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To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

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Bassarid · 23/05/2021 06:01

Is it just me?

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Bluntness100 · 23/05/2021 08:28

To me Harry is coming across as a spoilt rich kid, pissed off that he didn’t get to do what he wanted so is throwing his toys out the pram

I think this is it, becayse we need to remember he had absolutely no desire to walk away from being royal. He wanted to keep his title. His patronage’s. His met office protection. He wanted to keep all the perks of being royal. And the palace took it off him. He didn’t give it up willingly. He even wrote a public statement saying he was basically keeping it and was going to earn his own money and be this new hybrid royal collaborating with the queen.

So he now looks like the spoilt arrogant rich kid who didn’t get his own way so is attacking his family for saying no to him.

Movisoul · 23/05/2021 08:28

So self-obsessed. Why are they telling the world about their "problems?" Why not just go and live their lives in privacy like they supposedly craved? And Harry has no idea about what a terrible childhood looks like. Can't stand their attention seeking.

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 23/05/2021 08:29

It's fairly clear that both H&M are incredibly sensitive and impulsive to such an extent that when William asked Harry if he was sure about the marriage, he went into a tailspin and using this as a reason to hold a grudge.

But Harry really needs a reality check - for a man of 36 years old complaining that his father cut him off financially is laughable.

SueSaid · 23/05/2021 08:30

'to me it looks like Harry is having a breakdown right in front of us. He needs help urgently'

Yes whatever help he is getting seems to be making things worse. You can't help but wonder when his high but currently very negagive profile will start to become draining or even damaging to brand Sussex. I dread to think how H would cope if he and his royal connection became not as necessary for corporate deals..

ncgy · 23/05/2021 08:30

@Griefmonster completely agree.

Blessex · 23/05/2021 08:31

I think OW must now be a bit worried about her part in all this. It is a train crash. Harry is in a very bad place and I just hope he gets out of it and OW doesn’t have something very nasty on her hands.

velvetcurtains · 23/05/2021 08:32

@Griefmonster

I have no interest in the royal family but have been sucked in to this story by the very public exposing of deeply dysfunctional family dynamics (of which I have experience).

Harry has real anger issues which he cannot control

I don't agree with the above statement at all. I see a man coming to terms with his childhood and generational trauma publicly. I find his words very clear and thoughtful and I think he presents his story in a very measured way.

I have also seen his words willfully misrepresented and I can only imagine that those refusing to engage with what he is saying either have their own agenda (maintain the status quo at all costs) or are blinded by their own family dysfunction. It seems shocking to them that he is "stepping out of line" . It's the same people who have sympathy for Meghan's father. When he couldn't be a more classic narcissist father if he scripted it. He's fucking text book.

I wish more people would get good therapy.

How they make their money and to what extent they court attention is a different issue to me.

I completely agree with you.
Boosterfeat · 23/05/2021 08:33

Tbh it wouldn’t surprise me if these pair will be doing a tell all on the other in a few years time, again on Oprah. If she hasn’t dumped them by then.

butterpuffed · 23/05/2021 08:33

@tara66

Harry has real anger issues which he cannot control and which his therapy has not resolves but maybe what he is saying and doing IS his therapy but I hope he is not paying too much for it!
I think he can afford it, he's not on benefits......yet Wink
Bluntness100 · 23/05/2021 08:34

You can't help but wonder when his high but currently very negagive profile will start to become draining or even damaging to brand Sussex

I think it’s already there. They are steeped in controversy now. It’s overwhelming ans over shadowing everything else.

SueSaid · 23/05/2021 08:34

'OW and MM have done an absolute number on Harry by monetizing his mental breakdown. I think he has lost it and should be put on suicide watch. As for MM, she is always hustling and scheming and it wouldn't surprise me if she used this documentary as evidence in a future divorce.'

Yes it is all so very predictable isn't it. Let's hope we are wrong and he lives happily ever after in California, without the daily oversharing mudslinging stunts perhaps.

SueSaid · 23/05/2021 08:35

'Tbh it wouldn’t surprise me if these pair will be doing a tell all on the other in a few years time, again on Oprah. If she hasn’t dumped them by then'

Yes it is all very grim and desperate.

