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Disgusted with how MIL spoke to a workman- AIBU?

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Sleeplessem · 18/06/2021 13:57

So context, MIL doesnt live with DH and I but DH provides for her financially speaking. MIL and DH are Asian (Indian subcontinent) I am white European our DD is very fair (so white passing) MIL doesn’t speak English BUT she understands very basic phrases (think hello, goodbye, my name is etc)

There was a workman doing some work at MILs today that DH had hired. DH gets a call from workman saying that he has introduced himself to MIL several times but she is not calling him by his name, rather she is referring to him as ‘Goreh’ and he’s offended as he’s doing the job for a very good price and has been very careful to make sure she understands what’s going on and is comfortable with a man In her home, yet despite him introducing himself and stating his name she’s been calling him goreh. So he called DH to tell him to tell her to stop or he’ll leave because he doesn’t need it as he’s trying to be helpful. I feel awful for the guy, I’m mortified that she’d treat someone that way.

DH relayed the message but brushed it off as him mum being a bit stupid. I think this is disgusting and it’s purposely talking down to someone who’s doing work in your home.

For context the word goreh means white man. I asked a pakistani friend about it and she was mortified and stated it was really really rude to speak to someone like that. This sort of stuff hits a nerve with me as it is very much how I’m treated by his family. Whilst I understand that white people aren’t victims of racism (I think Akala spoke about it in detail if anyone is interested) the term goreh at least in his family is used in an exclusively derogatory context. Some examples being if someone said you look very goreh today it would be an insult, I’ve been told I have a ‘disgusting gori’ name and family members refused to call me by it, people would stare at me and not let me sit with them at family functions (I’d hear gori, gori and then they’d put their bags on chair so I couldn’t sit there), MIL in particular refused to accept me because I’m ‘gori’ and ‘gori’ have no family values and are all money grabbing etc. So this is how I know, pretty much for certain that goreh/gori is derogatory/ an insult and a slur.

She has a habit of doing really shitty things such as this and gets out of it because she plays dumb. But she’s knows full well that goreh is derogatory and would’ve understood when he told her his name. I’m just mortified and disappointed by her actions yet again, but DH sort of laughs it off.

DH apologised to the work man and made her apologise to so there’s nothing more than can really be done in this situation, so I get that. But this is disgusting behaviour from her right?

OP posts:
Sleeplessem · 18/06/2021 19:51

@tony68 yeah he did it’s common knowledge in these parts x

OP posts:
Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:03

Blimey I have a Asian partner pakistani and I am referred to as a gory but it appears to be done in a non offensive way and dp and his relatives seem okay with me. I've never got upset abt it.

Sleeplessem · 18/06/2021 20:09

@Clappingforjoy I’m glad you haven’t but unfortunately it’s been used at me in a really derogatory sense. Could be a family thing, they are more us v them than most

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Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:12

I have been referred to as a multi gory think thats the term because I'm overweight but we just laugh abt it.

Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:15

I do know that older generation Asian ladies can come across a bit like how your mil is

Sleeplessem · 18/06/2021 20:19

@Clappingforjoy well that’s nice!

But in my circumstances his mother and extend family threatened to disown DH for considering a ‘filthy gori’ as a wife, DH has been told to keep me as a mistress or whore because that’s all a gori like me is good for and to marry a real Asian woman, women wouldn’t let me sit down at weddings because I’m ‘gori’, told I have a disgusting gori name, gori are just gold diggers and promiscuous and have no family values, gori are infertile so ill never be able to have children. All really bigoted nonsense, I’m not saying this is typical of all Asian families but it’s just my experience of the early days of our marriage.

For anyone concerned of course DH stood up for me.

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Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:22

Sleeplessem thats really bad im sorry to hear that.
So long as dh treats you well and fully respects you ignore them.

Doris86 · 18/06/2021 20:34

[quote Sleeplessem]@Clappingforjoy well that’s nice!

