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Abiu To put 1 year old to bed hungry?

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Pops042020 · 29/06/2021 15:45

Abiu to put my 1 year old to bed hungry if she doesn't eat the meal I make, this last week she has decided she doesn't want to eat anything I give her on a spoon she doesn't even look at it or smell it and definitely doesn't try it, it's just straight away shaking had and crying she's hungry because she takes her dummy out then cries. This last week Ive given in and made her toast before bed and I feel like shes just waiting for the toast.
Would I be unreasonable to just not offer her anything else but the meal I'm making tonight (cottage pie) and if she doesn't eat it then she goes to bed hungry with her bottle of milk?

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user1471538283 · 29/06/2021 18:46

She is a baby! You cannot do this!

SuperCaliFragalistic · 29/06/2021 18:47

My kids would so often refuse meals and seemed happy to go to bed on an empty stomach. I never really thought about providing them with a range of alternatives, which they probably wouldn't have eaten anyway.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 29/06/2021 18:48

Fucking hell @Pops042020 she's baby! Get a fucking grip. Poor baby.

Sleeplessem · 29/06/2021 18:51

@EleanorOlephantisjustfine

This is cruel and neglectful. She’s a baby. Please don’t do this. She won’t sleep because she’ll be hungry and you’ll have a long night with her.
Awful advice
Piglet89 · 29/06/2021 18:53

omg I am hard as nails (sleep trained with CIO, tellings off for stuff which is really just my son being inquisitive but which is ANNOYING at times)

I could never send him to bed hungry. Just give her toast.

KatieKat88 · 29/06/2021 18:57

OP no wonder you're stressed, so many people terrify you with sleep advice that talks about making a rod for your own back so no wonder you'd think the same applies to food. (I don't think it applies to sleep or to food for what it's worth). You've had some fab advice above so I won't add much more than to say its a phase. It's all a phase. It will get better (and then a bit worse again and then better again!) You're clearly a good mum or you wouldn't be worrying about what your child was eating.

Pops042020 · 29/06/2021 19:02

Thank you to all the lovely people who gave me great advice.
She is now in her cot fast asleep but I'd just like to confirm before anymore allegations of neglect are thrown out I did not and would not have put her to bed without food it was being suggested to me to do so and I wanted to get further advice, however I will agree the title of the thread probably didn't do me any favours.

She has now eaten a little cottage pie with chocolate ready brek on it a yoghurt and I made her some eggy bread with cinnamon on before she went to bed at half 6.

I do think it may well be a developmental stage where she wants to do things herself as she really does prefer picky food but she is slightly fussy she doesn't like cheese tuna ham eggs (unless cooked into something) and cucumber those things make her physically gag. Fingers crossed she just gets over this phase soon and I can have my happy little girl who eats everything back

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 29/06/2021 19:15

I have two DC. One eats anything one is particular. Weve tried the "this is all there is, at it or starve" (older than yours is), weve tried all alternatives suggested on the many threads on here. She remains particular. And willing to go without if we try and force it.

Thankfully, of the things she does like, we can ensure all her food groups are met and she is able to eat similar to the rest of us (separated elements etc) for a good chunk of meals.

She will not become a person who "will eat anything" by me doing anything different. At some point she may get there herself.

Your dd may not be "eats anything and everything" child. But that's ok. There are lots of adults who have perfectly legitimate food dislikes.

Retrievemysanity · 29/06/2021 19:25

Hi OP, my eldest DD was really tricky to feed as a toddler partly because of sensory issues. I used to have to disguise everything in mashed potato! She’s now 13 and eats really well bless her. My youngest was a dream, ate everything and I was the smug mother at baby groups. She’s now 10 and eats only pasta Hmm

dopeyduck · 29/06/2021 19:42

Of course YABU. Your 1 y/o is a baby and can't possibly understand the connection you're making.

I'm not sure why you need MN to tell you to feed a very young toddler / baby.

Head wobbled?

skodadoda · 29/06/2021 19:51

‘She used to eat anything I gave her now she will eat her breakfast and refuse lunch no matter what it is it could be chocolate and she wouldn't eat it and she refuses dinner most days now’

I think it’s a fairly common pattern at this age. Breakfast goes down well because they’re hungry and not tired. Less enthusiasm for lunch or tea. Appetite seems to be lower in 2nd year. Could you give her more at breakfast? If she gets plenty of milk then that’s good.

