My DH believes the vaccine will result in mass genocide

[IrisTee]

Im at my wits end. It's all he talks about.

He believes that covid has been over dramatised, masks are a waste of time and that the vaccine is going to kill millions of people over the next few years. He thinks it's a "depopulation" exercise and a way to control the masses. He said if I take the vaccine he will leave me.

He's been buying "survivalist" gear such as tents/ shovels/ emergency matches/ god knows what else. There's numerous packages arriving at the house every day. He's spent over a thousand pounds on this stuff.

Aibu to just be sick of the whole bloody thing??? I want to talk about something else, something normal but it all just comes back to this. What would you do?

@IrisTee

Positive news - he's agreed to talk to a counsellor after a long chat.

I'm really pleased to hear this, @IrisTee - he really doesn't sound well.

If I were you, I'd have the vaccine and not tell him, but his mental health issues are also urgent, and clearly getting worse. I'd pack a bag with essentials in case there's a long wait for mental health treatment/he deteriorates quickly and you start to feel threatened/at risk, at which point you should leave for a bit. People who are severely paranoid sometimes misjudge their loved ones, too. Even if when he's well, he's the loveliest person, he currently thinks that the government - all governments - are trying to kill everyone. It's not a huge leap to seeing you as part of the conspiracy, if he's inclined to see threats everywhere...

He needs professional help.

DH got interested in some odd story once and watched a lot of David Icke YouTube vids about it. He said that the videos are very convoluted and disorientating. The more you watch, the more you lose your instincts and sense of reality.

So, while I agree you need professional help with this, in the meantime do all you can to distract your DH from this stuff. Go out to the pub, watch a film together, visit family etc. Disrupt his habits. These beliefs wither without constant reinforcement.

I had a friend like this.
He wasn’t this bad but did believe in some of the conspiracy theories. Coincidentally, it was around the time he started smoking a LOT of weed

I'd think he was having a mental health crisis and needs to seek help.

The people I know who think the vaccine is going to kill people / is a chip under the skin / will kill all black people bla bla bla all smoke weed daily.....

@HBGKC Its board of Directors include Al Gore (ex-POTUS).

Al Gore was never POTUS. He was VP to Bill Clinton, and ran against Bush in 2000. Sorry, that might sound like I'm picking, but if you're trying to convince people to buy into your way of thinking, then you need to get basic facts correct. To do otherwise immediately discredits you.

@NoLeafClover yes, you're absolutely right. I meant to put ex-v-POTUS.

I'm not trying to get people to buy into a particular point of view, but several posters on this thread referenced Covid 19, The Great Reset as 'just another conspiracy theory' when it is anything but. It is a real, serious global initiative backed and financed by many of the most powerful people in the world, and I wish more people were aware of it and its goals (some of them quite worrying).

This is what MIND has to say who can ask for a MH assessment of someone else. As his wife, you are his nearest relative (you are his nr).

www.mind.org.uk/information-support/legal-rights/nearest-relative/sectioning-and-guardianships/

During one of my manic episodes, my then H contacted the GP, who visited, and then called for an assessment by MH services, who visited later that day.

To be clear, it was the GP who called for further assessment.

Vice is running an article today about a Parkland shooting survivor whose father used to be warm and supportive, but has since become addicted to conspiracy theories and now bellows at his son that the shooting was 'a hoax' and he is a 'paid' actor, lying about the shooting and that no one died.

The poor kid is making moves to leave.

No one's safe, really. Many, many young people are losing their parents over this. I lost mine over Brexit (they became vicious racists and anti-Semites, and can no longer be around us as they launch into extreme rants triggered by nothing) and no one talks to them now. The Guardian ran an article a bit ago, a Long Read, about people losing parents to Youtube rabbit holes. Now it's all they can talk about and they drive everyone away.

Seconding QAnonCasualties, they're a great support group.

Apple, Alphabet and Microsoft rake in 57$ billion of quarterly profits. (Financial Times headline)

That's Quarterly profits. I don't know how anyone can worry about a pandemic when everything informationwise in our lives is in the control of this lot - who despite their huge wealth can't control what is spread or posted on their fortune making websites - anyone anywhere, including multiple posting bots can post anything about anyone - now that is scary imv. Lunatics running the globe asylum.
And we addicted lemmings all follow.

And despite them not paying a lot of tax there must be a lot going into the US economy in tax from such vast amounts as they are based there and very little coming to us. The US prospers whilst the rest of the west's economy flounders. Certainly where I live everything in the service industry is pared to the bone.

It’s fascinating to me that as a PP described people are losing their parents to this - and the son of Kate Shemirani (anti-vaxxer who talked about doctors and nurses recently) did that interview about her in the same way. Why is this appealing to older people more than younger?

Older people are more likely to feel their DC have been taken in and “lost” to / harmed by gender ideology. Why the different age groups though? It’s really odd.

Why the tents? If there's mass genocide there will be plenty of nice empty houses to stay in!

I know, and why be angry with the vacc-taking sheeple? They’ll all die leaving everything for the truly wise anti-vaxxers in a new sheeple-free utopia. Why don’t they just let us get on with it?

I don't think it's genocide because that means trying to eradicate a particular ethnic group e.g. the Germans wanting to kill off the Jews. The vaccines are not targeted at particular groups, they are being given to everyone and being issued all over the globe.

That aside, depopulation is not necessarily a bad thing.

My ex-DP and I have spilt up because (among other things) I had the Covid vaccine. He thinks that he can 'catch spike proteins' from kissing me on the mouth or being around me because I'm 'shedding'.

He's 52 years old with pre-existing health conditions and we have a 20 month old daughter. I just hope he doesn't catch covid. He thinks it doesn't exist.

It's so strange- at the beginning of the pandemic he quit his job because he didn't want to catch covid and was so scared of it. Now, he's done a full 180. It's all made up according to him.

He is a very controlling person with some narcissistic tendencies and I suspect that his behaviour stems from losing his normal way of life / work due to the pandemic.

Like your DH, he has also lost friends and has upset his mum because her partner has COPD and she doesn't want him to visit any more because he refuses to be vaccinated. Consequently, our daughter doesn't see her nanny.

At the moment, he's spending a huge amount of time on LinkedIn posting videos about 'This stops when we all say no'. I think the attention he is getting from these videos is reinforcing his behaviour and narcissistic tendencies.

Anyway you have my sympathies. It's all so tiresome.

Get yourself vaccinated!

Your husband needs to talk to someone