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Thinking husband is wrong to "punish" daughter for refusing to do covid test

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Niffler2019 · 01/07/2021 16:44

Hi my daughter is 8 and yesterday afternoon we had the dreaded text from her brownies leader to inform us one of the girls who had been at brownies on Tuesday evening had tested positive for covid. I got the text at 3pm Wednesday so dd had already been to school and I didn't know in that situation what we're supposed to do regarding isolating/testing.

We've spoken to NHS 119, school and girl guiding but none of them will advise on whether she should be isolating or not. So my husband decided to get a lateral flow test to try at home and if it was negative we would continue to send her into school.

However no matter what we try dd goes into meltdown as soon as she sees the swab or we try to test her. We have tried calmly explaining, bribery with the promise of ice cream and a magazine, letting her try to do it herself, doing it to ourselves in front of her so she can see it doesn't hurt. Nothing works - she says she'll let us do it but then clamps her hands over her mouth and nose and screams the place down. We had to give in and say the test is there if she decides she wants to try again, otherwise she'll probably have to isolate and miss out on fun things we had planned for the next week but that's her choice.

We've both got to end of our patience as she won't do the test but equally keeps crying about not being able to meet up with friends etc. but I think my husband has gone way OTT. He's basically banished her to her bedroom and said she isn't allowed to do anything except homework or reading for the next 10 days. I'm with him that she shouldn't be having "fun" because I don't want her thinking she can refuse to do the swab and get a week off school to do as she pleases if that makes sense. But she didn't ask for this, I don't think she's done anything naughty yet her dad is acting like she's deliberately defied him.

He also keeps saying hurtful things to her like why are you too much of a coward to do a simple test, calling her silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous, she's disappointed him etc which I think is totally unacceptable. I told him to apologise to her and explain he is frustrated and tired and didn't mean it but he said he won't because he does mean it and I'm too soft on her. He says she needs to hear it or she'll never learn and she needs toughening up. He's also told her she won't be going on a day out he'd promised her and he's going to cancel our holiday in August if she won't have a swab. I think he's coming across as way too strong but he won't have it. What do you think am I right or aibu and too soft?

OP posts:
Suzi888 · 01/07/2021 19:56

Your DH is being unreasonable (and a bit of a twat).

BuckwheatJu · 01/07/2021 19:56

Well, she has deliberately defied you. I would be disappointed in her and would let her know. But, I wouldn't call her names.

Serenschintte · 01/07/2021 19:56

The evidence for asymptotic transmission is very sketchy. I’m 100% for isolating and testing w symptoms - and have done so. But not without. It’s not sustainable or good for mental health to live in this way.

BuckwheatJu · 01/07/2021 19:58

Cajoling a child is one thing but the pair of you forcing your dd to submit to something physical and intrusive that she is clearly distressed by is fucking abhorrent

Would you say the same if she was scared to get a vaccine Hmm

canigooutyet · 01/07/2021 19:58

Forget the not wanting to do the test.

What is your dh's punishment going to be for verbally abusing a child?

It's certainly is not the 8 year old that is being any of these things..

"coward to do a simple test, calling her silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous, she's disappointed him etc which I think is totally unacceptable.

I'd be tempted to Send him to a room and randomly open the door and verbally abuse him starting with a pathetic childish bully.

Even criminals get better treatment that what some people are having due to this fucking virus.

Brown76 · 01/07/2021 20:01

My child managed to do the test on themselves, they are 4, I am not sure whether they did it brilliantly but they did manage to get the swab up both nostrils. It’s having it done to you by someone else that they found unbearable. Maybe when things have calmed down you and if your child develops symptoms you can let them do that.

BuckwheatJu · 01/07/2021 20:02

No one should be forced to have tests on their body.

For anything or just for covid?

osbertthesyrianhamster · 01/07/2021 20:02

@canigooutyet

Forget the not wanting to do the test.

What is your dh's punishment going to be for verbally abusing a child?

It's certainly is not the 8 year old that is being any of these things..

"coward to do a simple test, calling her silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous, she's disappointed him etc which I think is totally unacceptable.

I'd be tempted to Send him to a room and randomly open the door and verbally abuse him starting with a pathetic childish bully.

Even criminals get better treatment that what some people are having due to this fucking virus.

