AIBU that neighbour is a cheeky F !

[Karmabites2591]

Named changed because completely outing If she is on here.

So we live in a terraced house with decent size gardens.
Our garden has a pool, climbing frame and tree house thing for kids.
We have fences but they are lower enough to look over etc.
We have been out every day the last week.
My kids have noticed that things haven’t been where they left them in the garden but I just assumed they just forgot etc

Anyway, I got home from work early today and the kids were still at the park and one with my sister.
When I arrived home.
The neighbours child was in our garden using the climbing frame whilst his mum was in her garden watching.

Seriously ??? Neighbour was apologetic when she realised I was annoyed but said she didn’t really see the problem as he was supervised and wasn’t doing any harm ?

[SofiaMichelle]

Still another poster rented out a room in her house on AirB&B. The house was totally unsuitable for children so NO CHILDREN was made clear on the booking. A woman booked it and then announced she was bringing her toddler. The OP duly informed her no children, cancelled the booking, person refunded.

The person showed up with the toddler in a taxi, demanding entrance to the home. She kicked off and a neighbour rang the police and she was moved on.

Cue some MNers falling over themselves to berate the poster for being unkind, how she should have invited the woman and toddler in for a hot meal, provided nappies and milk, let them stay for free etc. It was hilarious!

OMG I remember that one!

[strangeshapedpotato]

[quote pam290358]@strangeshapedpotato. Trespass isn’t a crime, it’s a tort and if it’s causing a nuisance, property has been damaged, or abusive behaviour is involved, the OP can ask the police to intervene if the neighbour continues in this way after she has been asked to stop. The neighbour putting the child over the fence after being asked to stop would be the nuisance, and I’m willing to bet the police would be interested in a little boy being put at risk by being left in a garden which has a pool, whilst not properly supervised. If not, I’d be reporting it to social services as a safeguarding concern.[/quote]
If property has been damaged, or abusive behaviour involved, yes - the police can get involved.

Nuisance?? LOL - what planet do you live on? The police don't give a cr*p about nuisances unless it's someone rich and famous whose affected.

Have you not noticed that on a pretty regular basis, various places are overrun by travellers who create far more of a local nuisance than a child playing on a swing. Any sign of the police?? Nope! Only if the landowner has managed (not easy) to win a court victory to get them evicted at which point the police sometimes present to ensure the eviction proceeds without incident.

As for safeguarding - nope - it isn't - unless the OP wants to tell the police they've threatened to harm the child!

I get the impression you believe the world works the way you think it should... and while I'd agree completely that this behaviour from the neighbour SHOULD be dealt with by the police, I guarantee it won't be.

[wellstopdoingitthen]

Tell her you've sprayed poison on the lawn so they'd better keep out.

[ClassyCupcake2020]

What a cheeky b**ch! Its trespassing. Not being unreasonable whatsoever.

[Twinkie01]

Get a ring security cameras, if you've already a security light they're pretty easy to swap over, you can link it to your phone as a motion detector and then shout over the microphone for them to get the fuck out or set off a really load irritating noise from it.

[Babygotblueyes]

However old her child and yours, it is not right to come into your garden without permission. She can fuck right off.

[cherish123]

Covid risk.

Also very cheeky.

[MidsummerMimi]

Pam290358 is making some excellent points.
Very balanced and informative.

[Feedingthebirds1]

Waiting to see how long it is before neighbour turns up complaining that the OP has moved the toys and her son can't play on them any more.

[PollyPepper]

Are you in the police? Cos I am and you're talking nonsense.

[PollyPepper]

That was to @strangeshapedpotato

[Mamanyt]

Not certain about liability in Great Britain generally, but if you lived here in the USA, you could be sued if the child hurt himself. And they would very possibly win in court. We have some bizarre laws about things like that. For instance, you can post "Beware of Dog," but if a child sticks their hand through the fence and is bitten, you are liable, as you did not do due diligence in protecting the public. If you have a pool behind a fence with a locked gate and someone climbs the fence, you may be found liable, because they were able to breach the fence.

[Gilly12345]

I hope you told her that she is out of order and has no business in your garden uninvited, I would try to not fall out with her but you really do need to assert yourself so this doesn’t happen again, especially as you have a pool.

[Karmabites2591]

Update - there is nothing to
Update 🤣
We have taken the stuff down ( obviously apart from pool )
The kids are fine with just the pool at the moment.
I have posted a letter through their door to say they are not allowed to
Use the garden.
She hasn’t said or done anything.

[BluebellsGreenbells]

Keep it in perspective it’s just a child.

With a CF parent allowing them to trespass and use other children things.

What plant do you live on?

[Tigger1895]

I’d like to know who the 2% are that think yrbu.

[peppermintpat]

Put a camera up in plain site even if it's a fake and point it directly onto your climbing frame. Also a large sign saying CCTV in operation in a window where she can see it.

[Brennanlady1888]

That really is cheeky esp as children can drown unsupervised in ponds . Could you add a trellis on your side of the fence My friend has bought a roll of willow/ bamboo to attach to the fence to add a privacy screen it seems to work well May stop child climbing over

[hoxtonbabe]

@Karmabites2591

You’ll see them in the pool now

I’ve never known such brass neck of a parent allowing a child to use a neighbors garden with permission/sneaking child in when said neighbor is out, and that’s saying something considering we’re on Mumsnet

[pam290358]

@strangeshapedpotato. Wow, how aggressive are you ?? I wasn’t having a go at you, just pointing out that you were right about trespass not being a criminal offence and adding my point of view. Living as a disabled person and now a widow, I can assure you that I definitely don’t ‘think the world works the way I think it should’. I simply think that given the seriousness of what could happen, it’s worth the OP taking appropriate action to protect herself from liability and try to ensure the child doesn’t come to any harm. You seem to be more interested in engaging in a personal attack on my character and end by suggesting that she shouldn’t even try because almost no one in authority will be interested in a very young child being put at risk. How helpful.

[bemusedmoose]

Your garden isn't the local bloody park! How rude! I reckon they stuff the kid over the fence the minute you are gone. As will continue to do so even now they have been caught.

As for not seeing a problem!?! Bloody entitled crappy attitude that is! They wouldn't want your kids jumping the fence and playing in their garden... I would tell them it's trespass and it's not ok at all. Would also tell them to fork out for play equipment or go to the park like everyone else. Failing that - charge them an entry fee!! 😂

[Usernamerequired]

Guessing she sanitised everything cos theres a little pandemic on?

[Lilibet2022]

I’d like to know who the 2% are that think yrbu.

@Tigger1895 that 2% will be the type of arsehole neighbours who see no problem in treating someone else's personal space as their public playground. Perhaps we should all go hang out in their garden whilst they're at work. Sure they won't mind...

[InTheDrunkTank]

Bloody hell this is the second thread today about neighbours wandering around other people's properties with their kids. Jesus will they be letting themselves in with the spare key and watching your big screen next?