To send child to school with no breakfast.

[LittleBlackCat22]

I feel really guilty, although I know they have bagels in class in the morning plus snack at half 10.

She refused to get out of bed this morning until it was time to leave, then refused to get dressed. She was 25 minutes late for school and if she had breakfast too that would have made her even later! She’s 6, and seriously pushing boundaries atm. She loves school, so not a school issue. Just very much not a morning person.

@angstridden2

Probably missing the point but do primary schools now provide a second breakfast at morning break? When I taught and when my children were at school it was bring your own piece of fruit and then later the school received fruit to give the younger children. Is this now a thing everywhere?

In my experience there is generally a little clump of children in every school who come to school without breakfast so they are fed at school. It's usually children who are well known to school for safeguarding / other reasons. It is not a practice which is funded so I very much doubt it is most children in a state primary. Fruit only.

@LittleBlackCat22

I’ve just spoken to my dad about it and his response was “you were fucking horrible from 6-20. It’s called karma babe.”

6-20....yikes, 14 years of it.... Good luck

YANBU. I mean, she won’t starve even without the mid-morning snack will she?

I know lots of infant school aged children who are very tired from school and regularly to bed at 6.15 or 6.30.

Work backwards from what time she is waking to calculate how many hours sleep she needs. Then move her bedtime earlier to allow her to get up in plenty of time to get ready and eat breakfast before school, eg 7.30am. If she's a pain to get up build in extra time for that!!

She gets 13 hours, she’s doesn’t need anymore than that. She was not tired at all, she was just refusing to get out of bed.

Its not neglect if food is available.

I would look at earlier to bed, or earlier wake up calls to get her going, I can understand not wanting to rush up stuff food down my gullet and go if I am not a morning person.

Something to think about is maybe reducing carbs the night before as they are soperific.

All bodies work slightly differently in the way they react to food and or sleep she will have to learn to get up in the morning at least till she is 18 if in school and then for work so worth experimenting a bit now.

@RonniePickering

That comment is so unnecessary,pull your judgy pants up dear.

They’re fully hoicked, dahling.

Then you need to change them ASAP.Your sore crotch makes you rather cranky.

If you can reach, what about removing the duvet? Make it less cosy?
I am not a morning person but as soon as someone take the duvet and opens the curtains it's much less cosy and I'm going to get out quicker!

Cold wet flannel on the face always worked to me too. Although if you can't reach you'd need to tie a string to it so you can get it back for another throw 🤣🤣

I never ate before school and neither does my youngest, just not a food person first thing in the morning. It’s fine. If she has bagels AND snack why would you need to give her breakfast anyway?

What is the recipe? I need this!!

I think I need to accept that it’s time to adjust my parenting a bit too. She’s never needed me to discipline her really as she’s always been text book until we moved and now she’s a nightmare.

There are plenty of days that will not be perfect in terms of parenting on your part or behaviour on your child's part, OP. Don't stress, she will settle. My kids were never that enthusiastic about breakfast and don't both at all now that they are teenagers. My eldest claims eating food first thing makes her feel queasy. Someone has probably all ready mentioned this but growth spurts will make her feel tired too. My eldest went through a phase of sleeping very heavily and wouldnot get up in the mornings for school. I got so annoyed with her one day I put her pet ferret in the bed with he, thinking his desire to play and tendency to nip if you didn't give in, would get her up. Little sod curled up and went to sleep with her!

My youngest is the opposite - he will eat loads in the morning but come tea time he is tired, cranky and often not hungry. As long as she is eating enough overall it's not the end of the world, I load DS up with porridge, eggs and fruit earlier in the day which levels out the minimal dinner consumption!

If it’s starting to become a problem, I’d get the school onside. They really like to please teachers at that age and a little chat might work wonders. Worth a go - if anything at least they’ll know it’s not you making her late. Our school would definitely try to help you.

Then you need to change them ASAP.Your sore crotch makes you rather cranky.

That’s what’s doing it!
off to look for crotchless judgy pants

Sorry OP, just saw your post where you said she was hungry and wanted breakfast. Oh well, she'll learn to get moving in the morning then. Please don't beat yourself up over this.

@NaturalBlondeYeahRight I’ll see how she goes. She’s never been late before this so the first time it’s ever happens and may well be a one off.

You could try tickling her out of bed.

My DD is 7 and also terrible in the mornings. My saving grace is that we have a 15 minute drive to school in the morning so she has breakfast in the car. If I didn't do this she wouldn't eat in the mornings so it's a compromise.

We all have the odd morning where everything goes wrong so for today it's not the end of the world and she definitely won't starve. If it's a regular thing and it makes life easier find some car breakfasts 😊

You can't force feed her and its way over the top to have her late for school, so what else can you do. She will be fine.

She’s lucky she gets a bagel for snack! Most primary schools around here only supply fruit for snack, and that’s only for early years/KS1! Maybe you could give her a banana to eat on the way to school?

@SaltAndVinegarSandwiches

It's not ideal but really OP you're worrying about nothing. She won't starve by waiting until 10:30 for a snack. My eldest is very much not a morning person either. I've started making breakfast muffins (basically banana, eggs and oats and sometimes a little dark chocolate) and he eats it on the way in to school.

Love the sound of your breakfast muffins!!

She’d be going to bed half an hour earlier tonight and if she did the same tomorrow she’s be in bed a further 30 Minutes earlier.

She’s taking the mick because you’re pregnant and more vulnerable.

Please can we have the banana/oat muffin recipe?

We frequently have breakfast in the car. But I have a reluctant riser as well (DS12) and so I have a stash of on the run last resort breakfasts like cereal bars around. May not be ideal (and I am sure I will be blasted for sugar content etc) but sometimes you just do what you need to do.