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Long novel post - AIBU to think he’s creepy/potentially abusive etc

165 replies

aibusugardaddy · 21/05/2021 17:24

Sorry that this will be so long ( TLDR; Too Long Didnt read will be at bottom) ...

I'm not a mum, i'm 22 ( nearly was going to be a mum last year but thats a different story...), I don't know any women between 40-50 RL to ask, preferring answers from this age range although anyone can answer yabu or yanbu..

So i've kinda got a sugar daddy, 51 ( free to have an opinion, but I don't need judgements on this, if you do judge, best to not answer or only answer if you can separate judgement from my question)

i've been seeing him for a year, not a well off sugar daddy, he’s bought me a cheap car though, don’t care much that’s he’s not well off since I only do SW on/off now+last year covid slow business...

Last year he said he's had trouble on dating sites after saying hes got 3 baby mums and 4 kids.... anyway he explained the situation regarding his babymums/kids to me...

His first baby mum was crazy and alocholic and it lasted five years, daughter warned up to him when she turned 18 but he only sees her once a year and only contacts occasionally because he doesn’t want to bother her much.

Second baby mum was alcoholic, left the twins with him and ran off, came back eventually but with police, demanding the kids come live with her...he said as law favours kids being with mum he didn’t have a chance...

Third baby mum..... wasn’t a alcoholic but one day he woke up and she was gone with their daughter, doesn’t know where they are to this day.

The third baby mum story raised my suspicions of something seeming off ....

Eventually ( this year)... he told me all his baby mums were 16/17 when he met them while he was between 24-38..... this was when I thought “ creep“
...after this he was a with a girl for 10 years he was 40 she was 20 but she was sexually assaulted when younger so she’s bipolar and suffered panic attacks constantly for the 10 years....then he had a one night stand with a 20 year old who was drunk, then he met me.

As I said I don’t know women RL who are between 40-50 to ask, but I do know men that age RL to ask ( not sex work related btw but can’t do into details as how i know these guys).... to my surprise they don’t think he’s creepy or a peado or whatever, they think maybe because of 3 baby mum he’s shit at choosing partners and/or he’s not emotionally mature for his age/basically has a younger mindset....
and that if they were him they wouldn’t have gotten with girls that young because girls that age want to go out and not settle down....

I can’t shake that I think somethings not right with him at all......to me it sounds off and creepy....but things maybe were different 20-30 years ago? maybe it was normal for 20-30 year olds to date 16/17 year olds...and maybe i’m thinking too harshly, maybe he isn’t potentially abusive etc... maybe he has been unlucky? that’s why I prefer answers off women 40-50yos as he’s 51 and dated these teens 20-30 years ago

He’s tried to date me seriously but i’ve been straight and said I want to stick to the arrangement... he seems okay generally, only other thing he keeps saying he’s stopped looking on AW etc bc of me, but i’ve found out he’s tried to see escorts recently ( I don’t care, still lying though)

So...mumsnet aibu or not?

OP posts:
AccountCreateUsername · 21/05/2021 17:25

Where’s the tdlr?

HappyHappyHippocampus · 21/05/2021 17:27

Frankly, he sounds like a complete looser.

aibusugardaddy · 21/05/2021 17:27

TLDR; got a sugar daddy, he’s got no luck on dating sites, 3 baby mums four kids, two baby mums alcoholics, third baby mum he woke up one day and she was gone with kid, all baby mums 16-17 he was 24-38, two other vulnerable 20 year old partners after that and before meeting me, i think he’s potentially nasty/sounds off, asked men his age they just think he’s emotionally immature and unlucky but not a creep or abusive, aibu?

OP posts:
FindYourPorpoise · 21/05/2021 17:27

If you feel something is off with him and he's a creep then that's enough. You don't need anyone here to contradict or validate that. Trust your instincts.

Couldhavebeenme2 · 21/05/2021 17:29

TLDR: Run like fuck.

aibusugardaddy · 21/05/2021 17:30

added tldr as comment

OP posts:
Wearywithteens · 21/05/2021 17:31

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Badtasteflump · 21/05/2021 17:31

He is 100% a creep and his behaviour would not have been 'normal however many years ago. Walk away and give some serious thought to why you set the bar so low.

titchy · 21/05/2021 17:32

Christ alive enough red flags to host the next Communist party conference. He's a groomer. Don't believe a word of what he says and run run run.

Anonymous48 · 21/05/2021 17:35

The whole thing sounds sleazy and creepy. I'm in my late 40's. My husband is in his mid 50's. I just can't relate to any of this.

Brown76 · 21/05/2021 17:36

He’s not had a relationship with any women who aren’t very young and or vulnerable or he’s paying them to be with him, so I would find that very creepy and abusive. I also wouldn’t believe his story about what happened with the mothers to his children.

Miasicarisatia · 21/05/2021 17:37

the fact that he is in the role of 'sugar daddy' makes him inherently creepy

EdithSitwell · 21/05/2021 17:37

He’s a liar. The law wouldn’t favour an alcoholic mother who had abandoned her children.

Miasicarisatia · 21/05/2021 17:40

but I don't need judgements on this, if you do judge, best to not answer or only answer if you can separate judgement from my question
you want us to judge this situation that you are involved in, ie a man who sets out to expoit young girls, but you dont want us to judge the sugar daddy set up?
I'm confused, do you want us to accept that it's OK to be a sugar daddy as long as he's not one of the creepy ones?

ChaToilLeam · 21/05/2021 17:41

FFS. Ditch this creepy man. He’s revolting.

AnyFucker · 21/05/2021 17:43

Ugh

Anonymous48 · 21/05/2021 17:43

@Miasicarisatia

but I don't need judgements on this, if you do judge, best to not answer or only answer if you can separate judgement from my question you want us to judge this situation that you are involved in, ie a man who sets out to expoit young girls, but you dont want us to judge the sugar daddy set up? I'm confused, do you want us to accept that it's OK to be a sugar daddy as long as he's not one of the creepy ones?
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WorraLiberty · 21/05/2021 17:44

What do 'SW' and 'AW' mean?

I'm so confused and the overuse of the awfully degrading term 'baby mummy' isn't helping.

Miasicarisatia · 21/05/2021 17:44

@ChaToilLeam

FFS. Ditch this creepy man. He’s revolting.
if I'm reading the OP right she wants him to keep paying her for sexual favours, she is seeking validation from us more mature women that she is right not to agree to have a relationship with him? OP does this man actually use the phrase 'baby mums'?
RickiTarr · 21/05/2021 17:45

You’re basically in a sex for money arrangement, so TBH, you’re going to get creeps, and he certainly fits the bill.

Miasicarisatia · 21/05/2021 17:46

AW is a website where sex workers advertise (Adult Work)

RickiTarr · 21/05/2021 17:47

If you only do sex work part time and to top up COVID losses, what’s your main job?

WorraLiberty · 21/05/2021 17:49

@Miasicarisatia

AW is a website where sex workers advertise (Adult Work)
Ahh thank you 👍
merryhouse · 21/05/2021 17:49

Well, obviously he's a creep.

You're not going to meet any not-creeps through sex for money.

You're unlikely to get into a relationship with a not-creep while you're having sex for money.

It's a choice you have to make.

nimbuscloud · 21/05/2021 17:49

There’s always twins ...