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To be pissed off that even though every other thread in AIBU has a relevant topic it could go in, it only seems to be feminism-related threads that get moved?

226 replies

AngeloMysterioso · 06/06/2021 20:47

Looking at the first page of AIBU alone, I can see several threads that would more appropriately be posted in Relationships, Coronavirus, Education, Chat, Politics, etc etc.

People post all sorts of irrelevant non-AIBU shitin AIBU for traffic. Everyone knows this.

And yet it only seems to be feminism-related threads that attract a load of posters going “UGH there’s a feminism topic for this you know” and eventually the threads get put back in their place, just like those pesky feminists moved to the feminism topic, where only people who seek out feminism-based threads will see them.

Why is this? Why is it ok for people to post in AIBU about covid vaccines, or employment issues, or whether you live within walking distance of your kids school, but not to bring attention to current issues facing women that many may not be aware of?

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MySocalledLoaf · 06/06/2021 20:48

I’ve seen loads of others get moved. Don’t see why the “feminism” topic should be any different.

EdgeOfACoin · 06/06/2021 20:53

There's quite a few threads about the covid vaccine in AIBU. Why aren't they in the coronavirus section?

Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 20:54

That’s not what that thread was doing though. It was using a Daily Mail article by Sarah Vine to have a go at trans people thinly-disguised as a pushback to inclusive language. And it’s nonsense anyway.

ThinWomansBrain · 06/06/2021 20:56

I enjoy the variety of AIBU

EdgeOfACoin · 06/06/2021 20:57

@Pumperthepumper

That’s not what that thread was doing though. It was using a Daily Mail article by Sarah Vine to have a go at trans people thinly-disguised as a pushback to inclusive language. And it’s nonsense anyway.
It was not.

If that's what it was about, it would have been deleted not moved.

AngeloMysterioso · 06/06/2021 20:59

@Pumperthepumper

That’s not what that thread was doing though. It was using a Daily Mail article by Sarah Vine to have a go at trans people thinly-disguised as a pushback to inclusive language. And it’s nonsense anyway.
That’s your perception, and your opinion. Plenty of people feel differently.

Which still doesn’t answer the question of why feminism based threads always have to be dragged back to the FWR board when hundreds of other threads that have less than fuck all to do with AIBU are allowed to stay put.

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Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 21:01

It was nonsense. It’s not ‘an issue affecting women’ in any way at all. It’s a couple of HR policies saying ‘pregnant employees’ instead of ‘mother’. It has exactly zero connotations in real life.

lavenderandwisteria · 06/06/2021 21:02

I agree.

EdgeOfACoin · 06/06/2021 21:02

@Pumperthepumper

It was nonsense. It’s not ‘an issue affecting women’ in any way at all. It’s a couple of HR policies saying ‘pregnant employees’ instead of ‘mother’. It has exactly zero connotations in real life.
You can keep saying that, but it doesn't make it true.
Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 21:04

It is true though, that’s why you couldn’t produce any examples of any real way it affected anyone. Even the people who believed it was important struggled to find sources - one welsh government policy document and some vague hints about a woman on Twitter who may or may not have been charged for posting a picture of a ribbon on Twitter. Total nonsense.

AngeloMysterioso · 06/06/2021 21:07

It isn’t true, there were plenty of people (including myself) who gave examples of the real-life ramifications of the issue that thread discussed.

And as much as you want to derail this thread... it still doesn’t answer the question of why feminism based threads always have to be dragged back to the FWR board when hundreds of other threads that have less than fuck all to do with AIBU are allowed to stay put.

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oioisaveloy108 · 06/06/2021 21:08

Oh dear. I will report this one as well. Boring.

AngeloMysterioso · 06/06/2021 21:10

@oioisaveloy108

Oh dear. I will report this one as well. Boring.
For what? It’s an AIBU thread in AIBU.

And who made you the AIBU police... are you reporting every covid thread and complaining it should be moved to the coronavirus board?

