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AIBU?

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AIBU to want to yell 'This isn't a holiday'?

261 replies

luvvaduck · 02/07/2021 12:38

My parents lived for more than 40 years next door to a couple their age with whom they became close friends. I got to know them too, and over the years as they all aged and needed support I was in regular touch with their daughter and she with me. We weren't exactly friends — nothing much in common — but we pooled resources to look after them all and it worked well.

The last of our parents died in 2019 but we kept in touch. We're both divorced, live alone and we both work full-time. Last year she asked me if I'd go and assist her after she broke her leg badly: she said there was no one else she felt she could ask in the light of Covid restrictions and so I arranged to work from her home (she lives 200 miles away) for a few weeks while she recovered. It was okay — she has a very nice house in a holiday area — but it was hard work. I struggled to fit in all my 'work' work on top of helping to look after her and the daily cooking and cleaning etc. I was there for nearly four weeks before she could manage independently.

Now she's asked if I'd go back for 'another holiday' as she puts it. She's having eye surgery and will need to lie face down for a week afterwards and will need possibly another week's general assistance after that. I can do what I did last time — work from her home.

I don't mind going. I know it's hard to find reliable support, particularly during Covid restrictions. She's a Type 1 diabetic and deemed to still be vulnerable, despite jabs, so having me tested and then living there for a fortnight will be safer for her than having a series of carers through the house. I get all that and feel sympathetic. But I hate the way she describes it as a holiday! It's care work. I don't mind doing it, but it's not a holiday! AIBU? What would you do?

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Wexone · 03/07/2021 20:30

she could be having surgery for a busrt blood vessel in your eye. this happened to my father and he had to lie face down for nearly a week as he needed to keep the pressure off his eye while it healed

Terhou · 03/07/2021 20:31

Has she been vaccinated? If so, why is the possibility of catching Covid a concern?

luvvaduck · 03/07/2021 20:41

Terhou, because you can still catch Covid even if you've had two vaccinations and because of her health conditions (she's a Type 1 diabetic among other things) catching Covid could be very bad news. So having someone like me who works from home and doesn't have children around (so is less likely to encounter Covid) is a bit safer than having care workers in and out several times a day.

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Merryweather80 · 03/07/2021 20:44

I have care. I feel a burden asking for drinks to be made it water bottle filling it help to get to the lol. Care work is hard on those giving and those receiving.
I can understand why she would want someone familiar to help out. She clearly hasn't realised how much work you have and the extra on top of that impacting on your paid productivity.

I hope she does appreciate your care and what you give/ relinquish to help her and provide the care.

Please find time to take care of yourself too.

Blackcat333 · 03/07/2021 21:04

If she is lying down for a week then she has had a retinal detachment which is a horrible thing. Just ask her what she means by what she said. She may have been joking. You lived with her for a month, didn't you become friends enough to speak honestly in all that time? 🤣

nimello · 03/07/2021 21:10

@luvvaduck

And it turns out you are right, all those of you who thought the 'holiday' remark was a way of trying to cover her embarrassment at having to ask for help a second time. We had a chat this morning and she said that the moment she sent that message she regretted the reference to a holiday because she knew how far from holiday-like our last experience was. We had a laugh about it and then arranged the day and time I need to go. She's said that when this is all over we'll have a real holiday at her expense and I'm happy to take her up on it. Some of the more negative responses here have made me realise that although we're not best friends, we do mean a lot to each other. I'd like to thank the people who said we are more like sisters than close friends: I think that's a good observation.

So many people have surmised that she wasn't even grateful the first time I helped out and that's so far off the mark it's laughable. I receive flowers each month from her as a thank-you for last year's stint.

I know it takes all sorts to make the world go round, but honestly, there's pleasure to be found in doing something helpful if you can. And on this occasion I can.

OP, this is lovely. And I'm glad those of us who thought she was trying to cover her embarrassment were right, and that she isn't a CF. You and she sound as if you have a relationship that's far better and more durable than "best friends" (cf all the "best friend" dramas one reads about on here).
willstarttomorrow · 03/07/2021 21:25

Lovely OP. In the real world there are lots of kind people just being kind and human. Totally fed up up with the CF rhetoric on mumsnet, time to put the phrase to bed.

RuggerHug · 03/07/2021 22:20

I bloody love a happy ending/conclusion Grin

eastegg · 03/07/2021 22:23

@LuxOlente

A whole host of people in their 30s and 40s haven't managed to grasp that working from home is actually working, including members of the government and many people's own management. Hoping an elderly, infirm lady is going to get it is a big ask. And as said, she might be saying it to save face. Hammering home how much work it is will only make her reluctant to ask for help.

