Family party and the unvaccinated

[JanetPondersley]

My immediate family are throwing a medium sized, outdoor, family party to celebrate all the celebrations we have missed over the last 18 months.

All the Aunts, Uncles, Cousins etc we are close to are invited, along with some close family friends.

We have always been close to one particular cousin and her family. Me and my siblings are close in age to her and her siblings.

The issue is, this particular cousin and her husband are refusing to have the vaccine. I unfriended them a while ago on facebook as the husband likes to share delightful 'patriotic' memes (which is a whole other story), and the husband has fallen hook, line and sinker for all the anti mask / anti vax rhetoric. He calls face masks face nappies and muzzles. (insert the biggest eyeroll you can imagine here)

There will be a number of unvaccinated children there, including a new born who will be somewhere around a month old then. Also a friend who is unable to be vaccinated, so as a family we have decided that we won't be inviting the cousin due to choosing not to be vaccinated.

This has obviously led to drama. Personally, I couldn't care less. If people want to refuse to come because we haven't invited this cousin, they are welcome to not come. But it's really upset my mum, who is elderly and had a shittier than average past 18 months. She wants me and my siblings to back down and keep the peace.

AIBU to stick to our guns and not invite the cousin?

@Garfunkle

I’m double vaccinated as are all my family. Teens excepted as they are still waiting for a date for their second vaccine.

I celebrated my 50th birthday with my family and close friends last night. We had an amazing time catching up with each other after being apart for so long.

I wouldn’t have invited anyone who refused the vaccine. However, I didn’t need to worry on that score. All my close friends and adult family members have received the vaccine, according to age and availability.

I feel truly blessed to have children who care about others. I must have done something right.

I'm so glad you had an amazing night.

I think lots of people do care about others but some have temporarily (hopefully) fallen down the rabbit hole and others have health anxiety or issues.

XenoBitch
As I has said to you before, I have a severe phobia that goes way beyond being "scared". Never anywhere have I said I will demand NHS treatment if I get Covid... infact I have said the exact opposite

I’ve never seen anything from you stating you wouldn’t expect NHS treatment. In fact all I’ve seen from you is

• I can’t get the covid vaccine because I’m scared
• I don’t go anywhere because I’m disabled and housebound
• I refuse to wear a mask
• I only use self service checkouts at the supermarket
• I have carers coming in to care for me. I cannot wear a mask (so tough titty on them really).
• I’m scared to get the jab. That doesn’t mean I can’t get NHS treatment if I get Covid.

Go you! A simple 2 second jab will be the least of your problems if you are admitted with Covid.

Did you ever think about what happens on a Covid ward?

Cancel that! We all know Covid won’t get XenoBitch. She is far too tough to succumb to Covid - or pass it on to the vulnerable 🙄

@KimmyAndMe

XenoBitch As I has said to you before, I have a severe phobia that goes way beyond being "scared". Never anywhere have I said I will demand NHS treatment if I get Covid... infact I have said the exact opposite

I’ve never seen anything from you stating you wouldn’t expect NHS treatment. In fact all I’ve seen from you is

• I can’t get the covid vaccine because I’m scared
• I don’t go anywhere because I’m disabled and housebound
• I refuse to wear a mask
• I only use self service checkouts at the supermarket
• I have carers coming in to care for me. I cannot wear a mask (so tough titty on them really).
• I’m scared to get the jab. That doesn’t mean I can’t get NHS treatment if I get Covid.

Go you! A simple 2 second jab will be the least of your problems if you are admitted with Covid.

Did you ever think about what happens on a Covid ward?

Cancel that! We all know Covid won’t get XenoBitch. She is far too tough to succumb to Covid - or pass it on to the vulnerable 🙄

Why are you so obsessed with me? You have followed me onto threads elsewhere just to makes more jibes. You have searched through comments on other posts too to come up with your list. How sad is that?

What do you want me to say? I am just a person with my own struggles. Why are you making them your business? You have no fucking right to invalidate any of them when you don't have a clue who I am or what I go through. Do you do this with everyone, or I am your latest thing?

