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AIBU?

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To want parent’s phone number for teen sleepover

170 replies

Bagamoyo1 · 22/06/2021 08:23

DS is 15. Year 11 so he’s finished school till September.
He’s going to a friends tonight to watch the football, and a couple of them (DS included) are sleeping over.
I’ve asked him to get friend’s mum’s phone number, and to give her mine, in case of emergencies. Obviously he has his own phone, but if anything happened to him, no one else would be able to access his contacts as they wouldn’t know his PIN.
He says I’m being dramatic and ridiculous, and no one exchanges parent numbers now they’re all 15/16.
I admit I’m quite anxious about this sort of thing. My brother killed himself age 20, so whilst I’m not for a moment thinking that would happen, it has conditioned me to think that bad things will happen to people I love. I give my kids plenty of freedom but I like to know I can be contacted.
AIBU?

Currently we’ve compromised - he’s sent his friends my number - so that’s better thank nothing. I must add that at his age I was out and about a lot, pre mobile phones, so I’m aware of the double standard!

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WhenZoomWasJustAnIceLolly · 22/06/2021 08:35

YABU, he is way too old, sorry.
I wouldn’t ask for my 13yo.

I also have a background of people close to me taking their own lives and it does make me anxious and impact me in all kinds of ways, but you can’t put that on your ds. In a couple of years he’ll be off to uni and you won’t have his friends’ numbers then let alone their parents.

DeflatedGinDrinker · 22/06/2021 08:42

Yanbu for wanting your child to be safe op.

RealhousewifeofStoke · 22/06/2021 08:46

YANBU. He’s 15. He’s a child.
He gives you the number or he doesn’t go.

YesDisney · 22/06/2021 08:47

I wouldn’t have a clue who my 16yos friends parents even are let alone their phone numbers. Blush

TheSandgroper · 22/06/2021 08:47

Dc is mid teen and I need address, phone numbers and I meet the parents otherwise their plans aren’t happening.

beigebrownblue · 22/06/2021 09:16

I get it. On the hand you don't want to put your anxiety on them, on the other it is wise to be vigilant along the lines of 'foresight is better than hindsight'.

Mine is summer born and not sixteen yet, though left school.

I explain now that I need someone's number (or address) still, if she doesn't make it home I need to know what her steps were, just in case. Perhaps because I'm a single parent we are more close knit?

Thankfully she has a few close friends and before the pandemic I know them slightly from sleepovers having chatted at pick ups and drop offs when they were younger.

Someone on here explained they operated a 'no questions asked pick up policy'. basically what it says on the tin, they can phone if they get in a pickle or feel uncomfortable somewhere and I will not tell them off, just turn up. I've explained this to my teen and she liked it.

Finally, and I don't wish to fuel anyone's anxiety. But for the first time in nearly ten years of being here we had a stabbing on our street (its a long street) this week. I understand these are common in other areas but it gave me a shock. The one who did it was a teenager and under eighteen. Thankfully the victim didn't die. The person who did it was bailed and probably given a community sentence.

I've had conversations with parents I know about it and we agree that as long as we can, and especially with young men, though also young women obviously, we need to talk about things like knives if we can. And even check if we can that they are not carrying knives and who they are with. Likewise as possible educate ourselves and keep an open mind about country lines activity.

So I suffer from anxiety too, I empathise, however, there have been times when it is an advantage, as painful as it is, as I have anticipated a situation something which someone who was more naive would not have noticed.

And things like that affect people from all areas. Sometimes I think economically better off communities are more at risk as their kids are not so street wise. I know that is a stereotype if you like, but we all operate with them to some extend.

I don't check my daughter's phone. Feel like it is better to have the trust and the coversations there instead, about porn, risks online, what they have learned in school etc.

Finally and sorry for such a long post we've had conversations about what they are allowed to do when they are sixteen as opposed to fifteen. There are some misconceptions about this, but if you get the information from a fact checking organisation like fullfact.org.
or Family Lives it helped me anyway.

It is a bit tricky when some in group are already sixteen and some only fifteen.

And always tell them if they are in a group to stick together and not seperate even if they have an falling out (which happens).

And make sure they are confident about phoning 999 if someone needs it or gets hurt. That is what it is there for.

Willyoujustbequiet · 22/06/2021 09:22

Yanbu. One or two replies stating the opposite have shocked me a bit tbh.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 22/06/2021 09:27

At least until mid-teens, I always went for 'get the mum or dad to text me, so I know they're happy to have you there'....

