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To think this is why people’s ideas of portion sizes is messed up.

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Meruem · 03/06/2021 20:30

Watch any diet/healthy eating show and they talk a lot about portion size. I had an M&S butter chicken curry tonight. It costs £4 and comes in what people would commonly believe is a single potion size. I do actually only eat half at a time, mainly because I have it with naan bread, but can easily see why someone would eat one on its own. Yet look on the back and it says, in small print, “portions 2”.

DS has been eating a lot of tinned soup lately rather than more calorific lunches as he is trying to lose weight. But again look on the back and 1 tin is apparently 2 portions. So why don’t they sell it in half tin sizes? You get half tins of beans, spaghetti etc so why not soup.

Many, many other foods are sold in portions of 2, sometimes even 3 or 4. But it’s not clear unless you go looking for it.

If we want to tackle the obesity crisis then why doesn’t it say in big letters on the front “x amount of portions” rather than bury it in small print on the back? Yes you could argue that people should look and inform themselves but realistically, until a person is already overweight, most won’t bother.

While I don’t disagree that people need to take personal responsibility I do think that the way things are packaged and sold has had an influence and that highlighting to people what a single portion is could go some way to making a difference.

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Arbadacarba · 03/06/2021 21:41

It's a marketing tool so the 'per portion' fat, sugar etc. looks lower.

Easy solution - read the ingredients/nutritional information and decide for yourself whether a whole or half portion will fit into your eating plan.

I'd suggest if you're having the butter chicken and nothing but the butter chicken as a main meal, a whole one might be fine - about 700 calories. If you're having rice, naan or potatoes with it, a half pack would make more sense.

LucilleTheVampireBat · 03/06/2021 21:42

@RaspberryCoulis

OMG you eat HALF a butter chicken with naan? OMG all those CARBS. If I ate that much, I wouldn't need to eat again until Halloween. A slice of cucumber at breakfast and i'm STUFFED for the day.

Do love a competitive under eating thread.

A FULL slice of cucumber? You fat bastard. Quarter tin of soup does me a week.
BlueButtercups · 03/06/2021 21:42

@RaspberryCoulis

OMG you eat HALF a butter chicken with naan? OMG all those CARBS. If I ate that much, I wouldn't need to eat again until Halloween. A slice of cucumber at breakfast and i'm STUFFED for the day.

Do love a competitive under eating thread.

😂🤣

KirstenBlest · 03/06/2021 21:44
Grin

People don't know these things though and don't usually read labels.

Look at the ingredients list. Just the length will give youu some indication,

Coffeemakesmehappy · 03/06/2021 21:44

@chlawrence

I think the Main issue is seeing some foods 'bad' and some foods 'good'. I believe portions and balance between everything including ready meals sometimes would help people maintain THEIR healthy weight
Exactly. I’ve been using an app (Nutra Check) for a couple of months now and found it really helpful as it’s about far more than calories. And yes, I do lie to it occasionally a lot but I still KNOW …
PurpleDaisies · 03/06/2021 21:44

@AntiWorkBrigade

My favourite example of this is chilled pizzas that have a single serving size of 1/3 of the thing. Imagine cutting that up with a pizza wheel.
That’s how you teach fractions to primary kids!
Meruem · 03/06/2021 21:45

Ok, I guess I kind of asked for all the jokes saying I only ate half of it Grin they have given me a laugh at least!

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LucilleTheVampireBat · 03/06/2021 21:45

204 calories in an ENTIRE tin of Heinz cream of tomato soup. 204 whole calories. Wow. How excessive. Orthorexia is alive and well on MN. Well, alive, certainly not well if you're worrying about 204 calories in a tin of fucking soup Hmm

looptheloopinahulahoop · 03/06/2021 21:46

I think a lot of shop portions are absolutely tiny. And some restaurants, too. I remember going to one place (in Guildford) and they gave me half a bowl of soup. I asked where the other half was.

There's no doubt that portion sizes are too big in a lot of places but definitely not everywhere. I usually find Indian portions are too large but a portion of fish and chips is often quite measly. And I would absolutely eat a whole tin of soup (unless it was a starter).

motogogo · 03/06/2021 21:47

Ready meals come in one, two and four person size, we share a 2 person between 2!

looptheloopinahulahoop · 03/06/2021 21:50

@TentTalk

I don’t think soup can sizes have changed since people were much slimmer.

No, but quality of ingredients and calorie content has. Much higher fat, lower quality meat and increased salt masked by increased sugar.

