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AIBU?

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I know IABU in not wanting to ask for maintenance. Need some sense!

242 replies

swiftt · 06/07/2021 14:52

I’ve posted about this situation before. Back story: I have a 3 week old baby. Her dad is involved but we are not together, and we never have been. He stayed with me for 2 weeks after her birth and is currently seeing her for a few hours every other evening and more at the weekend. He works full time. I’m on maternity leave and it drops down to approx £150/week as of this month.

I asked if we could have a discussion about maintenance amounts months ago and he put it off, we argued and eventually he said we’d sort it nearer the time. Well, she’s here now and we still haven’t come to an agreement. I know I need to bring this up with him again but he has made some comments recently about money and I feel like I’m walking on eggshells when I think about bringing it up. We had a newborn photo shoot done last week and when I asked him to transfer me his half for the photos (this was agreed well in advance of doing the photo shoot) he said, ‘oh, I want a new TV. Will you pay half?’ Then said he was just joking about how he wants something and I should pay half for it. I asked him in advance if he wanted the photos done and gave him the option of saying no, so to pass that off as a joke really felt like more of a dig to me.

He’s also made other comments in the past about how unfair maintenance is etc, and I feel like I’m just anticipating an argument about him basically not wanting to give me money, even though it’s for our daughter. I said to him before that even if I don’t end up needing the money for her, I’d save it in a bank account for her. I’m not the type to go and spend it on crap for the sake of it.

He’s coming over to see her tonight and I really need to nail this conversation as I’m well aware that I’m just dragging it on and making it worse but I feel so anxious about it. For context, he has bought a couple of packs of nappies and brings some stuff in from the shops for me when he visits (had a c section so I can’t drive yet). I’ve bought anything else we’ve needed for baby since she was born and haven’t asked him to contribute.

Also very aware of how pathetic I sound in this situation. I usually don’t have issues with assertiveness but he’s really difficult to have a conversation with and I’m not feeling totally in the right headspace just yet, with dealing with a newborn, sleep deprivation and doing it mostly on my own. From my other threads, I also know this doesn’t bode well for co-parenting but I just need advice on the here and now.

Bottom line here: I feel irrationally guilty about asking for child maintenance money even though my daughter is entitled to it. How do I grow some balls?!

OP posts:
EL8888 · 27/07/2021 15:05

Good luck with sorting contact and great news about the CMS. Take a step back, he’s not the most organised of people. He sounds immature and selfish, he can’t have everything his own way

PearPickingPorky · 28/07/2021 16:48

I wonder if, in the presence of his parents, the "doting dad" will be able to fake it long enough to change a nappy.

LittleOwl153 · 06/08/2021 13:28

Hope you and the little miss are doing well @swiftt How did the lunch date go? Have you heard anymore from CMS yet? Is he sticking to his schedule?

swiftt · 06/08/2021 18:36

@LittleOwl153 we’re grand! It ended up being dinner and he was there too, which was totally fine. We’ve actually been getting on great since this has been sorted. I guess it’s the fact that there isn’t this underlying tension of things being unresolved? I heard from CMS this week with their calculation, so he must have let them know his income for this year. It’s about £40 a month more than what he said he’d pay, so I’m hoping he updates his standing order for this month to reflect that, otherwise I’ll need to bring that up. We also have a more structured contact schedule now, which is working really well. A fairly positive update for a change. ☺️

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PearPickingPorky · 06/08/2021 22:36

That's great news, OP.

It's the right thing to do to set out the line in the sand early, as the longer he gets away with shirking his responsibilities, the more he'll think he's entitled to do it and the more he'll believe he's hard done to when you eventually snap.

Hope you and DD are doing well.

LittleOwl153 · 06/08/2021 23:38

That's good. Sometimes getting these things sorted by others can take the pressure off and make things easier for all! Hope the little lady is doing well.

QueenBee52 · 07/08/2021 01:58

Good on you OP 🌸

BananaMilkshakeWithCream · 07/08/2021 09:01

CMS right away. This loser isn’t going to cough up without a fight and probably thinks he’s doing you a wonderful favour but buying a few packs of nappies every now and again. If you don’t do this then you’ll regret it and only have yourself to blame for not having the chance for maintenance.
Good luck.

QueenBee52 · 07/08/2021 15:20

@BananaMilkshakeWithCream

CMS right away. This loser isn’t going to cough up without a fight and probably thinks he’s doing you a wonderful favour but buying a few packs of nappies every now and again. If you don’t do this then you’ll regret it and only have yourself to blame for not having the chance for maintenance. Good luck.

OP has already resolved all of this through CMS

KnobJockey · 25/08/2021 12:05

Hi @swiftt how are things going? How's baby girl getting on? I hope he's been seeing her regularly 🙂

swiftt · 25/08/2021 16:58

@KnobJockey hello! Aww thank you for asking. Baby girl is absolutely thriving. She is just the best. He’s been sticking to the days we agreed for seeing her, and we’ve been getting on fine again. Things are good! Long may it continue. 🙈

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Blueberry77 · 25/08/2021 17:11

Maintenance from someone like him will never work directly. He may agree to pay you directly initially to avoid CMS & will then start messing around with reduced/missed payments. It will be a never ending headache trying to get what's fair from him. Just go directly to CMS, please do not give him the option to pay directly.

LittleOwl153 · 25/08/2021 18:09

Have you resolved the maintenance and his expectations of you (to feed him and clear up after him still?)

Glad DD is good. That is the best part!

KnobJockey · 25/08/2021 19:27

Glad to hear it! Long may it continue 🙂

swiftt · 25/08/2021 21:03

@LittleOwl153 today is actually the payment date we agreed. I expected to have to remind him to send payment, and also the updated amount that CMS had calculated but he’s sent it without any prompt from me at all. I don’t feed him or clear up after him anymore. It was my birthday last week and I didn’t expect anything, but he got me a lovely card from DD and wrote a message in it from him thanking me for our daughter. It doesn’t seem like much but it was actually such a nice gesture. I think he finds it difficult to express himself, so that was probably a big thing for him. Things are looking so much better now that things are out in the open.

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TartanJumper · 25/08/2021 21:53

Don't ask him again, go through the CMS. He's going to dick you around if you have an informal arrangement.
I would also consider getting a proper contact arrangement.

TartanJumper · 25/08/2021 21:54

Ah just seen the update- glad everything is working out! Long may it continue.

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