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Thinking husband is wrong to "punish" daughter for refusing to do covid test

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Niffler2019 · 01/07/2021 16:44

Hi my daughter is 8 and yesterday afternoon we had the dreaded text from her brownies leader to inform us one of the girls who had been at brownies on Tuesday evening had tested positive for covid. I got the text at 3pm Wednesday so dd had already been to school and I didn't know in that situation what we're supposed to do regarding isolating/testing.

We've spoken to NHS 119, school and girl guiding but none of them will advise on whether she should be isolating or not. So my husband decided to get a lateral flow test to try at home and if it was negative we would continue to send her into school.

However no matter what we try dd goes into meltdown as soon as she sees the swab or we try to test her. We have tried calmly explaining, bribery with the promise of ice cream and a magazine, letting her try to do it herself, doing it to ourselves in front of her so she can see it doesn't hurt. Nothing works - she says she'll let us do it but then clamps her hands over her mouth and nose and screams the place down. We had to give in and say the test is there if she decides she wants to try again, otherwise she'll probably have to isolate and miss out on fun things we had planned for the next week but that's her choice.

We've both got to end of our patience as she won't do the test but equally keeps crying about not being able to meet up with friends etc. but I think my husband has gone way OTT. He's basically banished her to her bedroom and said she isn't allowed to do anything except homework or reading for the next 10 days. I'm with him that she shouldn't be having "fun" because I don't want her thinking she can refuse to do the swab and get a week off school to do as she pleases if that makes sense. But she didn't ask for this, I don't think she's done anything naughty yet her dad is acting like she's deliberately defied him.

He also keeps saying hurtful things to her like why are you too much of a coward to do a simple test, calling her silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous, she's disappointed him etc which I think is totally unacceptable. I told him to apologise to her and explain he is frustrated and tired and didn't mean it but he said he won't because he does mean it and I'm too soft on her. He says she needs to hear it or she'll never learn and she needs toughening up. He's also told her she won't be going on a day out he'd promised her and he's going to cancel our holiday in August if she won't have a swab. I think he's coming across as way too strong but he won't have it. What do you think am I right or aibu and too soft?

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Wearywithteens · 01/07/2021 19:16

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impostersong · 01/07/2021 19:18

If she's been in contact she needs to isolate for 10 days regardless of the results of an LFT so the test is irrelevant!! Your DH is behaving disgustingly, even more so because he's completely wrong about the need to test.

StrongLegs · 01/07/2021 19:19

It's easier if you just do the nose swab. The throat is unneccessary.

toocold54 · 01/07/2021 19:19

@ittakes2 most school children do it twice a week even if they don’t have symptoms so it was probably just picked up on a routine test. This is how 90% of the pupils at my school knew they had it as they didn’t have any symptoms.

IDontReadEyebrows · 01/07/2021 19:20

Your husband is a bullying fuckhead. Calling your child names and yelling at her is out of order.

Pretty sure your daughter has to isolate if she’s been in close contact with someone who’s tested positive, whether she gets a positive test result or not.

Lockdownbear · 01/07/2021 19:20

@whatwouldjudydo

You don't need to put it in her mouth just the nose - I think she should be okay with that surely? My 2 year old did it without a fuss I just played it completely cool and didn't make a fuss.
You'll get away with it the first time. The next time you go to do it, is likely to be a very different story.
Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 01/07/2021 19:21

I am sorry to be rude, but your husband sounds a dreadful, bullying man who doesn't know how to parent properly. Please don't be complicit with his terrible behaviour towards your child.
I've no idea where things stand on isolation, I'm still aghast at the sights I saw at Wembley the other day and am waiting to see the rise in Covid figures as a result, that is if anyone got a proper track and trace system working for those crowds.

Serenschintte · 01/07/2021 19:21

Personally I would carry on with life as normal. If she develops Covid symptoms then isolate. But she may not. My son was in close contact with someone at the start of the pandemic. We isolated. But no one got sick.

KB921 · 01/07/2021 19:22

To me I wouldn't test unless she got symptoms. But she does need to isolate sadly!

Some children really struggle with the tests. DS is 10 and kicked up big time and refused - he is autistic. Dd 6 was fine. It's horrible for them!

osbertthesyrianhamster · 01/07/2021 19:22

I wonder history is going to look back on this entire episode. Not favourably, methinks. Mine have never tested as have never had symptoms. No one should be forced to have tests on their body.

Pin her down as a 7 yr old is such emotive writing though.

