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Thinking husband is wrong to "punish" daughter for refusing to do covid test

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Niffler2019 · 01/07/2021 16:44

Hi my daughter is 8 and yesterday afternoon we had the dreaded text from her brownies leader to inform us one of the girls who had been at brownies on Tuesday evening had tested positive for covid. I got the text at 3pm Wednesday so dd had already been to school and I didn't know in that situation what we're supposed to do regarding isolating/testing.

We've spoken to NHS 119, school and girl guiding but none of them will advise on whether she should be isolating or not. So my husband decided to get a lateral flow test to try at home and if it was negative we would continue to send her into school.

However no matter what we try dd goes into meltdown as soon as she sees the swab or we try to test her. We have tried calmly explaining, bribery with the promise of ice cream and a magazine, letting her try to do it herself, doing it to ourselves in front of her so she can see it doesn't hurt. Nothing works - she says she'll let us do it but then clamps her hands over her mouth and nose and screams the place down. We had to give in and say the test is there if she decides she wants to try again, otherwise she'll probably have to isolate and miss out on fun things we had planned for the next week but that's her choice.

We've both got to end of our patience as she won't do the test but equally keeps crying about not being able to meet up with friends etc. but I think my husband has gone way OTT. He's basically banished her to her bedroom and said she isn't allowed to do anything except homework or reading for the next 10 days. I'm with him that she shouldn't be having "fun" because I don't want her thinking she can refuse to do the swab and get a week off school to do as she pleases if that makes sense. But she didn't ask for this, I don't think she's done anything naughty yet her dad is acting like she's deliberately defied him.

He also keeps saying hurtful things to her like why are you too much of a coward to do a simple test, calling her silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous, she's disappointed him etc which I think is totally unacceptable. I told him to apologise to her and explain he is frustrated and tired and didn't mean it but he said he won't because he does mean it and I'm too soft on her. He says she needs to hear it or she'll never learn and she needs toughening up. He's also told her she won't be going on a day out he'd promised her and he's going to cancel our holiday in August if she won't have a swab. I think he's coming across as way too strong but he won't have it. What do you think am I right or aibu and too soft?

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MagicSummer · 01/07/2021 18:58

Poor child - I sympathise if she has a bad gag reaction. I dread being told I have to have a test because I have the worst reaction imaginable. I find it hard when the dentist works on my back teeth, and once when I had a suspected fish bone caught in my throat, the doctor found it impossible to depress my tongue with the spatula to have a look. Your husband sounds horribly insensitive.

claralara42 · 01/07/2021 18:59

I'd be mortified if my 8 year old was so uncontrollable that they couldn't have a medical test. Fortunately none of mine would dream of being so bold.

Zippy1510 · 01/07/2021 18:59

She needs to isolate regardless so the test is pointless.

Brefugee · 01/07/2021 19:02

several issues here though. First - how can you not know that she needs to isolate? it's been well over a year now.

Second - your husband is being a bit of a dick but i totally get it. It is frustrating. Agree with him that no fun stuff is the way to go.

Third - last - she is 8. We all have to do things that we don't like. It's uncomfortable but it is not painful and your DD needs to start toughening up and doing things like this. Not only for her benefit, but for everyone's. I do feel sorry for her though, i hate having those swabs up my nose

acatcalledjohn · 01/07/2021 19:02

Your husband is a cunt. I don't do lat flow tests because I struggle with the swab going up my nose. I have done one PCR test and it took me ages to do the nose, and I am an adult.

Cosybelles · 01/07/2021 19:02

Jesus this can't be serious! Do not force your child to do the test against her will, that's barbaric! You need to stand up for her.

Lavender24 · 01/07/2021 19:05

@MrsSquirrel

She needs toughening up? Hmm She is 8 ffs.

YANBU By forcing her, you are teaching her father is a bully and that her body is not her own.

Plus there is no requirement for her to test, so the whole drama is unnecessary. Or only necessary for paternal power and control, not for health reasons.

I agree with this.

A disgusting and unnecessary way to treat a child.

BoredZelda · 01/07/2021 19:05

Give her the test to do herself. Dd has been doing them for a while now and manages fine.

RaginaFalangi · 01/07/2021 19:06

OP she needs to isolate. My ds had to isolate when there was a case in his playroom at nursery so will be the same for you dd.

As for your dh he's disgusting I'd be packing his bags and telling him to fuck off.

chickenyhead · 01/07/2021 19:07

@Brefugee

several issues here though. First - how can you not know that she needs to isolate? it's been well over a year now.

Second - your husband is being a bit of a dick but i totally get it. It is frustrating. Agree with him that no fun stuff is the way to go.

Third - last - she is 8. We all have to do things that we don't like. It's uncomfortable but it is not painful and your DD needs to start toughening up and doing things like this. Not only for her benefit, but for everyone's. I do feel sorry for her though, i hate having those swabs up my nose

The test is not for anyone's benefit, she is too young.

Why the hell shouldn't she do any fun things, she hasn't done anything wrong!

