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Thinking husband is wrong to "punish" daughter for refusing to do covid test

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Niffler2019 · 01/07/2021 16:44

Hi my daughter is 8 and yesterday afternoon we had the dreaded text from her brownies leader to inform us one of the girls who had been at brownies on Tuesday evening had tested positive for covid. I got the text at 3pm Wednesday so dd had already been to school and I didn't know in that situation what we're supposed to do regarding isolating/testing.

We've spoken to NHS 119, school and girl guiding but none of them will advise on whether she should be isolating or not. So my husband decided to get a lateral flow test to try at home and if it was negative we would continue to send her into school.

However no matter what we try dd goes into meltdown as soon as she sees the swab or we try to test her. We have tried calmly explaining, bribery with the promise of ice cream and a magazine, letting her try to do it herself, doing it to ourselves in front of her so she can see it doesn't hurt. Nothing works - she says she'll let us do it but then clamps her hands over her mouth and nose and screams the place down. We had to give in and say the test is there if she decides she wants to try again, otherwise she'll probably have to isolate and miss out on fun things we had planned for the next week but that's her choice.

We've both got to end of our patience as she won't do the test but equally keeps crying about not being able to meet up with friends etc. but I think my husband has gone way OTT. He's basically banished her to her bedroom and said she isn't allowed to do anything except homework or reading for the next 10 days. I'm with him that she shouldn't be having "fun" because I don't want her thinking she can refuse to do the swab and get a week off school to do as she pleases if that makes sense. But she didn't ask for this, I don't think she's done anything naughty yet her dad is acting like she's deliberately defied him.

He also keeps saying hurtful things to her like why are you too much of a coward to do a simple test, calling her silly, selfish, bratty, stupid, ridiculous, she's disappointed him etc which I think is totally unacceptable. I told him to apologise to her and explain he is frustrated and tired and didn't mean it but he said he won't because he does mean it and I'm too soft on her. He says she needs to hear it or she'll never learn and she needs toughening up. He's also told her she won't be going on a day out he'd promised her and he's going to cancel our holiday in August if she won't have a swab. I think he's coming across as way too strong but he won't have it. What do you think am I right or aibu and too soft?

OP posts:
ThursdayWeld · 01/07/2021 17:51

Your husband sounds like a bully.

pucelleauxblanchesmains · 01/07/2021 17:52

I mean this genuinely - he sounds like the abusive dad I'm trying to distance myself from, all the names he used to call me

feathersandferns · 01/07/2021 17:52

It's a nightmare with kids. I have a hard enough time swabbing myself as an adult! I know if I was 8 it would have panicked me. I am grateful that my kids are little enough to get in a cuddle hold and bribe with chocolate for swabs, but even then it's v stressful. I think you are right not to let her have a week of fun, but I think her dad is wrong to belittle her and call her names for not being able to submit to a frankly uncomfortable medical test.

SleepingStandingUp · 01/07/2021 17:52

Op what were you doing whilst he was being a nasty, vile bully? Were you standing by watching him name call and threaten her or sticking up for her? Are you scared of the consequences of standing up for her?

I don't care whether she isolates or doesn't, but he's an absolute shit and it would be a deal breaker for me

DidSheGetOffThePlane · 01/07/2021 17:52

Your husband sounds vile. My father was the same; very harsh about any perceived misendeavour and spouted bile at me. As a result I have mental health conditions that I will never fully recover from due to ongoing childhood trauma.

As others have said, your DD needs to isolate regardless of what any test results may or may not say. I can't say I blame her for not wanting to do the test; they're horrible and uncomfortable to do, not to mention the gagging that can happen.

ASandwichNamedKevin · 01/07/2021 17:52

I feel so sorry for your DD with such a nasty vindictive person for a father. What an awful role model. I don't think I could have any respect for him.

warmandtoasty2day · 01/07/2021 17:52

don't expect your dd to forget any of this abusive behaviour.
In your shoes I'd be so embarrassed to even admit to this, you might do better to have it removed. Stick up for your dd, she's fair more important than her bully of a father.

sirfredfredgeorge · 01/07/2021 17:53

She is a close contact of a positive case

How have you identified this from "a child at brownies tested positive" ?

You have no idea what was happening at brownies, how contact was managed, what procedures they had in place for limiting contact etc.

To decide to isolate a child on such little information is almost as abusive as the parents.

Popcornriver · 01/07/2021 17:54

YANBU and I can't believe the amount of people saying you are after you listed the horrible things your husband said to your 8 year old. Arsehole.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/07/2021 17:54

Good on your dd for having bodily autonomy. Your husband sounds like an abusive dick. He is traumatising your child. Whatever you do, please do not follow through on these ridiculous threats.

There is no way on Earth my dd would have allowed someone to swab her age 8. At 13 she regularly takes a LFT but it was a step by step process. She has a medical condition and is pretty traumatised by all things medical, which actually triggers the condition as it can be induced by anxiety as well as illness and pain.

ASandwichNamedKevin · 01/07/2021 17:54

@pucelleauxblanchesmains

I mean this genuinely - he sounds like the abusive dad I'm trying to distance myself from, all the names he used to call me
Good luck @pucelleauxblanchesmains

Remember always that he was the adult and you the child and you never deserved any of that abusive treatment. 💐

Caulidop · 01/07/2021 17:55

Lateral flow tests aren't intended for 8 year olds. So this whole situation is unreasonable.

seven201 · 01/07/2021 17:55

How do 119, girl guides and school all not know that the rules are she must self isolate for 10 days? Unless it's because she wasn't actually anywhere near her at all at guides?

toocold54 · 01/07/2021 17:56

Your husband is a massive twat!