No?

Well what makes this one any different?

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EdgeOfACoin · 06/06/2021 21:10

@Pumperthepumper

It is true though, that’s why you couldn’t produce any examples of any real way it affected anyone. Even the people who believed it was important struggled to find sources - one welsh government policy document and some vague hints about a woman on Twitter who may or may not have been charged for posting a picture of a ribbon on Twitter. Total nonsense.
Quite a bit of evidence was produced, actually, all of which you dismissed out of hand.

The Freedom of Information requests about the recording of criminals' sex for one thing.

Tbh, this thread will get pulled for being a TaaT soon, so there's probably not a lot of point in engaging.

Nevertheless, the original thread is over on Feminism if anyone is interested in looking at the actual posts.

Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 21:10

@AngeloMysterioso

It isn’t true, there were plenty of people (including myself) who gave examples of the real-life ramifications of the issue that thread discussed.

And as much as you want to derail this thread... it still doesn’t answer the question of why feminism based threads always have to be dragged back to the FWR board when hundreds of other threads that have less than fuck all to do with AIBU are allowed to stay put.

There really weren’t any examples that it was happening in any meaningful way. Marion Miller and the welsh HR policy document. A lot of ‘what if we have a dystopian future?’ and the usual ‘we can’t say lesbians or women’ - both of which are untrue. No solid evidence that it was having any impact whatsoever on women.

I guess if you had something to say about issues actually affecting women it might get more traffic from interested people in AIBU.

Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 21:11

The Freedom of Information requests about the recording of criminals' sex for one thing.

What did that have to do with Sarah Vine’s article on inclusive language? I thought it wasn’t about the trans debate?

EndoplasmicReticulum · 06/06/2021 21:13

3 coronavirus threads on first page of AIBU when I looked just now, just from the titles. Could be more.

Anyway the one that got moved was about mothers. Perhaps this site should change its name.

Birthing-parent-net doesn't have quite the same ring, really.

AngeloMysterioso · 06/06/2021 21:15

@Pumperthepumper I’ll ask one more time...

It still doesn’t answer the question of why feminism based threads always have to be dragged back to the FWR board when hundreds of other threads that have less than fuck all to do with AIBU are allowed to stay put.

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EdgeOfACoin · 06/06/2021 21:15

@Pumperthepumper

The Freedom of Information requests about the recording of criminals' sex for one thing.

What did that have to do with Sarah Vine’s article on inclusive language? I thought it wasn’t about the trans debate?

It was about why language is important.

Anyway, like I said, I expect this thread will get deleted so not much point in discussing in detail. Original thread still going over on Feminism.

Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 21:16

[quote AngeloMysterioso]@Pumperthepumper I’ll ask one more time...

It still doesn’t answer the question of why feminism based threads always have to be dragged back to the FWR board when hundreds of other threads that have less than fuck all to do with AIBU are allowed to stay put.[/quote]
I don’t know. But I wouldn’t choose that thread as your hill to die on. It’s garbage.

Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 21:17

@EdgeOfACoin what language though? Mother is still being used everywhere except for one Welsh HR policy document. It’s a total non-issue.

EdgeOfACoin · 06/06/2021 21:18

Angelo, I think some people really, really don't want these discussions taking place away from the feminism boards.

Lucifersladylove · 06/06/2021 21:18

Because the 800 threads about trans people are boring?

ArabellaScott · 06/06/2021 21:19

If the language used to refer to mothers isn't relevant to every bloody board on a site called Mumsnet them I don't know what is.

Issues relevant to women and mothers aren't a niche topic that has to be hived off.

Pumperthepumper · 06/06/2021 21:19

@ArabellaScott

If the language used to refer to mothers isn't relevant to every bloody board on a site called Mumsnet them I don't know what is.

Issues relevant to women and mothers aren't a niche topic that has to be hived off.

On one welsh HR policy document? I’d say that’s pretty niche.