If you cannot do it you'll just have to say you can't, and hopefully she's got some family who can start to do so. Or, you can do it, but how you handle your workload is going to be up to you.

OP said the lady works FT. Nothing to suggest she's elderly or infirm.
eastegg · 03/07/2021 22:27

Came on to comment on all the vile replies about this lady and I've seen your update OP. So pleased.

Can't believe replies like 'where are her friends? Fuck that '. Disgraceful attitude. I think it's wonderful what you're doing.

RandomCatGenerator · 03/07/2021 22:29

What a lovely conclusion!

You’re a good person OP, and it sounds like you are both valued parts of each other’s lives. Flowers

DGFB · 03/07/2021 23:06

Lovely conclusion and just goes to show that asking strangers on the internet is probably often a bad idea! Most people in their own minds often know what they want to/should do

WatchingTVagain · 03/07/2021 23:58

A family member recently had vitrectomy surgery and was told to just keep their head down while sitting (as well as no strenuous exercise etc) as recent research has shown there is little improvement in 'posturing' for the inconvenience incurred. Might be worth seeing what her surgeon says after the op before you decide.

Anystarinthesky · 04/07/2021 00:52

I am so glad to hear that you had the conversation with your friend and cleared the air re the 'holiday' remark.

Definitely get in the M&S meals!

I have done the same for a friend who had an operation (knee replacement) and will be helping her again when she gets the other one done.

angelfacecuti75 · 04/07/2021 02:04

I think you sound lovely .
Can't she just stay on at the hospital for a bit longer and they usually arrange carers/aftercare
?

Maggiesfarm · 04/07/2021 02:41

A lovely update, op.You and she sound like two good women. I hope all goes well for your friend's recovery and that you have some time to go out and about - and do go away for a holiday with her when she is better.

Well done you.

Flowers
Petlover9 · 04/07/2021 08:30

@osbertthesyrianhamster
I totally agree with all you say. It IS care work OP, even if in a nice location. Perhaps you could "have something arranged" for those dates? Please don't be used, it is so cheeky of this woman to ask AGAIN

PieceOfString · 04/07/2021 08:46

I love a happy ending. Glad you found the sounding board you needed op and got a positive outcome and mutual understanding.

Hwory · 04/07/2021 09:47

Op you're a lovely person.

I don't have family around so I have a close friend group and we lean on each other when necessary. The attitude on here of never helping anyone outside of your nuclear family and if you do you're a mug really stinks.

Flowers
Polomintee · 04/07/2021 09:53

I think this is very kind of you OP and I agree it's the right thing to do, especially as she's grateful!

Palavah · 04/07/2021 10:01

So pleased you've worked it out! I agree there's a lot of Pontius Pilate handwashing on here sometimes which is sad.

I hope it all goes smoothly.

RainbowOctopus · 04/07/2021 10:09

I only wish to be as kind and giving as you. The kindness and friendship you extend is truly beautiful and what makes the world go round.
I think she possibly felt embarrassed at having to ask again so dropped the misplaced ‘holiday’ comment.
It sounds to me as though you are planning on going so it might be worth you clearing up the comment before you do to avoid ill feelings. ‘I could move my work to come and support you for a couple of weeks but unfortunately I won’t be able to take it as holiday because I have a lot on at work at the moment’.
I doubt she is underestimating the commitment and time caring takes having taken on a fundamental role in the care of both sets of parents as you did.
I hope you find the peace you deserve with this situation.
And thank you, thank you so very much for your loveliness

luvvaduck · 04/07/2021 10:37

Steady on now. It's very kind of people to be so positive about me but I don't imagine I'm any more kind or lovely than the average person. I certainly wasn't feeling kind and lovely when I started this thread.

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Blossomtoes · 04/07/2021 10:52

@luvvaduck

Steady on now. It's very kind of people to be so positive about me but I don't imagine I'm any more kind or lovely than the average person. I certainly wasn't feeling kind and lovely when I started this thread.
You are. 💖
daisypond · 04/07/2021 11:00

@luvvaduck

Steady on now. It's very kind of people to be so positive about me but I don't imagine I'm any more kind or lovely than the average person. I certainly wasn't feeling kind and lovely when I started this thread.
You are. Bearing in mind the depressing number of comments on here from people saying they wouldn’t help and your friend is a CF, you can see that. You’re a breath of fresh air.
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