Firstly forget the LFT I’d order a PCR test as they’re more accurate and if the LFT is positive she’ll have to do a PCR one anyway so there’s no point putting her through it twice.
I would lay off her for a day and then once the PCR test arrives ask her to do it again. Maybe you could get a LFT and do it yourself to show her. She can just do the nostrils if it’s easier (although I prefer the throat part). If it makes you sneeze you could laugh about it and hopefully it will relax her a bit.

Nocutenamesleft · 01/07/2021 18:00

We’re in this almost EXACT situation

Track and trace told us. Isolate for 10 days. Regardless of a negative test. I know because they asked if we’d like to do a PCR test. I said does it change the outcome. They said no.

So we refused. I would of gladly done it. Had it if changed it. But it doesn’t

So regardless. It’s now 10 days at home. Can’t go out for a walk. can’t go get food. That’s it.

Nocutenamesleft · 01/07/2021 18:01

@BeingATwatItsABingThing

He is a dick!

My DD also absolutely hates having a test and it takes us pinning her and then doing the test followed by immediately shoving chocolate in her mouth. She’s 7. It’s really traumatic.

Our response to all of this is to empathise about how much we don’t want to do it and big praise when it’s done.

I wouldn’t care what your DD had or hadn’t done, calling her any of those names would not be accepted by me. I would lose my shit completely and I would be telling my DD that her dad was completely wrong and unreasonable. Your DD needs to know her dad’s behaviour is awful.

As for having 10 days of misery, why? Even if she gets a negative LFT, she should be isolating after close contact with someone who tested positive.

Why do you pin her down?
AliceMcK · 01/07/2021 18:02

You both sound awful i'm with him that she shouldn't be having "fun" because I don't want her thinking she can refuse to do the swab and get a week off school to do as she pleases she’s fucking 8 ffs. If she’s been in contact with someone she has to isolate, it’s that simple, test or no test. If anything she should be disappointed in her parents behaviour and lack of understanding and empathy for their 8 year old child!

Imnothereforthedrama · 01/07/2021 18:03

Absolutely ridiculous and a complete overreacting, tell your husband stop being such a bully .
You’ve not been told to isolate so just carry on .
My dc also can’t take a test but I don’t force him and leave it .
This the world we live on people bullying children to have tests and cause them distress disgusting.

Watchingyou2sleezes · 01/07/2021 18:04

Your husband is a stupid cunt.

There is absolutely no need to test a healthy child.

chickenyhead · 01/07/2021 18:04

It's really sad that nobody has her back. Her life is upside down for no fault of her own and she is being punished with isolation.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 01/07/2021 18:05

Why do you pin her down?

By pin her down, I mean one of us holds her in a cuddle and the other swabs her. We gave her the option of doing it herself and she didn’t want to. Before anyone attacks me, she’s fine immediately afterwards as it’s the thought of it that upsets her more than the actual test. She literally immediately gets over it.

We only do a PCR test for symptoms though.

Nocutenamesleft · 01/07/2021 18:06

@Squeakerfoot

The test can been relatively fine for some children and massively unpleasant, even unbearable, for others. Your husband is making it more and more daunting.

It's not on to insult your child like that and it's not going to help encourage her to get swabbed. I understand how frustrating it is. I have one child who hates the tests that much too and I've had moments of feeling impatient. It can take a really long time to get anywhere with it. However I've tried to encourage, explain, distract and reward as well as acknowledging that it is an unpleasant thing.

It wouldn't have occurred to me to punish my child for their fear of being swabbed, let alone to insult them. The most I've said about consequences was that if they did not let me test them we would be stuck in isolation and that would be really hard. But I also said that in a context of trying to work together to come up with the most comfortable plan for doing the test. However it sounds like you may be stuck in isolation even without a test so maybe leave it for now and then next time you need to test her, don't let your husband anywhere near.

Meanwhile I wouldn't let my partner say anything close to these things to my child.

I hear that!

My eldest was traumatised by her one and only test at a test centre. I would never force her again.

My youngest who is 7. Has had to have 6. She’s in the hospital for an illness. So has to have them a lot. She laughs every time!

Kids react different. Though I understand people say things in frustration. However she won’t have it now. So that’s that really. You’ll have to isolate.

saraclara · 01/07/2021 18:09

That too. The whole episode was pointless.

Nocutenamesleft · 01/07/2021 18:09

@BeingATwatItsABingThing

Why do you pin her down?

By pin her down, I mean one of us holds her in a cuddle and the other swabs her. We gave her the option of doing it herself and she didn’t want to. Before anyone attacks me, she’s fine immediately afterwards as it’s the thought of it that upsets her more than the actual test. She literally immediately gets over it.

We only do a PCR test for symptoms though.

Pin her down as a 7 yr old is such emotive writing though.

Gently holding her arms whilst we cuddle her is so different.

HereticFanjo · 01/07/2021 18:10

Don't ask me why but the LFT swabs are extra tickly! Just take her for proper PCR test and let her swab herself up nose.

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