To send child to school with no breakfast.

[LittleBlackCat22]

I feel really guilty, although I know they have bagels in class in the morning plus snack at half 10.

She refused to get out of bed this morning until it was time to leave, then refused to get dressed. She was 25 minutes late for school and if she had breakfast too that would have made her even later! She’s 6, and seriously pushing boundaries atm. She loves school, so not a school issue. Just very much not a morning person.

There are no circumstances where you deprive a child of a meal. Yes it would have made her later for school and what? You think her education would be be impacted? Your daughter is in year 1/2.

Get a grip. She'll learn if she wants breakfast then she needs to get up when her mum tells her to!

That would work if they weren't given a substantial snack at school (basically a 2nd breakfast). She won't get hungry enough to learn that lesson.

If anyone has issues it's the person assuming everyone eats their daily calorie intake in equal meals over the day exactly the same way you do and by analysing the calories in every single meal. No one without food issues because a real actual nutritionist would not be so ignorant as to know they needed a wider picture. You're obsessed @Lagomtransplant I don't need help . You're the one making very odd little fake facts.

oops, I misread your OP, I thought you said was 16!
so I take back "it's all on her". sorry.

at 6 an occasional morning without breakfast is fine, but obv if she never wants to eat then some compensation needs to be established on a regular base.
I think I'd talk to school so they know there's an issue.

what does your DS say, is she not hungry after waking? maybe you could pack a small snack as extra so she could have that with or instead of 10am bagel, or earlier?

YA still NBU😁

There are no circumstances where you deprive a child of a meal. Yes it would have made her later for school and what? You think her education would be be impacted?

Christ parenting has changed Does no one else remember being enough of an arsehole to be "sent to bed with no dinner, young lady"?

@Cam2020

There are no circumstances where you deprive a child of a meal. Yes it would have made her later for school and what? You think her education would be be impacted? Your daughter is in year 1/2.

Get a grip. She'll learn if she wants breakfast then she needs to get up when her mum tells her to!

Yea exactly. She will learn next time she has to eat. Kids need to learn the hard way sometimes. She is old enough to know that she went to school hungry because she was naughty

She is not a toddler

I hope there are really strong consequences for her for refusing to get out of bed this morning and refusing to get dressed! Absolutely unacceptable at her age. And if it keeps happening, the school will be raising all kinds of red flags about a child that's 25 minutes late and hasn't had breakfast.

People are obsessed with snacking and 3 prescribed meals a day. It's a relatively modern invention. We don't NEED snacks. We need good nutrition and it doesn't matter too much when the food is eaten as long as it's balanced and spread somewhat throughout the day.

They are given a snack and a bagel at 10:30. Even if she didn't eat breakfast everyday, she'd be fine due to the snack at school. Maybe she'd just eat a little more lunch or dinner later.

I'd say the your fault, your consequence thing is ok for a secondary child, but at 6 if you do that you're giving the message that you can't or won't parent her in the way that she needs. I'm not a fan of this approach for young children, I think at 6 you need to see it as your problem to get her up and breakfasted, not hers. It doesn't sound like she needs any more independence and choice in how she behaves.

Tonight bed somewhere you can get her out of a bit earlier. Tomorrow up as early as you think you will need plus at least 25 minutes. Covers off sit her up and t shirt over head if she doesn't comply. If need be get her done before partner leaves.

Don't worry op. It sounds like year 11 are fucking bored today.

If mine are too tired I make a smoothie with oats in it and that fills them up and they can drink it in the car if needs be.

This made me laugh. If mine are late getting out and haven't managed breakfast, I shove a couple of custard creams in their hands

"I never fancied breakfast until I was out and about, my mother wanted me to have something but I couldn't stomach it. I know my mum felt guilty but you can't force food down in to a child. On the whole I ate well."

Are you my daughter, MaggiesFarm My pest of a DD refused breakfast from the age of 6, zipped lip, total refusal. I tried everything but the truth of it is, as Maggie says, you can't force a child to eat. She was a very active child and did well in school. 32 now and still doesn't eat breakfast. Come to that, nor do I! I just don't ever feel hungry in the mornings, but it's mornings when I feel most lively and active.

Other DD btw liked her breakfast and still has it now she's an adult.

Some people just don't want to eat so early and can manage fine. Others can't. In OP's case, no need to feel guilty! she'll either feel hungry till bagel-time or she won't, but the not getting out of bed to the point of being 25 minutes late to school is definitely an issue. Hope you manage to get on top of it.

Oh whoops sorry OP I didn't see your later post about her wanting breakfast but it was too late. Ignore my post then! Still don't feel guilty though - if she wants her breakfast she'll jolly well have to get up earlier tomorrow.

I’ve just spoken to my dad about it and his response was “you were fucking horrible from 6-20. It’s called karma babe.”

Might be worth getting some breakfast things so she can snack on the way to school, bars, belvita, or just stick some toast in the toaster and eat it on the way.

6 year old refusing to get and get dressed. Bagels at school. Mid morning snacks. God I’m old.

if she likes bananas they might be useful to have in your handbag (for yourself maybe as well as her).

I remember this at our end. Daughter is 16 nearly now and I remember it being really hard.

Probably missing the point but do primary schools now provide a second breakfast at morning break? When I taught and when my children were at school it was bring your own piece of fruit and then later the school received fruit to give the younger children. Is this now a thing everywhere?

I realised I haven’t mentioned that her school is right on our doorstep which is why she didn’t have time to eat anything on her way either. You can see it from our front door it takes 30 seconds.

She'll be fine as a one off, but if she's refusing to get out of bed till it's quite late she sounds really tired - she needs to go to bed earlier when she has school the next day maybe?

We have moved to an area where there a lot of deprives children so every child at the school gets offered snack and bagels. They all also get given large boxes of cereal to bring home every so often. Every child automatically qualifies for free school meals and free summer camps etc. It’s a great school and very different to her last one where it was quite a rich area.

[quote Lagomtransplant]@HopeValley

I'm not the only one horrified - go look at the published statistics of what changes in behaviour and attainment free breakfast clubs made in certain areas, the results were stupendous.[/quote]
I'm not doubting that children learn better when they've been fed. I've taught enough small children from very deprived families to know that thanks. I'm saying giving a child an apple for breakfast is not neglect. Some children like a big breakfast, some don't. Most will have something again at half 10 anyway.

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland she goes to bed at 7!

How can you be 25 mins late when the school is 30 seconds away?
What time did you start trying to get her up?
She’s 6. You’re in charge.

Also amazed the school are giving bagels mid morning. No wonder so many kids are overweight, bagels are terribly calorific.