encourage him to get help. Would you be able to speak to someone about it? The apocalyptic outlook is worrying.

@omgthepain

For gods sake get the vaccine snd leave the nut job he sounds off his rocker

Why are you even contemplating doing anything else???

Because she loves him and is worried about his clear MH breakdown ? Because she vowed to support him in sickness and in health and he's clearly sick in mind if not in body ? Because decent people don't just dump and run when the going gets tough ?

How's that's for 3 reasons to start you off ?

He needs to see his GP. Sorry, sounds tough.

First of all, you need to get the vaccine. You also need to try to keep the lines of communication open and persevere with rational conversations. Contact your GP or MIND as pp have suggested. Do you have children?

@feelingmehtoday

I’m not a MH professional however you are describing severe paranoia and possibly psychosis.

OP, I am a mental health professional, and the above is unfortunately a distinct possibility from what you have described. Your husband needs some professional help.

Thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it.

It's actually been quite cathartic to get all this out.

It's a spectrum though, isn't it.

At the "harmless" end of the spectrum you have people who are sick of lockdown, want guarantees it won't happen again, and wonder if perhaps the virus was constructed in a lab. But who are happy to vaccinate and go to rallies to protest.

In the middle there are the anti-vaxxers who don't think it's been tested enough, or that the side-effects haven't been tested enough.

At the extreme end of the spectrum are the people like the OP's DH who have descended into a pit of conspiracy, where the world is run by lizard people who have plotted a great reset, and Bill Gates is tracking us through chips in the vaccine.

It's impossible to argue with conspiracy theorists, any opposing view is just proof that you are brainwashed or can't see the truth. It must be utterly exhausting for the OP.

There was a guy I knew on the school run who was thoroughly anti vax, he had deaths in the family from covid and other causes which just sent him down a rabbit hole. I saw him a few weeks ago, and he was far far better, he basically turned off all his social media once he realised how much it was affecting him.

Has he joined in with mass conspiracy groups before, OP? Or is this his first?

Sorry, OP, I've just read that you don't have children. What's his job?

Th - this is the first time. He's always been very rational and to the point. This is very out of character.
I wish I'd seen it coming sooner. It was like a flick switched and that was that. Nothing else could be done or said against it.

The social media thing is interesting too - he has deleted everything. He actively seeks out these videos on YouTube and wherever else. It scares me.

"The Great Reset", the Clintons, Epstein, chips in the vaccine, 5G making us ill, Biden cheated and all that stuff as well?

OP. It sounds like MH issues. Please call his GP to see if they can help. I had an episode of MH issues about 10 years ago and was very much delusional like your husband.

Some of the other posters on here should be absolutely ashamed of themselves piling on with insults. And I bet you were all the “be kind” type a few months ago