To be really surprised at the amount of “naice” middle class people who apparantly do coke?

[Lemonwoe]

I see this on mumsnet often that coke use is rife in middle class circles. I’ve never been offered coke on a night out, or seen any of my friends do it: and none of them have ever mentioned doing it.

Aibu to be so naive not to realise it is so widespread

@araiwa

I don't know anyone who rides horses..

But I'm sure many people do

And if I rode horses I'd probably know many others who do

In that case....

I don't socialise with anyone who does Coke ☺️

I'm in the SE and yes, it's so horribly common. It's actually seen as a posh cool drug. So the minimum wage workers smoke weed and are looked down on, but the posh folk think they're posh do coke. It's horrible.

In my job we are randomly Drug and Alcohol tested frequently.

D&A Enforcement Officers are frequent callers.

It's certainly not worth risking my career for. 🌸

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

Why do people always put 'naice' on here? Hate that silly word.

Because it's clear, brief and widely understood - it has a specific meaning on here that there isn't another easy/quick way to convey. Why obfuscate things when you can communicate in a way you know others will understand?

....and what is the specific meaning on here please??

What is the difference between 'naice' and 'middle-class'. Can we get a definition of naice, since it's used so widely on mumsnet? I'm genuinely curious.

I was surprised to be offered coke at a Mum from school's 50th birthday party a few years ago. I knew she and her husband and a couple of her close friends dabbled, but wasn't expecting it to be on offer at a fairly ordinary house party. I think I laughed. It certainly struck me as utterly pathetic.

@ThatSchoolOfficeLady

What is the difference between 'naice' and 'middle-class'. Can we get a definition of naice, since it's used so widely on mumsnet? I'm genuinely curious.

Wonder if it’s a class thing. Middle class, these days, covers a huge swathe of society. I am technically middle-class, but both my parents were born into working class families and moved up, as it were.

So technically I am middle/professional class, but I really don’t fit in with more traditional upper-middle class people, who generally seem very posh to me. I’m trying to break into a different line of work at the moment, media related as opposed to my current traditional profession. Most of the people in my (potential) new line of work seem alien to me. Doubtless they’d consider themselves middle class too, but their backgrounds and attitudes are a million miles away from mine.

So perhaps OP is meaning “naice” to mean those rather racy, upper middle class people that I find it so hard to relate to?

Its rife amongst certain groups at work. I havent touched it in 16 years and it was never my drug of choice. Ive had good coke and not so great coke but either way I find it's over rated.

So blasé about drugs!
If you work in HC you may have come across some terrible outcomes due to drug taking. I never got get the young 30something man who had a brainstem type stroke and was a vegeatable after taking hard drugs. Ruined life’s as he had slot going for him, middle class type. That’s enough to put me off.

*forget

I dabbled in my late teens and early 20s, when to be fair, I was a bit of an idiot ...20+ years on, I am what sounds like the target demographic now and I’d never participate. Firstly because I understand how horrific the drugs trade is (which I was ignorant of in my 20s) and secondly cos it turns you into a babbling fool. Actually, thirdly because, of course, it’s a drug, so you end up having to take more and more and more to hit the same high and goodness only knows what the coke is cut with....you are taking a risk every time you bung those chemicals up your nose.

I've taken it before and I know upper middle class people that do - I agree with PP's though that it is a horrible industry and funds violence and death. I wouldn't want to do it again.

In of the most middle class families I know (the mum is lovely), big house, responsible job, two dc at private school...the husband goes out on coke fuelled benders every weekend. (The husband is also lovely when he's not off his face) Maybe his wife knows, but he's been doing it for years and they're still together and appear happy 🤷🏼‍♀️

If you are so anti drug use then why on earth do you think anyone would offer you drugs? 🤷‍♀️

I don't think it's a question of where you live geographically. As others have said it's everywhere and more to do with your social circle. I took coke socially (a few times a year) on and off for years. I know people that still do.
However as others have said, morally I couldn't do it any more. It all seems fine/ normal being offered some on a Saturday night at someone's house but... I decided that it was hugely hypocritical me doing that on a Saturday night then reading the next day about a mother who had lost her son due to getting in with the wrong people ... it's inevitably drugs related but also the social impact in general. I have reflected on it more as my own DC have got older and now can't reconcile it but yes I think it's everywhere.

I’m considered upper middle class am in a profession and in central london. Mid 50s.
Early 90s cocaine and mdma were both pretty widely and openly used.
I have been offered it socially. Haven’t ever used it. Have close friend who went through period of heavy debilitating use. Frequently come across those who Re clearly using. Generally find them tedious tossers when using and not much better when not. I’m really judgmental about this but quietly, by having little to do with drug users where possible. Partly through self preservation as I do have an addictive personality and can imagine loving all sorts of stuff.

I know friends who do it, I loathe the fact that they bang on about artisan bread and all that rubbish, organic this sustainable that and yet they are helping to fund one of the most despicable trades on earth.
Yes!! The righteous vegan coke users are just the worst - hypocrites!

I have worked in a psychiatric hospital and in the probation service - both did a good job of putting me off drugs.

Never been offered it but used to do it in my 20s. No different to getting drunk, or at least I didnt think so back then, all my friends did it. We used to get it off another friend who knew a dealer. Now I'm old and wiser I wouldn't do it.

Naice is a word likely to be used by Hyacinth Bucket whilst hosting a Candlelit Supper. Hopefully, that's descriptive enough.

I used to live in London and yes middle class colleagues would do coke though just the odd dabble rather than a regular thing. It was a good long while ago mind and I imagine it is more widespread now. Presumably because it is easier to get hold of now. Plus quite cheap I hear.

Women often go to the bathroom in 2s & 3s, for a gossip/sort hair/reapply makeup

and then, having blocked all the sinks for ages, bitch on MN about women who don't wash their hands after using public loos...

...but I digress. I don't know anyone who takes illegal drugs, but then do people broadcast it? I wouldn't have a clue where to find them. It's not something you can exactly post in your local FB group is it - can anyone tell me a hairdresser who's working illegally in lockdown? Can anyone tell me where to get cannabis? Can anyone tell me where to get cocaine? I am very naive too and I guess it's good I have no idea how I would go about these things

As for "naice" what would you prefer? Affluent kind of works, but not quite the same meaning.

I think drug taking in any setting follows the rule of birds of a feather flocking together. I have never taken any recreational drug and so if we have had a party the setting is drug free. No one is going to go to a party and start openly doing drugs when no one else is (unless they are a total arsehole).

People will lie. In a drug free situation they may say they dont do drugs but in a setting where drugs are being openly taken then they will happily take part.

I work in the south east in a v middle class area and it's common among a certain demographic: lots of money, trust fund types, boho lifestyle, anti vaxx, vegan (I'm generalising of course). I'm have a safeguarding role and neglect/domestic violence are issues as a result.

YANBU. I too was very naive about this, having lived in a quiet gentle village in the west country. I had a massive shock when I got a job in a London theatre. The ordinary workers like me had no part in it. But the management and department heads pretty much all snorted coke, as far as I could tell. They didn't especially hide it - they'd come out of meetings with white powder down their lapels! I didn't know what it was at first, and was shocked when it was explained to me. After a while I got used to it.
I agree too with other PPs that it's a terrible thing, and it confounded me that most of the partakers were at pains to advertise their organic fairtrade credentials, but then directly supported an industry rife with injustice and horror of every kind. Though maybe they did the former to make them feel less guilty about the latter? I guess most of us are inconsistent about something. Though I'd no more snort coke than I'd fly to the moon...