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To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

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Bassarid · 23/05/2021 06:01

Is it just me?

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00100001 · 23/05/2021 06:02

Out of what?

justanotherneighinparadise · 23/05/2021 06:08

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Wowjustwow99 · 23/05/2021 06:08

I don't understand, they left the royal family because of the lime light etc and all they are doing now is very revealing interviews

EdithWeston · 23/05/2021 06:09

It's not a competition.

They've stepped back from The Firm, and are doing something wholly different.

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/05/2021 06:15

What do you mean? The comment is very ambiguous.

Pixxie7 · 23/05/2021 06:25

I think on the whole people love the queen, other members of the royal family have acted with dignity where as Harry and Meghan have come across as entitled spoilt brats so yes.

Flashinggreen · 23/05/2021 06:27

I am concerned history is repeating itself. Harry being interviewed and giving away too much. I’ve had episodes of poor mental health and am open with most people about it but I feel he’s putting himself in a vulnerable position and being exploited.

The Royal Family are being their usual poised selves. William’s statement was very good.

AbsolutelyPatsy · 23/05/2021 06:29

Many people were very fond of Harry, but are losing that love now

Iggly · 23/05/2021 06:29

The royal family are an over privileged bunch of irrelevant people.

I hate all the automatic reverence of them, the vomit inducing worshipping etc etc. It’s embarrassing.

As for Harry and Megan - good for them. While I don’t really care for them, it’s good to shine a light on the nonsense and dysfunction.

Personally I don’t want a royal family. Let them keep their personal wealth but dismantle the structure from our state please

georgarina · 23/05/2021 06:32

Definitely IMO...when your main grievance is that they're not paying you anymore now you've decided to stop working it's a bit ridiculous.

Grumblesigh · 23/05/2021 06:38

They seem to be exactly where they want, doing what they want, having their dc, making lots of money, free to say what they like. They seem to have come out of itj ust grand.

Or did you imagine they also need your approval?

HeyGirlHeyBoy · 23/05/2021 06:46

From a non UK perspective, no, they're not coming out the worst. Prince Charles said similar (worse?) about his childhood, that seems to have been forgotten. And if I was Diana I'd be pretty annoyed with William's statement which appears to want to whitewash the whole, tawdry history of his mother and father. Diana shouldn't have been duped but she didn't lie, did she? I can understand his anger at Bashir, yes, but his take on it is a bit too much and seems to have an alterior motive.

tara66 · 23/05/2021 06:49

Harry has real anger issues which he cannot control and which his therapy has not resolves but maybe what he is saying and doing IS his therapy but I hope he is not paying too much for it!

Francescaisstressed · 23/05/2021 06:49

I'm not massively into the royal family, think Meghan was treated badly and like Prince Harry, but I would say they are going to struggle now.
Harry seems to be saying too much, as if he's hoping to win people round by giving more but it's working the opposite way.
The problem is they need to take a step back out of the limelight, just so people don't get sick of them but they can't because they need the money.
I don't think either party cane out if this well, but the royal family always bounces back.

WilyKitWilyKat · 23/05/2021 06:50

I don’t think anyone is really coming out of it well. It’s the very definition of washing your dirty linen in public.

3Britnee · 23/05/2021 06:54

They've been tone deaf to how they are perceived since the beginning. Far too full of their own importance.

Mandsy100 · 23/05/2021 06:55

If they were not royal, they would be classed as a toxic family. If only people can see that, they would be advising Harry to go NC with them.

JellyTumble · 23/05/2021 06:56

YANBU. They are absolutely humiliating themselves. They should be ashamed by their actions, but they won’t be.

I don’t see how the Royal Family have done anything wrong here. They’re victims of Harry’s mental health breakdown that Meghan is happy to capitalise and profit off.

HeyGirlHeyBoy · 23/05/2021 06:56

Maybe they don't care how they're perceived?
Fwiw sometimes therapy can be about recognising and expressing anger, anger is not a bad thing. I don't know enough about Harry tho to know if he has 'anger issues'.

