To be pissed off that even though every other thread in AIBU has a relevant topic it could go in, it only seems to be feminism-related threads that get moved?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Looking at the first page of AIBU alone, I can see several threads that would more appropriately be posted in Relationships, Coronavirus, Education, Chat, Politics, etc etc.

People post all sorts of irrelevant non-AIBU shitin AIBU for traffic. Everyone knows this.

And yet it only seems to be feminism-related threads that attract a load of posters going “UGH there’s a feminism topic for this you know” and eventually the threads get put back in their place, just like those pesky feminists moved to the feminism topic, where only people who seek out feminism-based threads will see them.

Why is this? Why is it ok for people to post in AIBU about covid vaccines, or employment issues, or whether you live within walking distance of your kids school, but not to bring attention to current issues facing women that many may not be aware of?

@EdgeOfACoin

I couldn’t find the one specific document the poster meant because they had the wrong date on the post

Try harder

Admittedly I didn't try very hard. I typed in 'Welsh maternity policy 29 April' and there it was!

I guess I could have tried harder but it worked for me.

I agree it didn't mention chestfeeding. Mentioned father but not mother.

You must have waited until the end of the thread then because the poster said it was updated in 2021. And it wasn’t, it was the wrong date, and I’d already posted the other documents by then.

It was an employee HR policy document. It mentioned ‘pregnant employees’. That’s it.

Yanbu

@Pumperthepumper why are you so determined to make this a TAAT?

with the rather obvious objective of getting it deleted or moved

Why would I care if it’s deleted or moved? I’ll happily have a conversation about issues affecting women, I’ll happily have a conversation about trans issues affecting women. I’ll happily have a conversation about mumsnet and why they move some threads and not others - I don’t know the answer but I suspect it’s something around ‘enough people reported it was clogging up the active AIBU threads’ or whatever.

I’m sure if you start a thread on actual issues affecting women it’ll stay put.

84% agree with you OP.

"84% agree with you OP".
And that's a good point - not the numbers so much, but that AIBU is the only section where you can have a poll.
Then you can see that it's not always the most persistent voices that are representative of the general feeling on this, or any board.

Yes, and I like a vote.

People are constantly moaning about Covid posts being in the wrong branch. It's happened today several times. People also get told that they should have posted in 'relationships' pretty regularly, as well as a couple of other branches.

@ArabellaScott

If the language used to refer to mothers isn't relevant to every bloody board on a site called Mumsnet them I don't know what is.

Issues relevant to women and mothers aren't a niche topic that has to be hived off.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Also brexit threads get reported and shifted quicksmart.

Presumably because there are more people reporting the trans threads on the basis that they are tedious af

It’s because the feminism threads are usually so dire they annoy people, and keeping them to the correct board means people can hide the whole topic and be saved the irritation.

I find the covid threads dire and tedious, but I don’t go round reporting every single one. I just don’t read them. Or if I’ve had a day where I’ve seen the word covid so many times it’s there when I close my eyes, I hide them.

Yeesss OP but other people aren't you.

What people do and don't report and why is down to them.

I genuinely can't see what you're hoping to achieve here past having a few more posters hide the feminist board!

I'm an fwr reg and it's winding me up even.

They get moved because they get reported.

It's no more complicated than that.

@MilkTwoSugarsThanks

It still doesn’t answer the question of why feminism based threads always have to be dragged back to the FWR board when hundreds of other threads that have less than fuck all to do with AIBU are allowed to stay put.

My guess would be that FWR threads tend to dissolve very quickly in to shouting matches and name calling far quicker than others.

OP: AIBU?
Reply: YABU that's not been my experience of... yadda yadda
OP: Go and educate yourself and take a good look at your internalised misogyny. Fucking Handmaiden ... yadda yadda.

That’s interesting, because there is rarely any shouting or name-calling on the FWR boards themselves. I am a very long-term lurker and have gained an enormous amount of understanding from reading FWR. The regular posters there are very intelligent and well-informed. Seems to me that the regular AIBU posters could benefit from more input from the feminist posters tbh.

It’s bizarre to treat huge issues affecting all women as if they’re specialised niche interests. Those trying to banish threads to FWR really need to pay more attention.

That’s interesting, because there is rarely any shouting or name-calling on the FWR boards themselves.

FWR has become a bit of an echo chamber to be honest.

The regular posters there are very intelligent and well-informed. Seems to me that the regular AIBU posters could benefit from more input from the feminist posters tbh.

Aaaaand there we have it. "Us MNFeminists are more intelligent than you plebs."

That's why they get reported and moved.

Of course YANBU OP

It’s so annoying. Covid threads also, there is a section for covid so post it there. Aibu vaccines, do I have covid etc, stop and put them in the right section. We hear enough covid without coming on here to see it too.

@MilkTwoSugarsThanks

There are countless boring covid threads posted on AIBU every day. They don’t get moved.

True, but those countless boring threads are made of many different subjects. The FWRs are only about trans issues at the moment.

They are about women's issues surely, or the intersection where trans rights impinge on women's rights? You make it sound random, whereas in fact it is interconnected.

MNHQ point blank refused to move ANY Brexit thread to the Brexit board unless OP asked (fat chance) as a PP said see also coronavirus threads - MN is very selective about what gets moved

Heartily agree. There are so many threads I just don’t read, seems easy enough to me. And if you can’t talk about calling mums mothers in a general space on mumsnet, then why call it mumsnet? Birthingpeoplesplace admin, these seem fairly fundamental concepts for women, don’t deserve to be strictly confined to a segregated discussion area and you should allow the stray thread on AIBU /chat etc.

Agree op bit tired of being sent back over to the "naughty corner"

Seems people are quite happy to take advantage of the things feminists fought for in the past and will of course reap the benefits of all the companies we have written to to ensure their policies are lawful and state the correct characteristics etc

Sure they would be happy about unsuitable materials being shared in schools that have been brought to public attention and/or stopped.

They just don't want to hear about it.

Not one of them will give up their right to vote or own property and none of that happened because women shut up and did as they were told.

Yanbu OP. The opinions of those who'd rather silo the voices of women who dissent in FWR are coming through loud and clear though.

Yanbu, I was furious when I saw it had been moved. On the plus side there was only one poster derailing not a load of the usual suspects.

@ArabellaScott

Yes, and I like a vote.

Yes. Me too. It shows that those who shout the loudest often don't reflect popular opinion.