I actually get the impression that the sugar and salt content in processed meals like tinned soups has decreased. Certainly they often seem bland. M&S Italian meals have changed their recipe, they are definitely more bland than they were.
Arbadacarba · 03/06/2021 21:50

@LucilleTheVampireBat

204 calories in an ENTIRE tin of Heinz cream of tomato soup. 204 whole calories. Wow. How excessive. Orthorexia is alive and well on MN. Well, alive, certainly not well if you're worrying about 204 calories in a tin of fucking soup Hmm
Make your own cream of tomato soup with proper double cream and you'll never go back to the tinned stuff Wink.
Thisisworsethananticpated · 03/06/2021 21:50

Just cook food instead of buying ready made surely ?

chlawrence · 03/06/2021 21:52

@LucilleTheVampireBat

204 calories in an ENTIRE tin of Heinz cream of tomato soup. 204 whole calories. Wow. How excessive. Orthorexia is alive and well on MN. Well, alive, certainly not well if you're worrying about 204 calories in a tin of fucking soup Hmm
I don't think she said was worried tbh
HopingForOurRainbowBaby · 03/06/2021 21:52

A half plus a naan bread? That's far too much I have tiny a piece of chicken, a grain of rice, just a smidgen of sauce and no naan bread and I'm stuffed for the month 😂

SelkieQualia · 03/06/2021 21:54

@osbertthesyrianhamster

FFS. People can read and police themselves. We don't have to be nannied to fuck anymore. YABU.
I don't think it's fair to make it an issue about individual willpower when billions of dollars are spent each year with the goal of getting you to consume more.
lceniWarrior · 03/06/2021 21:55

@LucilleTheVampireBat

204 calories in an ENTIRE tin of Heinz cream of tomato soup. 204 whole calories. Wow. How excessive. Orthorexia is alive and well on MN. Well, alive, certainly not well if you're worrying about 204 calories in a tin of fucking soup Hmm
Yes, but in those 200 calories is 40% of your salt intake which is why the traffic light system says per 1/2 can. That's the issue. It misleads.
Cocomarine · 03/06/2021 21:55

I don’t think the soup is a good example.
That ton size hasn’t changed in my 50 years on this planet. I can’t remember the label in 1971, but I’m will to bet it didn’t have a fraction of the amount of nutritional info that it has now.

Why did we eat half a tin in 1971 and a whole tin now? Maybe the cost of food. Maybe, actually plenty of people back then had a whole tin, and plenty of people now still have a half tin.

I think that the issue (gut feel, no data, sorry!) is more calories per size of portion. Look at that new Colin Caterpillar cake in a jar... 750 calories, in one jar. Supposedly 2 portions, but it’s hardly like a tin of soup or tray of curry that can be portioned out easily.

And fizzy drinks. Only at parties in the 70s, for me. Now - just the regular thing I grab from the fridge every day. Until I switched to sugar free I was drinking so many calories (personal responsibility- it’s right there on the label).

Slippy78 · 03/06/2021 21:56

@AntiWorkBrigade

My favourite example of this is chilled pizzas that have a single serving size of 1/3 of the thing. Imagine cutting that up with a pizza wheel.
Cut it into 6 and have 2 slices each?
WiddlinDiddlin · 03/06/2021 21:57

Portion sizes on many foods are not remotely to do with what a portion size actually IS...

There are government guidelines on what a portion is of certain foods, hence a various previous single serving chocolate bars are now listed as being 2 portions (the alternative ploy being to make the product itself smaller which has been done for some time for various reasons and consumers are getting pissed off with it).

Sometimes it is done as a way to get a lower calorie per portion label on the back or so the traffic light system looks better.

None of this means that the portion size it says on the back of the packet is actually a suitable portion size for any particular person because that will be determined by how big they are, muscley they are, fit they are, how much energy they are expending etc etc.

I don't really think portion sizes are the issue, I think the ease of access to cheap hidden sugars and fats and empty calories is a much bigger problem!

osbertthesyrianhamster · 03/06/2021 21:58

Life's not fair, it's definitely not fair for all adults to be penalised and policed like toddlers because some don't have self-control.

midsomermurderess · 03/06/2021 22:02

I'm a teeny tiny. Makes a little change from the monster greedy husbands and the strapping 6'4'' teenagers.

Alcemeg · 03/06/2021 22:04

My mum's never been a great cook and I sometimes think back to the meals we used to have. A family of five, which included me and two teenage boys. A packet of fish fingers was a family meal. Nowadays I'd consider it a snack!

It might be true what they say about calorie restriction and longevity. Neither of my parents has ever done any exercise, but they are both the 90-year age mark. Makes me wish I hadn't stuffed my face with whatever I could get my hands on since leaving home 😎

SelkieQualia · 03/06/2021 22:05

@osbertthesyrianhamster

Life's not fair, it's definitely not fair for all adults to be penalised and policed like toddlers because some don't have self-control.
Who said anything about policing and penalising? I just want to be able to make choices without being manipulated by big companies for their own profit. They would not spend all that money on researching and implementing psychological tricks if they didn't work.
FreekStar · 03/06/2021 22:06

I honestly don't think the calories in a tin of soup are high. The portion size is irrelevant. When I make homemade soup I eat a whole bowl full- probably at lest two tins equivalent.

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