But in my circumstances his mother and extend family threatened to disown DH for considering a ‘filthy gori’ as a wife, DH has been told to keep me as a mistress or whore because that’s all a gori like me is good for and to marry a real Asian woman, women wouldn’t let me sit down at weddings because I’m ‘gori’, told I have a disgusting gori name, gori are just gold diggers and promiscuous and have no family values, gori are infertile so ill never be able to have children. All really bigoted nonsense, I’m not saying this is typical of all Asian families but it’s just my experience of the early days of our marriage.

For anyone concerned of course DH stood up for me.[/quote]
‘Filthy gori ’? And that’s not racism towards a white person?

queenofthenite · 18/06/2021 20:43

@Clappingforjoy

I do know that older generation Asian ladies can come across a bit like how your mil is
Yes I had this plenty when I dated a guy who had Pakistani parents.

And don't forget the grooming gangs who targeted white girls for being 'easy' and 'sluts'.

White people CAN be victims of racism.

Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:46

Yes true Queen it doesn't seem to be recognised though

Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:46

Asian families can be full of drama.

Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:47

My Asian dp agrees with me as well

Clappingforjoy · 18/06/2021 20:48

The women are the worst they can also be nasty to each other

Sleeplessem · 18/06/2021 20:53

@Clappingforjoy the men haven’t been pleasant in my case either. Haha

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SimonJT · 18/06/2021 20:54

@frazzledasarock

How on earth is she using the word to address him. It doesn’t make grammatical sense.

I speak Urdu it’s my mother tongue. I can’t actually imagine how the sentences she is forming.

Sounds incredibly odd.

This is what I thought as well.
queenofthenite · 18/06/2021 20:55

@Clappingforjoy

Yes true Queen it doesn't seem to be recognised though
Certainly not on here, that would mean committing some kind of weird social faux pas.

And it's how they get away with it.

buffyajp · 18/06/2021 21:00

[quote Sleeplessem]@3Britnee there is some interesting research on that, it’s not my specialty so I don’t want to go into detail but I think a distinction can be made between racism (a system of oppression) and race based prejudice. Some interesting articles and talks on it if you’re interested xx[/quote]
That is some peoples opinion but it certainly isn’t fact and the law certainly doesn’t agree. Your mil is racist and needs called out on it.

smallgoon · 18/06/2021 21:10

@whynotwhatknot

If i opened the door and said oh the pakistani man is here its racist so saying white man and repeatedly referring to someone as that is also racist
What in God's name are you going on about?
Mandalay246 · 18/06/2021 21:29

A little tolerance on both sides is needed here.

Did you actually read the whole post? The MIL is rude to OP, even going so far to say she had a "disgusting name". How tolerant does one have to be towards a person who has lived in a country for 30 years but can't be bothered to even learn the language and insults someone doing a job for her?

woodhill · 18/06/2021 21:55

Yes pretty poor imo

PerciphonePuma · 23/06/2021 20:53

Your husband doesn't sound like a nice man either if he just laughed it off! Why are you with him?! I'd run for the hills

entropynow · 23/06/2021 21:29

@3Britnee

no, white people in the UK cannot experience racism, which results from a systemic bias against a minority group. People can still be bloody rude to them though, and this is obviously happening here. OP's husband needs to step up and challenge his mother.

Doris86 · 23/06/2021 21:32

[quote entropynow]@3Britnee

no, white people in the UK cannot experience racism, which results from a systemic bias against a minority group. People can still be bloody rude to them though, and this is obviously happening here. OP's husband needs to step up and challenge his mother.[/quote]
The OP has been called a ‘filthy gori’ by her husband’s family, and you don’t think that is racist? Just rude.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 23/06/2021 21:50

Of course there can be racism towards white people. A friend of a dd experienced it - very overt - in Japan.

Louise1051 · 23/06/2021 21:56

White people can’t be victims of racism? Wow, racism is prejudice against an individual based on their race or ethic background. Nowhere in the definition of racism does it say it is exclusively white people that are racist or that they can’t be the victims of racism. How you are being treated by your husbands family is racist and it is disgusting end of story.

If they don’t want you part of their family tell them where to go, stay away from them and keep your dd away also! Xx

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