MrsDThomas · 29/06/2021 20:07

Fuckinghell. She is 1 yrs old. 🙄

MaryMashedThem · 29/06/2021 20:50

OP I feel your pain! DS is 19 months and juuust starting to eat somewhat reliably. When he was 15 months he would eat 3 meals and 2 snacks with his dad, but with me there were days where he ate one raisin and refused anything else except milk.

I found a few helpful things online that helped make the whole thing less stressful for me:
In terms of nutrition, look at what they're eating over the course of a week. If some days all they eat is raisins toast but they're getting all the food groups in over a week, that's the main thing. And in terms of portion size, one of your 5 a day at 1 year old is just a tablespoon.
Offer something you know they'll eat at every meal. If that means putting a few crisps (or some ready brek!) on her plate each meal, do that. It makes meal times less stressful for them if they know there'll be something they like there, and they're more likely to try something else if it's not ALL new stuff.
And the hardest one for me: be suuuuper nonchalant about the whole thing. No hovering while she eats (obviously be nearby for safety, but be doing your own thing / eating your dinner), no "one more bite" or airplane noises, no cheering when she eats... just relax your shoulders and your face, put her food down and tell her what it is, and when she's done - even if that's after zero bites - say "ok" Smile and take the plate away.

Your DDs behaviour sounds totally within the range of normal. It's just so stressful when youre in the thick of it!

I've recommended her on here before but I find Kids Eat in Colour (on FB / insta) really helpful and reassuring for all things toddler-food related. She's a registered dietician specialising in children's eating.

You're doing a great job at a difficult time, OP Smile

Annoymoususer · 29/06/2021 20:56

I remember my nephew was a fussy eater who wouldnt eat anything but yoghurt, he went to doctors and doctor said feed him yoghurt anything is better than nothing! Babies going into toddler hood can be difficult, it's a time they are testing out everything around them, including their parents patience..
Your baby might like toast because she can pick it up and eat it herself, after all she see her mummy eat her food herself so in her little mind she wants to eat things herself she's showing you she wants to eat all by herself, so why not finger foods rather than spoon feeding her?

MissChanandlerBong90 · 29/06/2021 21:04

It’s actually really common advice not to offer an alternative if a baby refuses what’s in front of them. I’ve seen it spouted loads of times - I can remember seeing a post from Joe Wicks on Instagram a while back about how his daughter is a really good eater because they never offer alternatives. So I don’t think the pile-on making out the OP is some sort of neglectful monster is fair.

FWIW OP, as other posters have said, I try to offer things I know they’ll eat alongside things I’m unsure if they’ll eat. And also as others have said, at this exact age my son started refusing to eat anything off a spoon which I think is really common.

Glad you got her to eat tonight.

Thesmallthings · 29/06/2021 21:22

Have you tried letting her feed her self

She could be crying because she's finding her self and wants to feed her self.

Streamside · 29/06/2021 21:28

She's a baby. Try to break this cycle of food refusal by making a complete break of routine. Take her outside for an impromptu picnic, try anything just don't get into the mind set of trying to teach her a lesson which she won't understand.

Xmassprout · 29/06/2021 21:32

At that age i would still offer toast. I know it can be really frustrating. I do think at that age you should keep mealtimes relaxed and fun so they don't have negative connotations with mealtimes.

I found around that age, my youngest had a preference for milk over solid food. For a good few months she barely ate anything and we didn't make a big deal out of it. Now she eats just as much as her big sister. Could just be a developmental thing

mag2305 · 29/06/2021 21:36

I personally feel that's too harsh for a one year old. My 2 year old ds is a picky eater sometimes. However, if he really refuses to eat something then it's likely because he's coming down with something or teeth coming through. In which case, I don't care what he eats as long as he eats.

I don't think withholding food is going to do anything positive at that age. Plus, it could disrupt her sleep if she was to wake up feeling hungry.

