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To ask what you think society judges the most about others?

203 replies

AnnaBellaCruella · 24/07/2021 17:36

Is it race, religion, status or lifestyle? In my experience it’s how one parents. What’s your experience?

OP posts:
SchrodingersImmigrant · 24/07/2021 21:18

From experience perceived class/money overtake race. Dh is treated totally differently in expensive clithes with slightly expensive watch and better car. His arab face is still the same🤷🏻
I have this with accent. People kind of assume I stupid😁 Then they find out I am not. Bit of a shock to some🙄 Still rather my EE accent than what's considered "bad" english one though!

MrsJuliaGulia · 24/07/2021 21:18

I judge overweight parents with overweight children. Absolutely no need for it.
I also judge people who put their small girls (age 4 & 5 for example) in head scarves. Quite common in an area of London I frequent.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 24/07/2021 21:22

I've just realised that I might not be judged at my fatness (formerly morbidly obese after balooning from size 12...) because it's overriden by being judged for my EE accent😂

EspressoDoubleShot · 24/07/2021 21:23

Essentially one tries to circumvent class by code switching,eg changing my accent to fit in.I have experienced feeling other and having imposter syndrome.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/07/2021 21:23

Class and weight.

HalzTangz · 24/07/2021 21:35

People judge looks more than anything I believe, followed by racism

MrsJBaptiste · 24/07/2021 21:44

Weight/Appearance

Without a fucking doubt.

GalaxyGirl24 · 24/07/2021 22:21

Race
Attractiveness
Perceived religion (if you wear a headscarf/turban etc)
Weight
Class or perceived class
Age

SpindleWhorl · 24/07/2021 22:23

Being female.

Neondisco · 24/07/2021 22:28

Class
Weight

Most people are pretty stupid though so it's not surprising it's such banal irrelevant things.

TigersandTeddybears · 24/07/2021 22:29

Hygiene
Weight
Class
Race
Sex

TigersandTeddybears · 24/07/2021 22:29

Benefits

dentydown · 24/07/2021 22:50

Weight/appearance. I’ve been accused of feeding the kids crisps and chocolate bars everyday because I’m fat.

Hotcuppatea · 24/07/2021 22:51

Definitely weight

blobblob · 24/07/2021 22:59

Age before everything
Appearance - clean/ rich/class/smart/fat/ugly/beautiful
Race/religion
Voice/charm
Skills/ability to do things
Kindness/niceness

StrangeToSee · 24/07/2021 23:21

This isn’t S&B!

What’s S&B?

EspressoDoubleShot · 24/07/2021 23:22

Style & Beauty on mn which can host some really dumb advice about accessories and styling

StrangeToSee · 24/07/2021 23:29

Matching accessories eg bag and shoes and scarf. ‘I don't think this has been a positive for decades 😆’

Maybe it’s not in fashion but it gives a look of being ‘put together’. Unlike someone wearing clashing patterns and colours, or a jumble of colours that look thrown on. It’s like scarves, if they pick up some of the colours in your outfit it sort of pulls it all together?

Short clean nails preferably with gel polish that matches a colour in the outfit.
‘I've worked in fashion for a long time & I don't think I've ever noticed what type of polish someone uses’

I notice broken, chipped, grubby nails. And peeling polish or super long talons. Or bright colours that clash with the outfit.

No tattoos or piercings
‘Again completely outdated’

It would be nice if this were true, but sadly tattoos on women still carry a stigma, as do facial piercings or those things that stretch the earlobe.

girlonamission · 25/07/2021 00:32

Appearance first and then as soon as the mouth opens it's your accent and diction, use of slang and sloppy grammar.

maddening · 25/07/2021 00:47

Sadly:

Weight
Looks
Money / status

StripyGiraffes · 25/07/2021 01:58

Strangers: appearance. But what else can people do?

After that, it depends. Mannerisms, previous experiences and pre-conceptions influence judgements, personality, behaviour.

I'm not sure what you post is trying to get at m, OP?

Megasausagehead · 25/07/2021 02:06

Being a fat, non-driving, working class, South London, comprehensive school educated, poor, slob.

I can confirm that it is weight.

StripyGiraffes · 25/07/2021 02:06

@Tootsey11

No, I don't judge on appearance. Why? Because I have spent my entire life being judged by others on mine. And it made me feel shit for a long time. Now, I don't give a fuck what others think.

I developed a facial condition aged 30. Before that I looked normal, now I look different, not ugly, just different. But to see the way people react to me, some don't, most cant hide it. Why, I'm no different to anyone else.
I can't wear make up because of it, I've had people say to me, why don't you make an effort. Fuck you, you have no idea what I go through every day.

I wear joggers every day, not because I can't be arsed, it's because I'm in pain and can't wear close fitting clothing. I see the way I'm being judged for it. My card was declined in a shop, and the assistant said 'are you sure you have money in your account, looking me up and down'. I showed her my balance, that shut her up. The manager found a fault with the machine, not my card.

Me, I judge others on their actions, how they treat other people and the world around them.

Appearance, weight, accent and all that nonsense mean nothing to me.

I'm so sorry you've experienced this. It must be so upsetting to feel judged in this way and believe me, not everybody only sees the superficial.

If it's any consolation I've been through exactly that in a shop with a random card decline and was viewed with the same suspicion and given the same rude treatment: I don't think this was necessarily related to anything about your appearance. People who work in shops can be astonishingly unpleasant even to people who've been nothing but polite to them. Thanks

StripyGiraffes · 25/07/2021 02:08

@Thelnebriati

Class barriers are impossible to cross. I don't think people always do it consciously, but they stick together by class and background more than anything else.
See whenever people say stuff like this I'm just baffled. I don't have a "class". It's like some weird religion I don't believe in, I really don't understand it and am happy for others to believe in it of course like any other faith but this idea that people categorise themselves and others like this is totally alien and wierd to me.
EspressoDoubleShot · 25/07/2021 02:37

You don’t have a class?no accent,no behavioural pattern,no demonstratble values. No consumer items?No house?no educational background? You’re accentless, with no discernible clues to educational attainment? You know what I don’t actually believe that you don’t have a class. Sure, you may not feel an affiliation to your background. You may feel misaligned to class group. However, the faux baffled what is”a class” it’s really disingenuous