Gently holding her arms whilst we cuddle her is so different.

Yes, sure it is Hmm.

Mamanyt · 01/07/2021 19:23

At the risk of sounding icky, you might tell her that it feels about like picking your own nose, something almost every child has done at some point or another.

But your DH is doing more harm than good. I hope this doesn't backfire on him badly.

SleepingStandingUp · 01/07/2021 19:24

@claralara42

I'd be mortified if my 8 year old was so uncontrollable that they couldn't have a medical test. Fortunately none of mine would dream of being so bold.
Some kids are more scared of some things than others. This doesn't sound like she's just being bold or wilful but that she's actually scared. There's nothing mortifying about a young child being scared of something she believes will hurt her and upset her.
osbertthesyrianhamster · 01/07/2021 19:24

@Wearywithteens

Amazed at some pp in here thinking that this is acceptable. Cajoling a child is one thing but the pair of you forcing your dd to submit to something physical and intrusive that she is clearly distressed by is fucking abhorrent. Your husband is cunt but quite frankly you are complicit in this bullying too. Your poor kid.
Oh, they do! It's like Covid made people throw boundaries and consent out the window entirely. And isolating healthy people. Fucking insane.
whynotwhatknot · 01/07/2021 19:27

well i dont know why 119 said they dont know i thought it was obvious you had to isolate but anyway your husband is a dick no need for that sort of reaction

Bythemillpond · 01/07/2021 19:31

Be careful on what you threaten because if your dd is anything like me taking away holidays and days out will mean you are never going on holiday or having a day out again.
Unless you aren’t going to stick to the punishment in which case it is all hot air just to get a child to bend to your will.

IDontReadEyebrows · 01/07/2021 19:31

@KB921

To me I wouldn't test unless she got symptoms. But she does need to isolate sadly!

Some children really struggle with the tests. DS is 10 and kicked up big time and refused - he is autistic. Dd 6 was fine. It's horrible for them!

My son has ASD too and struggled with the test when he had to have one. Managed to get swabs but only just and there was a lot of crying and shouting. No one shouted at him or held him down but the nurse got lucky. We won’t be doing it again to him unless we really have to- like if he is clearly ill and needs medical treatment for example.
Halo1234 · 01/07/2021 19:33

@DrSbaitso no obviously not. Thats mean. Not needed. And not helpful.

loulouljh · 01/07/2021 19:34

How awful. Poor child.

mam0918 · 01/07/2021 19:34

Your both wrong.

LFTs arent for this purpose, you need to isolate for 10 days and do a PCR test if you develope symptoms.

It can take 10 days to become symptomatic so any test now is useless and LFT have a 60% failure rate and should only be use for spot testing NOT exposure testing.

RaginaFalangi · 01/07/2021 19:35

@Serenschintte
Op's dd needs to isolate. So what if you never got ill, her dd could be asymptomatic and infect others and your telling her to let her dd go about life as normal, wtf?

Theunamedcat · 01/07/2021 19:36

@claralara42

I'd be mortified if my 8 year old was so uncontrollable that they couldn't have a medical test. Fortunately none of mine would dream of being so bold.
I would hate for my child to be a people pleaser fortunately they will consent to most things but autonomy is a right I won't remove from them
ihtwsf · 01/07/2021 19:37

I was held down, forced and ridiculed by multiple members of my family for various routine medical procedures that I was terrified of as a kid
As soon as I was old enough I deregistered from doctors and dentists

Similar situation here too.
The way your husband is going on is the perfect way to produce a severe phobia of medical procedures.
I think it's ok to explain that if she doesn't wish to have the test, the consequences are that she will need to isolate for X days and this will mean she won't be able to do X,Y and Z.
Also, fair enough to say that during school hours she has to be doing schoolwork.

But the rest of it is completely OTT. He has called her awful names.
Threatening to cancel the holiday is awful too.
I was terrified of a dental procedure when I was 8 and refused to have it done. My Dad said "If you don't go back in there right now and get it done you can forget going to France (for our holiday)".
Did I go back in to get the procedure done? No... the terror was greater than the threat.
Did we go to France? Yes we did because my Dad did not follow through with the threat.

He needs to back off completely. Awful man.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 01/07/2021 19:47

Too right, TheUnamed. I wouldn't do isolating, either.

Crackbadger · 01/07/2021 19:51

Disgusting abuse.

Birminghambloke · 01/07/2021 19:55

She has to isolate as a close contact of positive case. Lateral flow makes no difference.

I think she is being a brat.