To be pissed off that even though every other thread in AIBU has a relevant topic it could go in, it only seems to be feminism-related threads that get moved?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Looking at the first page of AIBU alone, I can see several threads that would more appropriately be posted in Relationships, Coronavirus, Education, Chat, Politics, etc etc.

People post all sorts of irrelevant non-AIBU shitin AIBU for traffic. Everyone knows this.

And yet it only seems to be feminism-related threads that attract a load of posters going “UGH there’s a feminism topic for this you know” and eventually the threads get put back in their place, just like those pesky feminists moved to the feminism topic, where only people who seek out feminism-based threads will see them.

Why is this? Why is it ok for people to post in AIBU about covid vaccines, or employment issues, or whether you live within walking distance of your kids school, but not to bring attention to current issues facing women that many may not be aware of?

I agree with you OP.

(Having said that, ironically the feminism board is the only section I've hidden.)

The long debate in the house of lords that was necessary to get the word "mother" reinstated into legislation about maternity rights was very interesting and significant.
I would have expected more interest in that, tbh.

The regular posters there are very intelligent and well-informed. Seems to me that the regular AIBU posters could benefit from more input from the feminist posters tbh.

Aaaaand there we have it. "Us MNFeminists are more intelligent than you plebs."

That's why they get reported and moved.

This is very true.

I have the board blocked personally, as the anti-trans rhetoric is disgusting and it really pisses me off every time I open a thread and see the thinly veiled attacks. If reporting a thread that should be in a section of the site I have blocked gets it moved, then so be it. If I had such an issue with covid posts that I had the coronavirus board blocked I would report and request them to be moved to. I suspect a lot of the posts that you deem 'don't belong' are phrased in such a way that they are asking a AIBU question so they don't need to be moved.

Perhaps this should be moved to 'site stuff' since you're asking a question on MNHQ can answer.

Done of us hide the feminism bored to avoid seeing all the trans bashing threads. I don't want them infiltrating Sonu. Why are you so desperate to bother the rest of us with your obsession?

HQ would be unhappy to hear that there are "trans bashing" threads on MN. They should be reported and deleted. Or do you just mean women discussing issues that affect women?

Yanbu OP.
There was a thread on AIBU the other day that belonged in sporners corner. (A board I have hidden because even the name males me feel sick)
It was clear from the title what it was so I didn't click on it. I suppose I could have don't so to report it and ask it to be moved, but I may have accidentally seen something gross in the process so I didn't.

Libby Purvis has written a thought provoking article in the Times today. I don't know if IABU to mention it.

Yanbu OP. The opinions of those who'd rather silo the voices of women who dissent in FWR are coming through loud and clear though.

It's not about silencing anyone. I have no desire to silence FWR any more than I want to silence Style & Beauty. People just don't want to see Active Threads taken up mostly with AIBUs about trans issues.

Agree OP.

Also, how surprising to see a feminist thread be derailed. That never happens

Perhaps we should all just report each and every thread we see in AIBU that should be elsewhere.

Totally. If that isn’t of interest/a concern to mothers on Mumsnet, then what is?? How and why was the word mother removed in the first place? We should all sit up and smell the coffee at this point!

What woke me up was the Girlguides and their total direguard for safeguarding. Its Trans inclusion policy, and recognition that “transwomen are women” de facto means that boys (and they are legally boys, because you cannot transition before 18) can now go on residential trips with girls - without parents or girls being informed they will be sharing with a member of the opposite sex! And, almost more worryingly, leaders can be men (most TW do not have a sex change. ie most will still have a penis. And anyone who says they are a TW is a TW - or any pervert can ow claim to be a TW and become a Girlguide leader. How any parent can think this is Ok is beyond me). That it can have come to this, and still be minimised and dismissed as a niche issue not worthy of the main boards and AIBU, is deeply worrying.

Not true at all - corona virus threads usually get moved if you report them, same with Brexit.

