To ask what you think society judges the most about others?

[AnnaBellaCruella]

Is it race, religion, status or lifestyle? In my experience it’s how one parents. What’s your experience?

I agree with appearance and would include weight in that, along with accent.

My covid status.
If I’ve had covid.
If I’ve been vaccinated.
The amount of money I earn, the amount of money DH earns, where we live.
Generally physical appearance, what your house looks like (if it’s Mrs Hinched) and lifestyle.

@NailsNeedDoing

I agree with appearance and would include weight in that, along with accent.

I agree with appearance and that definitely includes weight, but I can't agree with accent.

Perhaps that's an area thing though, as I live in London where there are different accents everywhere.

Weight but only over not under.
Poverty - individuals are generally blamed for not pulling up their bootstraps or being feckless

Class definitely. I didn’t realise how much until I moved to a ‘wealthy’ area. As a working class person those with a bit of money (and those who just think they have) really look down their noses.

@MarcusRashford yes I agree
Accents are judged and there’s the accentless accent that people work hard to perfect

@Suzi888

My covid status. If I’ve had covid. If I’ve been vaccinated. The amount of money I earn, the amount of money DH earns, where we live. Generally physical appearance, what your house looks like (if it’s Mrs Hinched) and lifestyle.

You need new mates. No one around me asked me about covid or cared ever whether my house was "Hinched" aka if I nearly poisones myself by mixing ahitload of chemicals

How someone talks.

The are many other 'shibboleths' - I think 'society' is too large with too many differing interconnecting systems and constructs for it be boiled down to one and many judgements are more social pressures than a conscious judgement -- but even shibboleth is rooted in a story about speech differences.

As an immigrant, I (and my children) get far more shite for having a mixed accent than anything else we do that isn't typical for the UK. So many assumptions I've had based on speech.

Even hygiene - something I'd put as up there, I've had people make remarks and assumptions about my hygiene based on how I talk.

Money.

This covers where you live, job, children's school, hobbies, car, appearance (to an extent).

I think the way people dress and do their make up is the most judged. Eg dramatic false eyelashes, heavy foundation with an orange hue, lots of bronzer, thick drawn on dark brows and hair dyed unnatural colours is likely to bring judgement. Especially if combined with a pushy attitude, interrupting a lot. Add facial piercings, tattoos and clothes too revealing/tight for the occasion and people tend to judge even more.

Someone who looks bedraggled will also be judged (no make up, hair greasy and unstyled, body odour, badly fitting clothes with stains, shoes in need of repair. It implies they have no pride in their appearance or no motivation to care for themselves.

Weight and at the moment mask wearing

I don’t care how someone looks but I guess a lot do

I’m pretty sure you do. It’s a survival mechanism if nothing else. Everyone makes judgements on everyone else all the time. Do they look friendly, too friendly, drunk, dangerous, attractive, funny, standoffish. You’d be literally unique to escape normal human behaviour and be immune to making snap judgements on everyone you come across every single day.

And of course society tends to judge those with a certain ‘look’ more positively. Eg:

Slim
Clothes that fit well, maybe a bit oversized
Clean, styled hair, not too long, recently trimmed and roots blended in a natural colour.
No BO
Good teeth
Features in proportion (eg close set eyes are often viewed as ‘shifty’ or mean).
Minimal jewellery
No tattoos or piercings
Light natural tan (if any) and subtle make up
Matching accessories eg bag and shoes and scarf.
Short clean nails preferably with gel polish that matches a colour in the outfit.
Good social skills

Society judged by your choice of dog too.

A staffie type or Rottweiler tends to have people crossing the road.

A Labrador or golden retriever or spaniel seems to invite conversation.

@JustAWalkingTalkingCotBed

Personally I look at how kind they are to others, how much they love others and respect the world around them.

Sorry I do not believe that. It’s so ohhh look at me I’m so virtuous. You cannot judge kindness or now one treats others by a quick visual inspection. Kindness attributes are considered to be open warm smile, symmetrical features, soft voice, modulated tones, regular rate,regular tone and volume speech. If you encountered close set eyes, rapid loud abrupt speech with an irregular rate and tone you’d not consider that kind.

We all judge appearance. Consciously and unconsciously. We all make judgements and we make them in under 30seconds. Based on appearance,demeanour,clothing,height,weight. Think about confidence tricksters they use appearance and deploy familiar tropes to imbue confidence. They understand what are considered positive attributes and use them to imbue confidence.

You cannot immediately judge how one respects the word unless they are wearing a Fuck climate change T-shirt

Money and class.

Class, race and appearance definitely.

No one can judge me ony "kindness" because wven though I am on LinkedIn, I don't talk about it🤷🏻

I’m fat. In my day to day life I don’t notice any obvious judgement (maybe they’re scared I’ll sit on them).

But mumsnet: well... that’s where I read all the bitchiness and nastiness about obesity.

@StrangeToSee

And of course society tends to judge those with a certain ‘look’ more positively. Eg:

Slim
Clothes that fit well, maybe a bit oversized
Clean, styled hair, not too long, recently trimmed and roots blended in a natural colour.
No BO
Good teeth
Features in proportion (eg close set eyes are often viewed as ‘shifty’ or mean).
Minimal jewellery
No tattoos or piercings
Light natural tan (if any) and subtle make up
Matching accessories eg bag and shoes and scarf.
Short clean nails preferably with gel polish that matches a colour in the outfit.
Good social skills

This isn’t S&B!

Accent is something people really judge on. I’m really sorry and I hate myself for it but I always think a Norfolk accent makes people sound a bit simple. And I detest the London yoof accent. Sorry, I know I sound a complete snob.

@MrsMillhouse

I’m fat. In my day to day life I don’t notice any obvious judgement (maybe they’re scared I’ll sit on them).

But mumsnet: well... that’s where I read all the bitchiness and nastiness about obesity.

Same!

I don’t judge anything except behaviour. I wouldn’t judge someone for owning a Rottweiler if they behaved responsibly but if they let it off the lead with children around I’d judge them.

Those of you protesting you don’t judge appearance I don’t believe you
We all judge appearance

Class is a big thing - and it can work both ways, i.e. inverse snobbery.

Benefit claimants are often judged even if legitimate.