You’d think that after a year and a half of restrictions, lockdowns, endless data etc people would be able to distinguish the difference between cases and deaths.
Now the vaccination programme is very much underway and everyone constantly reiterating how effective it is, an increase in cases does not automatically = a crazy rise in deaths. The data so far shows that.. deaths remaining steady, despite cases increasing which was inevitable anyway due to people mixing again.
Also very important to remember that death stats include anyone who died that may have tested positive within 28 days. They could’ve died of something completely unrelated, but they are still used in the stats. Lots of people may have died WITH covid, but not OF covid.
Vaccination doesn’t stop you getting or transmitting COVID. At least 40% of those currently hospitalised with COVID are vaccinated?
The vaccination programme was touted as the way the elderly/vulnerable would be protected, hence why they started with the older age groups. If they’re vaccinated, why are people so worried?
The idea that those who cannot/choose not to get vaccinated should be “punished” and live a limited, restricted life is just beyond comprehension. By all means base your friendship group on people who have taken the vaccine, but are you really so opposed to personal choice? Surely you cannot be serious.
I listening to the radio on way to work today and one of the presenters was going on about how he agreed with vaccine passports and “why should people have luxuries like nightclubs and big events if they won’t get vaccinated”… errr because it’s a democracy apparently 
and people can have autonomy over their bodies? Full steam ahead to creating a two tier society… and the language being used “do the right thing”, “for the greater good” is just guilt tripping and coercion, all in the name of altruism and heroism.
Why is it so awful for some people to want to wait until there is some long term data on any side effects? Previous posters on here writing them off as insignificant, the risk of side effects being minuscule etc.. I’m sure those suffering side effects from the vaccine and their loved ones would beg to differ? I could argue that the risk of complications from COVID would be minuscule for me, but that doesn’t mean I write off others experiences that have been different and they have been more unwell. Personally I would like to wait until there is more long term data regarding fertility and conception, menstrual issues etc. My 88yr old grandma is double vaccinated so I’m not exactly a huge risk to her. I frequently interact with vaccinated and unvaccinated people, couldn’t really tell you which was which though because I don’t ask. It’s none of my business.
@Mummyford “with a large percentage of the population choosing to not act in the best interests of the population at large” I think your maths is a bit off because as of 11th July, 86.1% of the population aged 18 and over had been vaccinated with at least one dose, and more than 6 in 10 individuals aged 18 and over have now been vaccinated with both doses (approx 65% of population).
More than 9 in 10 individuals (approx 93%) aged 50 and over, supposedly the most vulnerable age group, and more than 8 in 10 individuals aged 40 and over (87%) have been vaccinated with both doses.