None of my kids thought that was unreasonable.

cookiecreampie · 22/06/2021 09:28

I think 15 is too old unless he's irresponsible for his age. Once he's 16 you wouldn't be able to enforce this anyway. I'm a worrier too so I know what it's like to stress about stuff that's unlikely to happen. I don't really know what the solution is, but I wouldn't ask for his mum's number, you're going to make him look stupid in front of his mates.

yepitsmey · 22/06/2021 09:29

I think it seems a perfectly reasonable request. It doesn't mean you're going to badger the parents, you are rightly just trying to keep him safe.

Topseyt · 22/06/2021 09:30

I always needed the addresses because of having to drop off and pick up, but I have never had the parents phone numbers except when my children were still in primary school.

I did come to vaguely know some of the parents, but much less so as they went through their teens.

Your DS has his phone. That is all you can expect. Have all of his friends' parents demanded to have your number if their children have visited your house? I'm sure that the vast majority have not, if any at all. So there is your answer. Leave it.

underneaththeash · 22/06/2021 09:30

He's 15, so a child and yes of course you need to know where he is staying overnight. (I have a 15 year old).

@WhenZoomWasJustAnIceLolly
you do realise that you're legally responsible for your 13 yo?

DynamoKev · 22/06/2021 09:30

@Willyoujustbequiet

Yanbu. One or two replies stating the opposite have shocked me a bit tbh.
Me too. DD 13 had a sleepover recently I spoke to host parents just to check they were ok with it. Shocked people don't know where their kids are.
ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 22/06/2021 09:32

we did the same, not even for a sleepover but a big party.
that's a basic requirement in case of an emergency.
YADNBU, in fact not asking is irresponsible

TooMuchPaper · 22/06/2021 09:33

When ds was 17 he became friendly with a girl in his class (she had just joined his school). He asked if she could come over and stay the night to watch films. I was fine with that. Told him to give her my number so that she could give it to her mother. She arrived at our house. Told me that her mother had no interest in where she was, who she was with or what she was doing so she didn't bother giving her my number. They maintained their friendship for the remainder of their school years. The day they finished school she gave me a huge hug and said she wished her mum cared about her the way that I did. When I see posts like some here advising people not to bother about where their children are, I think of her.

RedHelenB · 22/06/2021 09:33

Yabu at that age. Mumsnet is really weird over situations lije this, I really feel for the suffocated kids on here!

namechange30455 · 22/06/2021 09:33

Does he not have his phone set up so you can call emergency contacts without the PIN? There are ways to do this on Apple or Android phones if you Google.

Would that reassure you?

takealettermsjones · 22/06/2021 09:34

I understand your feelings but if he is generally sensible then I do think YABU. But why not help him to put an emergency message on his phone lock screen, saying "in emergency please call..." and your number? My husband and I have each other's numbers on our phones like this, and it's helped return a couple of lost phones to us if nothing else!

Topseyt · 22/06/2021 09:34

I always knew where mine were. I had to take them and collect them and would see the other parents at drop off and collection.

Nobody is talking about not knowing where they are.

Floralnomad · 22/06/2021 09:36

YABU , stop before you start being an embarrassment , presumably he will be 16 in a few weeks . I can’t understand all these people saying it’s responsible to know where he is as surely he has told you where he is going so you know the address , it’s hardly like he has said I’m off out ,see you in a week .

Ellpellwood · 22/06/2021 09:37

I think his friends having your number is a fair compromise.

ProcrastinationStation3 · 22/06/2021 09:38

Most (all probably) smartphones have the ability to set up emergency contacts so that anyone who picks up the phone can call them without needing to use the PIN etc (you can also enter medical info for emergency services).

Have him put your number in there and then any of his friends could call you in an emergency.

DinaofCloud9 · 22/06/2021 09:40

YABU. He's nearly 16.

Mydogisagentleman · 22/06/2021 09:42

yANBU

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 22/06/2021 09:42

he is being ridiculous and dramatic and shows how immature he is.
knowing where loved ones are and how they can be reached is must-have information and it doesn't stop when a child is 15.

when DH travels he gives me details of where he's staying (both hotel and day time office number) in case of an emergency. he is 47.

when the 7/7 bombings happened in London he was in Wales and due to travel back to London that afternoon.
I couldn't reach him on his phone so I called the local council he was gonna be that day. not only did they find him for me very quickly, actually happened to be breaking the news to them as they had been unaware of what was going on so with other people due travelling back as well it was very useful info to receive so early on.