Whanganui · 23/05/2021 08:36

I'm sure Meg's devastated that Jerry Springer's no longer on air.

16purplecolour16 · 23/05/2021 08:37

@Blessex - agree OW’s credibility is being damaged by her part in this seeming exploitation of a vulnerable individual.

Gucci1961 · 23/05/2021 08:38

@Boosterfeat

Tbh it wouldn’t surprise me if these pair will be doing a tell all on the other in a few years time, again on Oprah. If she hasn’t dumped them by then.
Oh my God, yes, I can see this.
Gucci1961 · 23/05/2021 08:39

[quote 16purplecolour16]@Blessex - agree OW’s credibility is being damaged by her part in this seeming exploitation of a vulnerable individual.[/quote]
I saw OW interview octomom (nadya suleman) and have felt a disgust for OW ever since.

HeadNorth · 23/05/2021 08:40

I think the current fiasco has just shown how well H&M did to get the hell out of here. I wish them luck.

Whinge · 23/05/2021 08:42

@HeadNorth

I think the current fiasco has just shown how well H&M did to get the hell out of here. I wish them luck.
How so?
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Whitchurch · 23/05/2021 08:43

I predict OW being quoted as a manipulative influence on the couple in the future. Not quite a Bashir because I'm sure she hasn't committed fraud, but in giving them damaging publicity, gaining their confidence and airing footage that harmed their reputation and mental health.

greatweekend · 23/05/2021 08:43

@Gucci1961 oh I haven’t seen that. What happened?

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 23/05/2021 08:44

I actually think the media should decline any interviews form PH in the short term. I think he’s going through issues linked to losing his mother so suddenly and publicly. He’s clearly never dealt with his grief or anger as he’s been taught to hold it all in which is damaging.

What were are witnessing is a delayed reaction. His family and father need to fly out to America and they need to get him help and quietly thrash this out and help build him back up. You’ve got a couple who’ve both come from damaged backgrounds struggling. Just because they are rich doesn’t mean they are undeserving. Harry is very angry and needs help we can see this.

He’s currently thrashing around all over the place but if the media agree to not make this public even if he thinks that’s what he wants (he’ll regret it when his mental health recovers), I’m hoping the current Diana thing will make him and William see they need to be closer.

IamnotSethRogan · 23/05/2021 08:44

I think they're really popular in America form what I understand and that's where they now live. They've left our spiteful little island.

StoneofDestiny · 23/05/2021 08:45

The royal family are an over privileged bunch of irrelevant people.

I hate all the automatic reverence of them, the vomit inducing worshipping etc etc. It’s embarrassing

It's cringeworthy stuff from them all. They regularly parrot 'don't complain, never explain', yet they have all used the media to do just that when it suits them. Charles, Diana, Andrew, Anne, Harry and William have all given their view of things on TV. Before them even Philip and The Queen made a TV documentary about the whole family - only withdrawing it (banning it from been shown again) when it backfired on them.

William has just made a ridiculous speech on TV blaming Bashir for the end of his parents marriage and her 'paranoia'. Utter garbage and a rewriting of history. Over and over again we've been told Charles didn't want to marry Diana and the marriage was over before the honeymoon was even over! We've been told Diana developed mental health problems as a result of Charles' neglect of her and his affair with Camilla. Now all of a sudden we are told Bashir led to the deteriorating relationship! It's so clear the interview William gave was an attempt to rehabilitate Charles' reputation before he gets the throne.

It's obvious the royals are manipulating the population and the media!

AIMummy · 23/05/2021 08:46

I suspect he's receiving the type of counselling where you unpick all the wrongs against you, all the arguments you've ever had with your loved ones and it makes it feel very raw and like it's all happened again but all at the same time. This isn't very helpful on it's own. Really you also need help on how to deal with the past in order to make positive changes to your current thinking (something like CBT to deal with the here and now, move on from the past, repair relationships etc) and I'm not sure that's what he's receiving help with (or perhaps needs more focus on).

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