To be really surprised at the amount of “naice” middle class people who apparantly do coke?

[Lemonwoe]

I see this on mumsnet often that coke use is rife in middle class circles. I’ve never been offered coke on a night out, or seen any of my friends do it: and none of them have ever mentioned doing it.

Aibu to be so naive not to realise it is so widespread

I live in an affluent rural town - only ever been offered it/seen people doing it once. Have heard from friends that loads of people round here do it but it seems to be the working class people.

I am also working class by the way, I wasn’t being funny

[quote NewPanDrawer]@catgirl1976

always banging on on Facebook about how you can’t put that crap in your body and so you know what’s in them etc etc. Vegan, body is a temple, save the world etc. Thinks nothing of snorting a few lines of come though.

I don't see the inconsistency, it's perfectly natural (although there's an interesting debate to be had there with the vegans).[/quote]

In my experience it’s usually really scummy types who do it.

What are really scummy types??

Coke is expensive so you need money to buy it, so doesn’t surprise me.

Oops massive typo fail earlier . I don’t know anyone who snorts that thankfully

I have never been offered it or done it.

@Mygardenisanightmare

I know friends who do it, I loathe the fact that they bang on about artisan bread and all that rubbish, organic this sustainable that and yet they are helping to fund one of the most despicable trades on earth.

Why do people always put 'naice' on here? Hate that silly word.

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@Surfschooling

In my experience it’s usually really scummy types who do it.

What are really scummy types??

Defo scum types

There are so many problems with the assumptions in this OP, reinforced by others on here subsequently, that I don't even know where the discussion is.

@Lemonwoe is your point that you hear from Mumsnet that lots of "naice" middle class people do lots of coke? This isn't from your experience or personal hearsay, and so after hearing it on MN, you want to know how prevalent and widespread this really is?

In which case I'd stop you right there. Mumsnet is a massively distorted sample set of posts. There's this assumption that all walks of life are here and you're getting a snapshot you can draw inference from. I think that's not the case - a fair few people fantasise , rehash views and life experiences as if they're first person and their own. there's a gold standard of one partner earning £100k + , big London bias (Stokey! Awesomestow! etc) and a general sense that my-middle-class-is-better-than-yours

That's why some people are scoffing at "naice" - it's a word that takes a slice out of the middle class but it still tells you nothing . Age, life circumstances and location are the biggest factors as to why you'd be taking coke. So you might get a bunch of people in hospitality who party hard after the event's done, and the coke comes out. But no one wants to hear this because the folk on here are searching for the bankers, doctors and senior civil servant coke stories as there's a fascination.

Also to the previous posters who keep saying "how can people take coke but also buy artisan bread"...

It's the same reason for all these things - some of it is projection of status, but a lot of it comes down to personal taste - which is made up of a jumble of ethics that get smashed together under the hammer of personal utility and selfishness.

There are folk on here who will swear blind they're ethical, environmental etc. But it's when it suits them. When they feel comfortable in the action.It's rarely holistic.

It's easy to buy organic or artisan. It's often though not always a signifier of having money, which is always popular here. And it often tastes good! Easy to make that purchase and do your bit.

It's harder to sacrifice something though. Harder to forgo those two or three flights a year pre-COVID, because - we deserve our holidays! Harder to forgo the fuel-consuming Discovery , because - we need our kids to be safe!

By that rationale it's easy to see how someone can completely forget the integrated ethics of a thing when "me" is the loudest voice. "I work hard.. I deserve to let go. I deserve my treat". Etc.

Don’t take it but people think me and my friends do as we can drink a fair amount. The wide eyed, gnawing jawed prat’s on it are shocked when we tell them to bore off.
See it in the pubs around here. Whose idea of fun is to snort a line at your local? Just don’t get it.

*prats. AC fail

Have you never heard the saying coke is God's way of telling you you're over paid.I've heard of it being used by sales reps in a couple of companies.