HeyGirlHeyBoy · 23/05/2021 07:00

Well if it's true they asked for help and advice wrt Megan's mental state and were met with silence, yes, they've done something wrong. Obviously we can't know how true this is but it is possible. As is the idea of PC saying what he did re life/parenting ie suck it up. Obviously lots of people have had toxic parenting /hard upbringings but I suppose if the family who've done this are revered and on a pedestal, you might feel like speaking up.

Dalamalama · 23/05/2021 07:04

I completely agree with you. Considering they moved away to get out of the limelight they're doing their best to stay in it!

There probably isn't a single person who hasn't had a problem with their family at some point In their lives but not all of us go on and on and on about it and certainly not in public. I've always loved the British stiff upper lip, yes it's important that people are encouraged to speak out about mental health but Harry has taken it too far.
The royal family must be scared what he will say next. I hope they never let him back in.

I wish he would just shut up now.

legofootcasualty · 23/05/2021 07:07

I think it's hilarious how out of touch he is. Complaining how he was forced to go to Nepal. FFS get a real job and see how much you have to do things you don't like - and the salary you get in return.

AIMummy · 23/05/2021 07:07

If you mean according to the tabloid media than yes. Otherwise no imo.

Zzelda · 23/05/2021 07:18

He's living in an area of the US where psychiatry is a competitive industry, he's not the brightest, and unfortunately he's being exploited. I suspect he'll bitterly regret all this in a few years' time.

Comeinoutoftherain · 23/05/2021 07:20

I have been rather critical of H&M since their "Half in half out" statement, but right now I feel rather worried about them.

I think it's been the perfect storm of things happening to a couple who (it now seems) are far more vulnerable than they initially appeared.

Despite M's previous experience with being an actress, she doesn't seem robust enough to cope with being on public display, as being a working member of the royal family demands.

This is not a criticism, it would have had me crying in a very short space of time.

They got engaged and married very quickly, having mostly lived on different continents. M did not have the time to get used to the press intrusion and decide whether the life of a working royal was for her.

I don't think they really knew each other that well either, having barely lived together before they were engaged.

H had met Doria but not Thomas Markle. This is a rather large oversight given her clear affection for her father (see her father's day post in 2016), even for someone outside the royal family.

Within the royal family, it was a huge mistake for both H and the royal family not to have looked after M's immediate family and helped them to navigate the media attention.

Then they threw themselves into being working royals. From the OW interview, H makes it clear that there were more than a few suggestions that M did not become a working royal, so it's clear that they were not pressured into making her one.

Rather than just going off and having some time to themselves (to actually get to know each other properly) they thrust themselves into the limelight.

They both cope very badly with any negative commentary in the press. It's clear from the OW interview that H&M are much more aware of the press articles than they like to admit to. They do not like the "never complain, never explain" mantra, and want every negative article corrected.

M found the confines of royal life a strain (I would too). She wanted to be able to have her own opinions and not be told what to do or what to say.

That is fine in theory, but the royal family pay heavily for talented PR people whose job it is to maintain very good impressions of the royal family.

H&M might not like being told that certain topics should not be discussed, or having speeches heavily edited, but if you look at the image of H before his marriage and his image now, I think the PR people were probably well worth their salaries.

They decided being a working royal was not for them (which is completely fine, and probably a wise decision) but announced it before working through the details.

So they have been left having to pick up a hefty security bill, and having taken on a huge and expensive house, with staff, without a sufficient guaranteed income to cover it.

They don't appear to be listening to the PR firm, and H in particular appears to be unravelling on camera for the world to see.

The fact that H&M seemed unable to reach out to M's Obstetrician, a GP, or Harry's own therapist, when M was suicidal, makes it look as though H was already struggling to cope.

H had many avenues to get M some mental health treatment, and he did not do so. M was suicidal, so it's understandable that she did not know where to start, but he was seeing a therapist at least once a week. He could easily have mentioned it.

It feels like they are being exploited by those around them, and it doesn't appear to be doing either of them any good.

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