To be really surprised at the amount of “naice” middle class people who apparantly do coke?

[Lemonwoe]

I see this on mumsnet often that coke use is rife in middle class circles. I’ve never been offered coke on a night out, or seen any of my friends do it: and none of them have ever mentioned doing it.

Aibu to be so naive not to realise it is so widespread

Why is everyone getting their knickers in a twist about the word 'naice'? Are you all always this delicate?

I wouldn’t say it was common but it’s certainly not unusual. As for not knowing anyone, I had a work colleague who became a friend - we socialised regularly and became close. It was only about 3-4 years into the friendship that I discovered she used coke on a recreational basis. She told me that she hadn’t been open about it before because she didn’t know how I’d react. As it turned out, I was pretty indifferent, but it just shows you can know someone really well without knowing they use it.

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop I’m sure that I’d be crying my eyes out: if I could understand what the post meant lol. A wee typo I’m sure

I've only seen it among wannabe yummy mummy influencers. Even at children's birthday parties there's been a few of them slinking off to another room and coming back rubbing their noses. I always thought it was because of their shitty nose jobs or their allergies to air particles, dairy and calories but apparently not.

Was everywhere when we graduated in the early 90s, now seems to be abundant with people late 30s / early 40s (Manchester).

I dont think its a middle class thing. I think its just some circles and areas its really popular and others not so much

Funny how we see our own world views/experience as 'normal' - I laughed at you having never heard of MDMA... I don't take it, but I don't think I know anyone except my grandparents who don't know what it is or have at least heard of it. And I know at least one person in all my different social groups who takes coke - 'naice' mums I went to school with, colleagues, industry peers, high school friends, friends in my current city and cities I used to live in etc. No correlation with class or money or gender or location or type of job.

Don't get me wrong I know people who don't do it and never would, but they are at least aware it happens in their circles. I'm always mildly surprised when I hear of people who say they don't know anyone who takes it at all. But that's because it's so different to my own experience.

In my early 20s I had a group of friends that were big into drugs so any parties that I attended had lines of coke/ketamine/mephedrone getting passed around. I've never once tried any as it didn't interest me in the slightest. Some of these people were considered middle class, some weren't.

Now that I'm in my 30s and have drifted from these people and mostly socialise with other mums, I don't know anyone (as far as I'm aware) that does coke.

I have loads of middle class indicators. I don't do it. Been offered it now and then. Not interested. It's skanky in every sense to me.

yep have known lots of people do it and they are not middle class

ive done it a fare few times and enjoyed it,used to do it one night a week on a weekend at my then partners place,very addictive but i admit it i really enjoyed it but have used and known users for a long Time

@Chihuahuacat

I’ve never come across it (Manchester) but have heard it’s much more commonplace in London compared to the rest of the country (from friends that live in London)

You're joking aren't you. It's as common up north as down south.

I know many middle class parents who admit to smoking weed pre DCs and some occasionally after.
Either they aren't admitting other drugs to me or it's not anywhere near as common. I would say "I'm too old" but these are friends with young DCs, so I'm early 50s with a 9 year old but they have DCs the same age but are 10-20 years younger.
I would never knowingly feed people trafficking, the mafia, county lines etc etc so anyone using anything at that level is not my friend any more.

I recall a large kitchen supper with someone new trying very hard to fit in and be ‘cool’. They said something like, “Of course we all did Coke when we were younger, didn’t we?”. They are about the most uptight and try hard person imaginable, probably a head girl.
Rest of room fell silent and looked at each other. Awks in extremis. Nobody else had so much as tried marijuana in Amsterdam.

I think the extent to which ordinary people ‘do drugs’ is seriously over egged. Certainly outside of Shoreditch.

I think it's quite obvious when people are on cocaine - they are loud, think they're interesting and clever, talk about themselves and are really, really boring- I know with a few acquaintances and figured out they take it because of this. I went to a wedding pre-lockdown and was stuck with the only other single person there who was off her face on then stuff, I was so bored with her conversation I was actually yawning. I wouldn't ever take the stuff for fear of becoming like that.