It’s fairly normal in some of the circles I know but equally those people wouldn’t be telling their friends who they know are very against it

@ConfusedAdultFemale

Anyone can brag about what they do and don’t do on the internet, I’d take absolutely everything you read on here with a massive pinch of salt. Cocaine is as rife on here as pigs are on the moon. Everyone wants to be seen to be idiots “cool”

I think more want to be identified as a certain type of middle class.

@Lemonwoe. It could be you don't know because they're being discreet as you don't use it. My DW is completely anti-drugs of any kind, so I know when we go out that some people are nipping off to do it but she's oblivious because they're more careful round her and she's oblivious to the signs...

But yes, I do know middle aged people still occasionally doing things they shouldn't really - I suppose they're MC, son't know about 'naice' tho...

Lots do coke.
Not just middle class. My neighbour doesn't work she does it. Non of my business she talks absolute bollix when she does I know that. Much like a piss head or stoner. A drugs a drug..

It is most certainly not rife in nice middle class circles.

Maybe amongst nouveau riche people, but ordinary people are not snorting coke.

My DH is a barrister. I work for a bank. Neither of us have ever done any illegal drugs. Ever. It’s so unethical and immoral. Our friends are journalists, MPs, charity directors, deputy head teachers - none of them do drugs either.

Before we had DS and Covid came along we’d do parties and dinners with friends very regularly. Plenty of booze, no drugs. If anyone brought drugs in to my home I’d throw them out, and I know my friends well enough to know they’re not snorting coke in the loo.

It is not a normal, regular thing, and people who say it is are just trying to assauge their guilty consciences.

When I was young in the early nineties my friend worked as a model and she knew a lot of people that worked in the media and city bankers. At those parties there was certainly a lot of drugs taken and I openly saw coke being snorted, I didn’t and neither did she. But it was a long time ago and the age group was almost all twenties with maybe a few people in their early thirties.

The only other group of adults I know of that took a lot of drugs and again this was nineties was someone who I knew who worked on a super yacht. She relayed a few crew tales and is a relative of my husbands. They partied really hard apparently. I watched that Netflix series about staff on a super yacht, she reckoned it was pretty tame.

@VestaTilley

It is most certainly not rife in nice middle class circles.

Maybe amongst nouveau riche people, but ordinary people are not snorting coke.

My DH is a barrister. I work for a bank. Neither of us have ever done any illegal drugs. Ever. It’s so unethical and immoral. Our friends are journalists, MPs, charity directors, deputy head teachers - none of them do drugs either.

Before we had DS and Covid came along we’d do parties and dinners with friends very regularly. Plenty of booze, no drugs. If anyone brought drugs in to my home I’d throw them out, and I know my friends well enough to know they’re not snorting coke in the loo.

It is not a normal, regular thing, and people who say it is are just trying to assauge their guilty consciences.

How do you know "ordinary" people aren't snorting coke? From your subset of two dozen people you know, you draw this general inference for society?

What's all this "nouveau riche" stuff as well? It's a phrase often used by folk who don't know what's going on, aren't wealthy or part of the chattering classes, but want to put clear distance between their average middle classdom, and those with quick money.

But let me share another viewpoint. I attended a globally-cited-as-top educational institution in the UK. I knew people with ancestral homes, plenty of "breeding" (ugh). They did coke! If you knew about Piers Gaviston and had been to them, you'd have seen coke. Upper class people are also capable of consuming cocaine - I'm sorry to break it to all.

But let's get back to your post. What's your age bracket? Do you have DCs? Does that perhaps play a factor?

Btw loving the roll call of society figures, reads like a list of professionals eligible to create certified document copies. Only deputy headteachers though? Come, come.

Very common in my circle of friends. All middle class mums and dads with good jobs. I never do it but everyone else apart from one friend does.

I love how on a thread about drugs someone will still manage to find a way to shoehorn in their hatred of tattoos. Never change, MN.

I'm a middle-class Londoner. Yes, it is extremely common and has been all my adult life (back to the mid 90s).