Yanbu. Move them all to the correct topic.

And fuck right off with the sarky "thread police" comments.

I have seen a variety of threads moved on lots of topics. I believe part of the decision to move them or not depends on the number of people who report it, so perhaps feminism threads receive more of these? But in my experience it is usually either coronavirus ones or education that I see moved the most.

@AngeloMysterioso

COULD EVERYONE PLEASE TRY AND REFRAIN FROM TURNING THIS INTO A TAAT.

I’ve posted about feminism-related threads in general being moved from AIBU to FWR. Not one in particular.

Oh as if lol It's blatant what thread this is about seeing as people took the huff yesterday with the Sarah Vine one being moved!

@Quaggars

Not true at all - corona virus threads usually get moved if you report them, same with Brexit.

They only sometimes get moved. More often than not they stay with the explanation "oh, the OP wants a variety of responses, we think it's best to leave it" or something. It's pointless.

I didn’t read that thread precisely because it said “if you don’t read the feminist board please read this article.” It was blatantly a feminist board thread and was posted in AIBU as a two fingers up to those who don’t read/have the feminist boards hidden/are fed up of every thread about feminism being anti trans.

As for other threads, I frequently report COVID threads and they are often moved to the COVID topic which i also have hidden.

I have personally requested corona threads be moved in the past, as at one point just reading about it everywhere and it being all over the news and radio and tv and literally everything was starting to affect my mental health, and I got sick of having to hide them all when I came on MN as there were just so bloody many. My request was denied. Can’t remember why, was probably words to the effect of what SoupDragon said above.

Is there any particular reason why it's so important to you to have FWR threads in AIBU?

All those I have seen tend to descend in to shouting matches between the FWR "regulars" and the "others" who don't share their views. Cries of "Go and educate yourself", "Trying to silence us", "We're very clever and do our research so we're better than you". All it does is put people off the subject and stop wanting to engage.

The trans issue used to interest me, but I now realise I'm not MNFeminist enough to have much of an input on this board.

Well every time I've reported things to be moved to the corona virus topic they've always been moved (did it loads last year during lock down as was so fed up seeing all the doom and gloom whenever I logged on)
Same a few years ago when you couldn't move for Brexit slanging matches on here.

They only sometimes get moved. More often than not they stay with the explanation "oh, the OP wants a variety of responses, we think it's best to leave it" or something.

The impression is that FWR don't want a variety of responses though, and that's part of the problem. Time and time again people say how they feel when they've tried to engage, maybe learn a bit, offer a different view. Time and time again people say they don't feel welcome, feel talked down to, etc. And time and time again FWR regulars go all wide eyed innocence of "We don't do that! How could you say such a thing! We always listen to other points of view!"

You've been told what the reasons are. Whether you choose to do anything about it or not is up to you.

Is there any particular reason why it's so important to you to have FWR threads in AIBU?

It’s not so much that it’s important to me to have FWR threads in AIBU, but (as I’ve said, repeatedly) every other thread in AIBU is one that doesn’t really belong there (there’s one on the first page right now that’s about cleaning paddling pools for God’s sake, wtf does that have to do with AIBU?) but none of those other threads attracted the ire of people moaning that they haven’t been posted in Chat/Housekeeping/wherever in the same way that FWR related threads do. As demonstrated by the number of covid threads that are still posted in AIBU on a daily basis and allowed to stay there. There’s one on the first page right now about vaccines with over 250 comments, and not one person has gone “ugh there’s a coronavirus board for this you know”. That happens on feminism threads within the first five minutes usually!

It just smacks a bit of “feminists, get back in your box”.

It just smacks a bit of “feminists, get back in your box”.

It's not so much "get back in your box" as "get back in the echo chamber you chose to create".

That is not meant personally, just a general "you".

That pool cleaning thread is the type of thing AIBU is meant for, surely?
As in am I unreasonable to ask how you keep your pool clean
Light hearted or banal stuff like that is what it's made for lol