To be really surprised at the amount of “naice” middle class people who apparantly do coke?

[Lemonwoe]

I see this on mumsnet often that coke use is rife in middle class circles. I’ve never been offered coke on a night out, or seen any of my friends do it: and none of them have ever mentioned doing it.

Aibu to be so naive not to realise it is so widespread

[quote NewPanDrawer]@catgirl1976

always banging on on Facebook about how you can’t put that crap in your body and so you know what’s in them etc etc. Vegan, body is a temple, save the world etc. Thinks nothing of snorting a few lines of come though.

I don't see the inconsistency, it's perfectly natural (although there's an interesting debate to be had there with the vegans).[/quote]
Sorry are you saying coke is ‘natural’?!? 🤣🤣🤣

It’s the very definition of having blood on one’s hands.

Instant unfriend.

MrsHercules I think you missed the point there.

The only person I know of is the self proclaimed alpha mum at school. She likes to tell everyone else off if she doesn't deem their lifestyle to be green or environmentally friendly enough. Happy enough to shove fuck knows up her nose and tell people that it's her 'little bit of fun' with one of those tinkly laughs we read about on MN. I had no problem telling her what I thought of her.

@VestaTilley

It is most certainly not rife in nice middle class circles.

Maybe amongst nouveau riche people, but ordinary people are not snorting coke.

My DH is a barrister. I work for a bank. Neither of us have ever done any illegal drugs. Ever. It’s so unethical and immoral. Our friends are journalists, MPs, charity directors, deputy head teachers - none of them do drugs either.

Before we had DS and Covid came along we’d do parties and dinners with friends very regularly. Plenty of booze, no drugs. If anyone brought drugs in to my home I’d throw them out, and I know my friends well enough to know they’re not snorting coke in the loo.

It is not a normal, regular thing, and people who say it is are just trying to assauge their guilty consciences.

This does sound ridiculously snooty

You might not approve, but it does cross class barriers I'm afraid.

I’m privileged and it’s pretty out there in my world. Proper respectable grown-ups, too. On the board of governors at the school and such. Very depressing. I’ve never met an interesting cokehead, dull dull dull.

If anyone brought drugs in to my home I’d throw them out, and I know my friends well enough to know they’re not snorting coke in the loo.

PS I would place a huge question mark over this. I'm a drug user, so I'm aware of it, and not judgemental. Completely out of the blue I discovered that someone I'd known for many years, and who I would have said would not so much as puff a joint, had a serious crystal meth habit. It's very hard to know and people hide it well, especially from people who will disapprove.

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@Ginuwine I’m 35, lived in London since I was 24, my DH went to Oxford and I have a two year old.

We have a far wider social circle than two dozen people

I absolutely judge people who do drugs, I would not remain friends with drug users. If they had children I would report them, and I do look down my nose at people who do it. And they may have money, but they certainly don’t have class. (And yes I’m aware taking drugs cuts across class divisions!)

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

Why do people always put 'naice' on here? Hate that silly word.

Because it's clear, brief and widely understood - it has a specific meaning on here that there isn't another easy/quick way to convey. Why obfuscate things when you can communicate in a way you know others will understand?

What is the meaning? I've never really been sure. What's the difference between naice and nice?

@Foxglovesandlilacs

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[quote VestaTilley]@Ginuwine I’m 35, lived in London since I was 24, my DH went to Oxford and I have a two year old.

We have a far wider social circle than two dozen people

I absolutely judge people who do drugs, I would not remain friends with drug users. If they had children I would report them, and I do look down my nose at people who do it. And they may have money, but they certainly don’t have class. (And yes I’m aware taking drugs cuts across class divisions!)[/quote]

I used to have a friend like you, she knew nothing about my dabbling days. Some people are more uptight about drugs so it's best to keep them out of the loop.

What is the meaning? I've never really been sure. What's the difference between naice and nice?

It's from a thread from years ago.

Wasn’t it the first ever shopping list thread - it said ‘nice ham’ 😀 wtf is nice ham, still wondering

I assume nice/naice ham is proper sliced ham, rather than, as explained by the Guardian, formed/reformed ham - yum, yum!

'Naice'. Such pronunciation of 'nice', along with other 'I' sounds is a mockery of the 'telephone voice' with its aspirations towards gentility as in 'Ai went to Sainsbury's and bought some naice ham for supper as opposed to 'I bought some Spam in the corner shop for dinner'. It's a very dated dig at working class 'aping the manners of its betters' and should really be left in the pre 1950 novels where it belongs. You will occasionally see it in old films where, for instance, a shop assistant, housekeeper, or a woman who has 'married up', employs this pronunciation to obliviously indicate to us that she is 'all fur coat and no knickers'. It's female. I dont recall ever seeing this as a male attribute. So, classism and misogyny encapsulated naicely.

@OrchidLass

What is the meaning? I've never really been sure. What's the difference between naice and nice?

It's from a thread from years ago.

I know, I see people use it. But what is the difference between nice and naice? The pp seemed to imply it has a distinct and easily understood meaning?

I've never seen it anywhere but MN and I've never heard it spoken. Was it originally just a typo?

@longwayoff

'Naice'. Such pronunciation of 'nice', along with other 'I' sounds is a mockery of the 'telephone voice' with its aspirations towards gentility as in 'Ai went to Sainsbury's and bought some naice ham for supper as opposed to 'I bought some Spam in the corner shop for dinner'. It's a very dated dig at working class 'aping the manners of its betters' and should really be left in the pre 1950 novels where it belongs. You will occasionally see it in old films where, for instance, a shop assistant, housekeeper, or a woman who has 'married up', employs this pronunciation to obliviously indicate to us that she is 'all fur coat and no knickers'. It's female. I dont recall ever seeing this as a male attribute. So, classism and misogyny encapsulated naicely.

Thank you, I think I get it now.

Class war aside, not naice ham is not naice.

I have never been tempted by drugs, although I have been around them plenty of times.

I used to work in the fashion industry - coke was regularly passed round at work parties in the loo's.
Lots of people won't admit they do coke, whilst some circles are more open.

A close relative of mine is a health professional - he knows doctors & senior health managers who take it every time they party. Some do it when they are just having a quiet night in.

Several people I know do drugs, I grew up working class but you would probably look at my life now and say I was middle class, and people across both classes do coke.

It is not for me, to he honest it just feels a bit scummy and I am very careful about what plans I make with friends who do drugs regularly