My friends (professionals, middle class they would probably say!) that did it have all grown out of it.
Even the weed smokers have stopped now!
nobody can be bothered with the expense, the heart palpitations and the come downs anymore. A friend also lost a friend a few years ago whilst he was high, so that put things in perspective a bit, I think.

So unsure where all this drug taking is happening, but it isn’t around here.

Professional middle class Londoner with a lot of similar friends. No one that I know of does coke. A couple of people said they tried it once at university. Booze has always been the thing in my circles (less now we’re getting old).

I dont think coke use is as common as weed, but its not uncommon either. Its an expensive drug though and a status symbol. Having coke makes people hang around you and its seen as more luxurious and posher than other drugs. I guess thats why some circles love it.

I think theyre playing with fire though. Ive known it cause problems with quite a few people, both healthwise and with their relationships, and its easier for people to get problems with it if majority of their social circle and even colleagues are all doing it.

I’ve only ever tried cannabis myself. Drugs = meh and usually the sign of people to avoid!

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

I think it's quite obvious when people are on cocaine - they are loud, think they're interesting and clever, talk about themselves and are really, really boring- I know with a few acquaintances and figured out they take it because of this. I went to a wedding pre-lockdown and was stuck with the only other single person there who was off her face on then stuff, I was so bored with her conversation I was actually yawning. I wouldn't ever take the stuff for fear of becoming like that.

This ^

People who take recreational drugs think they're 'cool,' and that it makes them interesting and 'edgy.' It doesn't.

It makes them dull and boring and irksome.

Bit like people who have tattoos. For some reason they think it makes them edgy and cool and 'yoooneek.' Nope. Just makes you look like everyone else. People who DON'T have tattoos are the 'yoooneek' ones these days. Same with recreational drugs. I have a lot more respect for people who don't take them, than people who do. I think people who DO take them are nobheads.

A good strong Earl Grey is my drug of choice

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

I know a Yoga instructor who bangs on about vegan living who takes Coke.

I hate the stuff, people on Coke are sooooo BORING.

I know her too.

Latin American drug cartels make ISIS look like Playschool presenters, but the same people who would never buy non-free-trade coffee or non-organic cotton are often happy to buy cocaine. I never understand the twisted ethics of it.

Haven’t read the thread but basically they just want to have fun and don’t give a shit if other people’s children get killed over it

Also they would probably rather move than have their children attend the same schools as the kids who’s lives are ruined supplying their fun. They also look down on those kids and their families when in reality they are lower than them.

Oh the coke bore......shoot me rather than let me go through an entire social event stuck next to one again!

Its actually quite useful from a professional POV if you run a pub. A has a few drinks and goes to the loo. A is suddenly the life and soul and anyone who joins in is using too, everyone else is rolling their eyes. A (and probably atleast one other) goes to the loo again. You follow them, catch them in the act and bin them off.

Or....my personal favourite.....spray all flat surfaces in a cubicle with WD40. Their expensive shite just sticks to it and honestly, you should see their faces! I was once told I owed someone money for their drugs when I did that :o

To be honest for PP who are saying users do it to be edgy or cool, that's not my experience-

Most people are doing it be able drink without being "drunk", unwind, have "fun", "chat", have some "fun sex" afterwards-

It has nothing to with image, or being cool - hence why if you're not a user, it's unlikely you will know about it.

It's still has stigma and shame associated with it, if you are to be found out by someone who doesn't do it.

The "don't pretend to be cool by doing drugs" is an outdated message, in the circles op is talking about, i doubt anyone is really doing cocaine to "be cool or unique" -

And as another PP said, those who have "grown out of it" got sick of the expense, the come downs (which from what I've seen can make people very teary and upset), and lack of sleep- I'm told it's all good fun until you actaully need to go to sleep and can't!