Yep! And plenty of people agree with him, 'she defied you', 'brat', 'I'd be mortified if my child (didn't consent to everything adults tell them to do on their bodies) . . . ' Hmm
MordredsOrrery · 01/07/2021 20:04

Your DH sounds awful and your DD is too young for a lateral flow test - minimum age is 11 years. Leave the poor kid alone and self-isolate if asked by T&T/book a PCR only if she develops symptoms.

canigooutyet · 01/07/2021 20:04

And I'm sure many people would be hysterical if they were forcibly held down and had things done to them what they don't want regardless of their age.

chickenyhead · 01/07/2021 20:04

@BuckwheatJu

Well, she has deliberately defied you. I would be disappointed in her and would let her know. But, I wouldn't call her names.
Really?

Wow

BuckwheatJu · 01/07/2021 20:05

verbally abuse him starting with a pathetic childish bully.

Is it abuse to call a spade a spade? If you feel he is objectively being pathetic, childish, and a bully, how is it abuse to state that ?

Dustyhedge · 01/07/2021 20:11

The tests can be really traumatic for some children. My 2yo is not bothered. Done her a few times abs she just says it tickles. My 5yo is awful to test. She gets so scared I think she is close to needing sedation to do it properly. Fortunately we haven’t had to test for a while but I’m dreading the next time she needs it. It is very easy to be smug if you’ve got a child that finds it ok.

ScrambledSmegs · 01/07/2021 20:15

As other posters have said, your DD is too young for a lateral flow test. Official advice is only for children age 11 and over to use them.

Your poor DD Sad

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 01/07/2021 20:15

@Dustyhedge

The tests can be really traumatic for some children. My 2yo is not bothered. Done her a few times abs she just says it tickles. My 5yo is awful to test. She gets so scared I think she is close to needing sedation to do it properly. Fortunately we haven’t had to test for a while but I’m dreading the next time she needs it. It is very easy to be smug if you’ve got a child that finds it ok.
Absolutely, @Dustyhedge. Good grief, even some adults find them hard to take! My first PCR test felt as if my brains were being removed through my nostrils like an Egyptian mummy and I had to really brace myself for my second one, 2 weeks later, but that was completely different and painfree! I've not had a lateral flow test, so I can't comment on that specifically.
Runmybathforme · 01/07/2021 20:18

So many issues here.
Lateral flow tests are not accurate unless done twice in one week, one test is next to useless.
Of course your daughter must isolate for ten days.
She’s so young, if your husband doesn’t lay off, she could develop a life long fear of medical procedures.
Your husband is a dick.

Mymapuddlington · 01/07/2021 20:21

calling her silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous, she's disappointed him etc

That’s absolutely disgusting and I would be sticking up for her massively.

DS had to have covid tests before surgery and he sobbed, it was awful.

BarbarianMum · 01/07/2021 20:24

She doesnt need to test, she does need to self isolate. There are times when children have to be forced to undergo medical treatment but this isnt one of them. And name calling is never helpful.

canigooutyet · 01/07/2021 20:25

Whatever happened to your body your choice? I didn't realise this came with a list of exemptions. Could someone send me a link to this?

Whatever happened to the word no?
Remember that one?
Often posted on this place no is no.

Seems that no is unless you are a child.

Some fucked up logic and thinking people have.

BarbarianMum · 01/07/2021 20:26

@Dustyhedge just a thought but would your dd be happier if she did the test herself (nose only)? I always hated having stuff done to me as a child (control freak).

rwalker · 01/07/2021 20:27

She needs to isolate regardless she'll of picked up you both aren't on the same page about this .
I would of told her she's doing it and left it at that and told her to come to use when she's ready.

You presented it as a choice and big drama about bribes and everything made it into a huge deal.

It really isn't any different than cleaning your ears

bearandowl · 01/07/2021 20:27

Your DH is a nasty bully. Tell him to lay off her - many poster here have excellent reasons why she does not need to have the - explain it all to him.

claralara42 · 01/07/2021 20:28

Whatever happened to your body your choice? I didn't realise this came with a list of exemptions

You didn't realise that doesn't apply to young children? You should have. When a 2 year old doesn't like teeth brushing its not her body her choice. When a ten year old doesn't want to take the medicine they need its not her body her choice.
And when an 8 year old needs a covid test it is not her body her choice. Its' the parents choice and always has been.

BarbarianMum · 01/07/2021 20:29

@canigooutyet: medical treatment , dentistry, tattoos, food, drink, drugs, nappy changing, going out, washing - these are all things where "my body, my choice" doesnt wholly apply to children. Humans have dependent young, you are maybe muddling them up w blowfly larvae.

Hugoslavia · 01/07/2021 20:31

His comments,whilst born out of frustration, borderline on abusive to me. It's one thing to explain that if she doesn't take the test she will be required to homeschool. The rest, including name calling is just cruel and will do nothing other than upset her further. You don't build up a child's confidence or make them more robust by disciplining them. You build it up through love, nurturing and patience.