NowEvenBetter · 29/06/2021 21:37

Gagging is normal, she’s learning how to chew and move food round her mouth. Whoever is giving you ‘advice’, you can safely disregard everything they have to say about raising a kid.

GettingItOutThere · 29/06/2021 21:40

offer her toast/crumpets or porridge? something stodgy

no i would not put any child to bed hungry, until old enough to understand consequences.

or bribe!

Graphista · 29/06/2021 21:46

Op I'm glad my post was useful. It's incredibly worrying and stressful when they won't eat! (Won't sleep, teethe, get sick etc)

I've been looking after babies since I was 13 solo and was a nanny before having dd and then became a childminder when she was a year old.

Yet in that first year at times I forgot my own knowledge and experience!

There were 2 particular occasions when I phoned my own mum in bits and then when she'd finally calmed me down (and could understand what the hell I was saying!)

Each time she ended up saying to me like "seriously?! Have you forgotten your own experience?" And then proceeded to remind me of basic tips and tricks that I DID know but had forgotten amidst the stress, sleep deprivation, hormones etc

Really basic stuff - real d'oh moments for me

It's hard to see the big picture when you're at the eye of the storm.

Mn can be great for outside the box ideas but it can be judgey and eye rolly sometimes too.

Personally I don't think they're old enough at this age to learn the "if you don't eat that you're getting nowt else" rule - there is a time and place for that and this isn't that time. Older toddlers/preschool and definitely school age can learn this one BUT remember too that she is a little person in her own right and is allowed likes and dislikes too. Just like adults. If you notice a particular food isn't liked on a long term basis just don't offer it.

My dd (now 20) also can't stand cucumber never has liked it. She also doesn't like chips or potatoes generally and doesn't like deep fried foods. Somewhat unusual for her generation Grin we found out many years later it was due to these foods are an irritant to her due to a disability that wasn't dx until she was 12

I've always hated radishes, sprouts and most meat (I went veggie at 16 and started eating much more having been a "fussy" eater until that point), turns out red meat seriously aggravates my stomach (on the odd occasion I've eaten red meat or red meat byproducts since, even quite soon after I went veggie when labelling wasn't so good I've ended up seriously ill inc being hospitalised once I was that bad with d&v)

My mum never liked seafood as a child but had it pressed on her on trips to the seaside as a "treat" until one time when she took a massive allergic reaction resulting in ambulance the lot!

I'm of the opinion often dislikes indicate that food doesn't suit that person for whatever reason now and so I think we should listen to our bodies and encourage dc to do so too - but you have to balance that with not encouraging unwarranted fussiness too.

My ex was terribly fussy when I met him largely I believe because he was the youngest of 4 and his mother babied him and when he went through the usual toddler fussiness/tantrums she pandered to it with him (even though she didn't with the others) and by the time I met him there were literally 6 foods he would eat! He had major issues around eating out etc too. I gradually weaned (pun intended) him onto a wider ranging diet, got him cooking, finding recipes, eating in restaurants he would never even have considered when I met him. But man it was hard work to do that with an adult!

It's a balancing act. I wouldn't entertain "like carrots today don't like them for a week then decide I like them again" nonsense but a genuine dislike is fair enough.

Please remember it's all a phase at this age.

Sometimes hated phrase on mn but true and applies to so much

This too shall pass

My dd went through a phase while teething that the only things she'd eat were frozen carrot batons, toast, cheese and yogurt, the occasional piece of apple... very worrying but the hv reassured me that she was still gaining weight, wasn't lethargic or otherwise ill and this wouldn't last and right enough it passed fairly soon after.

As I say REALLY hard when you're in the eye of the storm...but make for great embarrassing family anecdotes when they're teens - and eating you out of house and home!! Wink

NigellaSeed · 29/06/2021 21:57

@MaryMashedThem thank you for your really insightful comment

MummyCroft · 29/06/2021 22:00

I read a post on Instagram recently to give them 3 things: something they love, something they like and something to learn. I've paid for a fussy eater webinar by SR nutrition. Maybe worth a look?

HeyDemonsItsYaGirl · 29/06/2021 22:09

Sleeplessem You haven't properly understood what your £150-a-week dietician said. Stop bleating "bad advice" at people.