I must live on another planet

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 01/07/2021 19:08

Banished to bedroom and cancelling the family holiday over a swap. You have all evening to test. It could have been left until she'd calmed down.
She is terrified of the whole idea of Covid and I don't blame her. She's 8 and they have had so much of this at school its the new monster.
The bullying nasty behaviour of your DH does not help in any way. Where are his parenting skills. This is 2021 not 1821
She doesn't need to be sent to her room for defiance and punished by being told its homework for 10 days if she's trying to get off school. So utterly tone deaf since she's crying saying that she can't see her friends, AND she's clearly upset by more than the thought of the test now if she's being told off and accused of all this devious behaviour. Your DH is escalating this into a high drama and is surprised at her reaction?
Poor Poor girl. I hope you manage to stand up for her. YANBU.
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chickenyhead · 01/07/2021 19:08

@claralara42

I'd be mortified if my 8 year old was so uncontrollable that they couldn't have a medical test. Fortunately none of mine would dream of being so bold.
Congratulations 👏
Halo1234 · 01/07/2021 19:08

In my world 8 years have a say over their bodies and in this case I wouldnt have did the test either. She is not symptomatic and has to isolate anyway.
However both parents felt the medical test was needed. Thats up to them. I wouldnt be over ruled by my child when it comes to serious decisions such as a medical test/procedure. However I do listen to my children and respect them. They have lots of control in their lives which is important. I listen to them. Respect them. Give detailed explanations. Show empathy to their opinion. But ultimately I would not be over ruled by them if I felt it was needed and important.

Halo1234 · 01/07/2021 19:10

@chickenyhead

Brefugee · 01/07/2021 19:10

sorry, yes, the fun things was wrong. She should have fun things.

but i still agree that she needs to start learning to do some uncomfortable things - having her dad shout abuse at her isn't the way to help her do this.

chickenyhead · 01/07/2021 19:11

@Halo1234

In my world 8 years have a say over their bodies and in this case I wouldnt have did the test either. She is not symptomatic and has to isolate anyway. However both parents felt the medical test was needed. Thats up to them. I wouldnt be over ruled by my child when it comes to serious decisions such as a medical test/procedure. However I do listen to my children and respect them. They have lots of control in their lives which is important. I listen to them. Respect them. Give detailed explanations. Show empathy to their opinion. But ultimately I would not be over ruled by them if I felt it was needed and important.
Makes sense, if it is necessary
toocold54 · 01/07/2021 19:11

If someone has genuine worries about something the worst thing you can do is pressure them into doing it. Imagine doing a skydive and panicking and someone shouting at you to hurry up and stop being such a coward etc it would have the opposite affect.
I can see why he’d be frustrated as it’s such a simple thing to do but to her it’s obviously a big deal and by him getting aggressive and being rude he’s made it into a way bigger deal.
He needs to sit her down and listen to her concerns and reassure her. If you all do it together she may feel a bit more comfortable.

DrSbaitso · 01/07/2021 19:11

@Halo1234

In my world 8 years have a say over their bodies and in this case I wouldnt have did the test either. She is not symptomatic and has to isolate anyway. However both parents felt the medical test was needed. Thats up to them. I wouldnt be over ruled by my child when it comes to serious decisions such as a medical test/procedure. However I do listen to my children and respect them. They have lots of control in their lives which is important. I listen to them. Respect them. Give detailed explanations. Show empathy to their opinion. But ultimately I would not be over ruled by them if I felt it was needed and important.
And would you call them a coward, as well as "silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous", threaten to cancel a holiday and guilt trip them for "disappointing" you?
Moomala · 01/07/2021 19:12

He is going way ott about this. There is actual advice not to do the at home test with kids as it causes to much anxiety. I did one ages ago with my child and he had a meltdown so I didn't bother.

ittakes2 · 01/07/2021 19:12

Sorry for the side angle but I am a bit surprised that a child has gone to brownies Tues evening, developed symptoms after that, has had a test and the results are known before 3pm the next day? I don't know where you are in england but we have never had same day results so I am a bit suspicious the child tested before brownies (maybe as a close contact themselves) and thought they would be OK as had no symtoms and so went to brownies anyway.

Miiaaoow · 01/07/2021 19:14

My dad used to behave like that towards me regarding similar things. And do you know what? My dad is going to die a very lonely old man. Feel free to tell your husband that.

Polkadots2021 · 01/07/2021 19:14

Your little girl is loving through a pandemic & she just heard herself &/or her friends might have caught it, which is scary, so of course she needs love & understanding, calmness, patience & hey, it's a good chance to learn about facing fears, gentle encouragement, massive positive reinforcement for being brave and so on, maybe more family time that you're all looking forward to of she has to isolate....

Instead she gets a barrage of abuse, histrionic overreactions, nasty abusive belittling Name calling, being forced to sit in her room for days so she doesn't (Heaven forbid) have any fun....

What's the point in bringing all this negativity and misery? There's no need for it, it's horrible.

Bythemillpond · 01/07/2021 19:15

Halo1234

The name calling is too much and so is all the consequences. Your daughter needs to know when it comes to serious decisions mum and dad decide. Its OK to be nervous but its very black and white she has to do the test. I wouldnt have allowed her to refuse tbh

No she doesn’t need to do a test. It would be pointless.
She needs to isolate and I would think whoever she has come into contact with needs to isolate.

I don’t have the throat swabs as I have a terrible gag reflex and I have to have these done everyday I work and also sometimes the day before work.

Winnona · 01/07/2021 19:16

You have a DH problem.

toocold54 · 01/07/2021 19:16

Also for all of those saying she has to isolate anyway I believe the rules may have changed now. We have almost half a secondary school off because entire bubbles are having to isolate for the 10 days. But today we’ve had 3 more positive cases and their bubbles have been told to isolate until they’ve taken a PCR test, if it comes back negative they’re allowed to return to school. My school is strict on the rules too so I’m wondering if government guidance has changed which is why the DH is being so over the top about the test.

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