Please just leave me the fuck alone. There is another person on the other side of the screen you are looking at. Just please leave me alone.,

Why are you so obsessed with me? You have followed me onto threads elsewhere just to makes more jibes. You have searched through comments on other posts too to come up with your list. How sad is that

You keep tagging me. If you don’t want me to respond don’t tag me. Simple eh? The very last person I want to follow is you. You are not as interesting as you think you are! If you respond don’t tag me and I won’t reply. You mean nothing at all to me.

@KimmyAndMe you're being really vindictive now... seems like it's becoming more than Xeno just being unvaccinated🤔

@KimmyAndMe

Why are you so obsessed with me? You have followed me onto threads elsewhere just to makes more jibes. You have searched through comments on other posts too to come up with your list. How sad is that

You keep tagging me. If you don’t want me to respond don’t tag me. Simple eh? The very last person I want to follow is you. You are not as interesting as you think you are! If you respond don’t tag me and I won’t reply. You mean nothing at all to me.

The poster above me is right. You are being vindictive. You have done an advanced search on my name and made this weird list as some sort of character assassination. What exactly are you trying to achieve by doing that?

You also seem to have twisted whatever comments I have made too.

Anyone is free to AS search me they will see that....

-I am not scared of the covid vaccine to the point I would avoid it. I have even said I would have it if it was in a form that was not a needle, such as a nasal spray or patch.
-I have never said I am disabled and housebound. You have made that up. I said I struggle to leave the house. Sometimes I do get out.
-I am unable to wear a mask, not refusing to wear one. I even did the virtue signalling thing and tried a shield. I was told to take it off... by the nurse seeing me in hospital.
-What the actual fuck as me using self service checkouts in supermarkets got to do with anything at all? You are clutching at straws. And if I am "housebound" as you put it, how am I using them?
-I have never said I have carers coming in to care for me. You made that up. I said I had nurses visit me at the moment... and that is because I was very low and suicidal and was under the mental health crisis team. (this is on MN too, you chose to ignore that then because it does not fit your narrative). They know the reasons I can not wear a mask and it was never mentioned at all. No physical contact either so they could sit a proper distance away from me.
-Me having a severe needle phobia (which is a lot more than being scared... and I have explained several times WHY that is) is why I am not having the vaccine in its current form. I would also refuse any treatment for Covid, because I do not want to be here anymore.

Where did I say I am "tough"? I am not. If I am "housebound", who I am passing Covid on to? Where am I getting it? In your weird attempt to online bully me, you have contradicted yourself.

Also, you have only picked on me... someone with a legitimate reason to not have the vaccine right now. Why have you not targeted the blatant anti-vax posters? Or people posting mis-information?
Why pick on someone in crisis? It is the online equivalent to picking on the nervous lone woman in a shop who is not wearing a mask... because you want to feel big, and make someone else feel awful.

I am not going engage with you further. You are deliberately obtuse, and vindictive.

@XenoBitch hope you're okay.

If it was ONLY a matter of the one couple not being vaccinated, I might say YABU. If the party is outdoors, and the unvaccinated couple keep their distance from the baby, the new mother (who can't easily isolate from her baby if she later tests positive), the friend who can't be vaccinated, and anyone else who is or feels vulnerable, then it is not a great risk. You can't go to a gathering and avoid all risk, given that unvaccinated children will be there, and also that while vaccination DOES greatly reduce the risk of transmission, it doesn't abolish it. HOWEVER, it isn't just that the couple won't get the vaccination. It is that the husband appears to be ideologically hostile to all anti-Covid precautions. Therefore, I wouldn't rely on him to keep a distance from the vulnerable: he may for example insist on kissing the baby, or constantly talking in the face of the friend who can't be vaccinated. At the very least, he could create a very unpleasant atmosphere at what should be a pleasant occasion by loudly arguing with everyone who has chosen to be vaccinated. Yes, he has a right to choose what goes into his body, but you have a right to choose who goes into your party!