To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

[Bassarid]

Is it just me?

@HeyGirlHeyBoy

From a non UK perspective, no, they're not coming out the worst. Prince Charles said similar (worse?) about his childhood, that seems to have been forgotten. And if I was Diana I'd be pretty annoyed with William's statement which appears to want to whitewash the whole, tawdry history of his mother and father. Diana shouldn't have been duped but she didn't lie, did she? I can understand his anger at Bashir, yes, but his take on it is a bit too much and seems to have an alterior motive.

I agree, the whole ‘false narrative’ concept suggests what Diana said wasn’t true, which is incredibly dishonest to her memory.

The way the interview was arranged was deceitful and Bashir was totally wrong for that but it doesn’t follow that the answers that Diana gave were also false, what she actually said was still up to her.

Agree op and I think it’s very clear what you mean and a few folk are being deliberately obtuse.

They are getting slammed on both sides of the pond, or Harry is. The royal families silence gives no one any ammunition. So the focus remains on Harry.

Becayse Harry and meghans “truth” has been proven to be, shall we say, “questionable”, and because many people find these attacks distasteful, they are becoming more and more controversial.

In addition they demand privacy, whilst arguing that doesn’t mean they can’t trash talk their family when they wish to Oprah for money, and at the same time giving no shits about their families right to privacy, isn’t very admirable..

As PP have said, they supposed wanted to escape the limelight, yet here they are, putting themselves in it the whole time.

I don't particularly follow the royals, but there's no escaping the pair of them whinging on.

@Pixxie7

I think on the whole people love the queen, other members of the royal family have acted with dignity where as Harry and Meghan have come across as entitled spoilt brats so yes.

I agree with this. H&M sound like entitled little brats, want to do something else yet keep all the frills of royalty. I am sick of the wingeing and whining - as parents we try to do the best we can, e don't kowtow but I think that's what they've wanted and now are squinneying they've been somehow let down by everyone else - ridiculous behaviours Meghan dumped her own family, and now his, there's a trend going on here .... I feel for Harry when she tosses him aside as to what he'll do then

@tara66

Harry has real anger issues which he cannot control and which his therapy has not resolves but maybe what he is saying and doing IS his therapy but I hope he is not paying too much for it!

I’m with you there. I do wonder if the sort of therapy he’s now receiving is the sort of therapy Meghan has received in the past. Hence scorched Earth.

If he has been encouraged to speak out in such a way, ultimately it is very damaging to a person’s own mental health let alone the people he is deriding and forcibly sets you adrift from your roots. Acting in this way should be avoided unless strictly necessary. As an outsider looking in, despite the faults of the RF, I don’t think it is. The family clearly love Harry very much.

I think so, simply because the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are saying more.

For me, attempting to heal yourself by blaming others never works.

Of course others have played a part in Harry's current MH, but true healing understands and uses compassion to heal.

Blaming and pointing fingers simply fuels angst and unhappiness.

I think Harry is being badly advised by Meghan

I don’t think Harry has anger issues but I don’t think that he is coming out of it looking good. Reactions tend to be negative.

@Comeinoutoftherain
A very well-balanced post and I agree with it all. H appears to have adopted the centre-stage position (while M is getting near her due date?) and is very much a loose cannon at the moment. It doesn't sound as though all his therapy has resolved anything and continually picking at the scab seems to be making him quite fragile. If he was a member of my family, I would be very concerned for him.

after watching Diane her story on netflix, i concluded she had mental health issues, so no doubt harry does too, unsurprisingly, what works best? stiff upper lip, or let it all out?

Actually I think Harry is just being vindictive because he is angry and resentful. Remember he never ever intended to stop being a working royal.

They left for Canada and wrote that daft letter about how they were going to earn their own money and collaborate with the queen and be this new hybrid of working royals shaping the monarchy, splitting their time between here and the us….,..then they got slapped down by the royal family, most likely Charles, and lost their titles, their met office protections, all their patronage’s and were told you’re either in or out, you can’t monetise your position like that.

So now they are out and he’s angry and resentful. It was never ever what he intended. The fact what they intended was never ever going to fly is irrelevant, they thought it would, they didn’t get what they wanted, and he’s angry bitter and resentful about it, so giving his family a thorough kicking becayse he thinks that’s why they did to him.

@Iggly

The royal family are an over privileged bunch of irrelevant people.

I hate all the automatic reverence of them, the vomit inducing worshipping etc etc. It’s embarrassing.

As for Harry and Megan - good for them. While I don’t really care for them, it’s good to shine a light on the nonsense and dysfunction.

Personally I don’t want a royal family. Let them keep their personal wealth but dismantle the structure from our state please

I agree, they are extremely out of touch with modern UK issues, and I think the worst is yet to come from Harry, good on him for speaking up.

Has MM actually said anything before or after to the press since the one off OW interview - or is it just PH giving repeated interviews because it seems that the initial narrative about issues THEY had with RF has moved on to be solely about PH and his MH / upbringing which has nothing to do with MM.

who says it was Charles that slapped down their plans?

i worry for the future of the monarchy with charles about to take the throne and harry spouting off - what are they playing at?

from ow i got the impression that megan did not like or expect the role of being married to the Spare

I actually am not keen on Charles...but the man just lost his dad. And his son is tearing strips off him in the international media.
I never though much about Harry until all this but now I think of him as someone who is prob not a bad person, but not very bright and easily led.

They are absolutely humiliating themselves. They should be ashamed by their actions, but they won’t be.

That's quite extreme.

i agree, not very bright

I agree, they are extremely out of touch with modern UK issues, and I think the worst is yet to come from Harry, good on him for speaking up

Don’t be daft, he is not “speaking up” becayse he thinks in some way it helps the Uk or commonwealth. The bloke would have his titles, security and patronage’s back in a flash if he could whilst using it as a way to make big money. That’s what he wanted. To monetise his position and if they let him he’d be all over it like a dirty rash.

They’re victims of Harry’s mental health breakdown that Meghan is happy to capitalise and profit off.

Of course all Meghans fault 🤔

I thought only PH and William had given interviews post the BBC scandal? How is MM to blame when we’ve not heard from her?

I think the RF shot themselves in the foot by stripping titles away from H&M simply because they stepped away from a very toxic situation especially the military one that he actually earned as that limited their earning options. They should have found new roles for them abroad, yes I know it's not following tradition but you have to adapt to new challenges and look at the long game. It was very short sighted. I think they were advised very poorly.

Harry seems to not care about the rest of his family and their mental health. Note it's all him doing the speaking because he is the cash cow. He will have to constantly drip bits about his family to maintain interest in him as that is his USP.

@AIMummy

I think the RF shot themselves in the foot by stripping titles away from H&M simply because they stepped away from a very toxic situation especially the military one that he actually earned as that limited their earning options. They should have found new roles for them abroad, yes I know it's not following tradition but you have to adapt to new challenges and look at the long game. It was very short sighted. I think they were advised very poorly.

I don't think H&M gave them the time to do that. It was 'we want out now' and then they just went for it.

@AIMummy

I think the RF shot themselves in the foot by stripping titles away from H&M simply because they stepped away from a very toxic situation especially the military one that he actually earned as that limited their earning options. They should have found new roles for them abroad, yes I know it's not following tradition but you have to adapt to new challenges and look at the long game. It was very short sighted. I think they were advised very poorly.

The issue was they didn’t wish new roles abroad, they wanted to monetise their positions, use their titles to make money, that’s what they wrote basically in their statement, the royals don’t permit that. So it wasn’t the royals should habe given them new roles abroad, they didn’t want new roles abroad.