To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

[Bassarid]

Is it just me?

Money, power, fame, love who knows what she's in it for, but what she's actually ended up with is a shit show.

The entire internet is saying it.?????
I think not.

I have not seen it anywhere, so that's a ridiculous statement.

I can't believe this is a forum for Mums saying stuff like this about a woman about to give birth. Just shocking.

I read that when Meghan was feeling suicidal she told Harry she didn't do it for him because she couldn't have him loose another women in his life. Surely that can only be taken as extremely manipulative? She knew about his triggers and what happened to his mum, by saying that she must have known that would be the catalyst for the move.

@Roussette

dont ridicule me Rousette. i know it is one of your ways

I really didn't mean to ridicule you, I'm sorry if you felt that. It was unintentional. I just found saying she took her Prince and wanted everyone to bow to her in the US a bit much.

It isn't one of my ways. Having been trolled in the most vile way, (even yesterday) I am careful and don't want to upset anyone, so I am sorry.

thanks Roussette.

I must admit when I heard that, it did occur to me that it could have been manipulative, I think they might both be a bit manipulative tbh.

bluebell34567

And thank you for being understanding

I find Harry’s behaviour embarrassing. Really uncomfortable watching his therapy session and “woe is me” routine. Just shhhh and disappear if the attention is too much.

The royal family should stick to opening art galleries and visiting schools. I don’t want to know what they’re thinking etc.

Says someone who refers us to Twitter and Lipstick Alley as reliable sources.

I didn't say they were reliable sources. Someone claimed nobody except me had ever discussed Meghan's uncle being at the wedding. I pointed out that wasn't true, plenty of people online have discussed it.

Stop twisting my words.

@Roussette

The entire internet is saying it.????? I think not.

I have not seen it anywhere, so that's a ridiculous statement.

I can't believe this is a forum for Mums saying stuff like this about a woman about to give birth. Just shocking.

So would it be OK to say it if she were not 'about to give birth'?

And are you also 'shocked' by the people here calling other members of Harry's family 'toxic' and even 'abusive'?

Or is that OK because they're presumably not about to sprog?

Mumsnet labels everyone a narcissist on the flimsiest of evidence. Either that or autistic. Unless they are over 50 in which case it is early stage dementia. It is just speculative gossipy nonsens.

@ajandjjmum

Just a personal comment - my opinion only - I have never seen Meghan speak without feeling that she is putting on a performance. Started at the engagement interview.

agree.

To be frank (hello Frank!) If Harry had Meghan's best interests at heart he would not have agreed to stir the pot while she his carrying his child.

Surely the pair of them could predict that whatever they say it's going to attract attention and some of that will be negative.

Are you posting links tomorrow?

I haven't watched all of the latest See Me whatsit, but I've seen excerpts. I agree with @RoseDelatour that it is really uncomfortable viewing.
That piece about Meghan crying at night before the Oprah interview was aired (apparently because of the Palace/media "smears") and it was awful. I mean, he shouldn't be sharing that (even if Meghan was cool with it). That sort of stuff is for behind closed doors.
It feels voyeuristic to hear (if that's even possible) and as if we've been eavesdropping.

@HeadNorth

Mumsnet labels everyone a narcissist on the flimsiest of evidence. Either that or autistic. Unless they are over 50 in which case it is early stage dementia. It is just speculative gossipy nonsens.

This is spot on. Except you only have to be in your 40s for dementia to be suggested.

@Rinoachicken

I just wish, really wish, they had waited even ONE more year before getting engaged. It would have given them more time to get to know each other, more time, more time for her and the RF to get to know each other, more tome for her to get used to the UK, more time for her learn what would be involved and to decide if it was the life she really wanted.

There was a reason William made Kate wait ten YEARS, and it wasn’t just because he wanted the option to ‘explore elsewhere’. It was because he saw first hand how totally unprepared his mother was and wanted to try and make sure Kate was very much prepared and eyes wide open before saying ‘yes’.

H&M just got swept along in the love and romance of it all, rushed down the aisle and didn’t allow either of them the time they really needed to lay and ensure the solid foundations a relationship/marriage in the public eye would require.

Yes. I said this on a previous thread. I think things could have been different if they hadn't have rushed into things. MM could have been more prepared and have seen first hand what the press were like, what she was getting into and I guess realised that the RF weren't going to protect her in the way she wanted. I think H was the driving force for the speed though as he didn't want to loose her, he didn't want her to see the reality as she might have walked away.

Amused, you said earlier something like "and after all the slack the UK public gave Harry after Diana died"

I can't copy the exact words but it's not up to us to allow him any slack, this isn't the true man show, we don't own him!

@amusedtodeath1

To be frank (hello Frank!) If Harry had Meghan's best interests at heart he would not have agreed to stir the pot while she his carrying his child.

Surely the pair of them could predict that whatever they say it's going to attract attention and some of that will be negative.

I agree!! Why oh why would they do the Oprah interview when she is pregnant?

"It was heartbreaking, I held her and she cried and she cried and she cried"

Did they really not foresee that 'Palace sources' might have a thing or two to say to shine a light on the other side of the coin?

They seem to live in a fantasy world

I meant good will, sympathy for him. We excused his mistakes because we felt sorry for him. I find it incredulous he can't feel like that for his own grandmother a month after her husband died.

Haven't previous gfriends of H's said that they wouldn't have wanted a life within the RF?

Perhaps they were just being polite?

He certainly has been wound up left running!

Mumsnet labels everyone a narcissist on the flimsiest of evidence. Either that or autistic. Unless they are over 50 in which case it is early stage dementia

About "manipulation" though - surely suicidal intent only counts if it's not true?
Otherwise I'd say it's sharing something which any caring spouse needs to know (though it doesn't follow that they need to tell the entire world and weaponise it)

He gets to live in sunny California tho.

Who’s the fool eh him or the tabloid editors staying up late to write more crap about him.

..... We excused his mistakes

Wow.

He owes "us", zilch.

Roussette if you did a google search on Meghan Markle and narcissicism, you would see that this is indeed very widely discussed on the internet (1.2m results). Obviously that does not mean it is the truth, but it is definitely a topic of discussion in many many places, not just Mumsnet.